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Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:45 pm
by PLAYER57832
Iz Man wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:At any rate, parents everywhere .... its OUR job to make sure the kids are really learning what they need to learn, to the best of our ability.
Holy crap, we agree on something! =D>
:lol: :lol:
(shh... I won't tell if you don't)

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:06 pm
by pimpdave
hecter wrote:I was never taught Roman Numerals in school, but I've known them for quite a long time. My parents and peers taught me how to read them. They aren't exactly a difficult concept to grasp... You can't expect school to teach your kids every little thing, there is some responsibility on the parents y'know.

That was my impression reading this thread.

Also, I learned roman numerals as child thanks to RISK... And 80s movies sequels, as was mentioned earlier.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:22 pm
by AAFitz
My friend's dad's license plate was IXIVIV

guess what he drove?

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:32 pm
by captainwalrus
We have too learn roman numerals in latin class and history. Mabey your 9th grader is just not paying attention in school.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:34 pm
by captainwalrus
AAFitz wrote:My friend's dad's license plate was IXIVIV

guess what he drove?
That isn't actual roman numerals.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:03 pm
by Genghis Khant
captainwalrus wrote:
AAFitz wrote:My friend's dad's license plate was IXIVIV

guess what he drove?
That isn't actual roman numerals.
I'm guessing a Porsche CMXLIV ;)

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:13 pm
by hecter
You guys can't do Roman Numerals like I can...
















Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:03 pm
by jonesthecurl
Genghis Khant wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
AAFitz wrote:My friend's dad's license plate was IXIVIV

guess what he drove?
That isn't actual roman numerals.
I'm guessing a Porsche CMXLIV ;)
I know roman numerals, but I know nothing about cars.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:08 pm
by Genghis Khant
jonesthecurl wrote:
Genghis Khant wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
AAFitz wrote:My friend's dad's license plate was IXIVIV

guess what he drove?
That isn't actual roman numerals.
I'm guessing a Porsche CMXLIV ;)
I know roman numerals, but I know nothing about cars.
Image
Porsche 944 Turbo

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:13 pm
by jonesthecurl
I assume that's a cool car.
I can barely find mrs curl's car in a crowd, and have to look for the "I sponsored an animal at the zoo" sticker to tell it from all the other similar-looking vehicles. Or try and remember the numberplate.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:15 am
by Juan_Bottom
jonesthecurl wrote:I know roman numerals, but I know nothing about cars.
I'm the opposite.
jonesthecurl wrote:I assume that's a cool car.
You'd be wrong....

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:17 am
by JACKAZZTJM
jay_a2j wrote:how to read roman numerals! Last night watching the Super Bowl she didn't know what XLIII was. This demonstrates the EPIC failure of public schooling! :evil:
NO NO it demonstrates that he doesnt give a shit about Roman numerals.....like myself and alot of other people

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:30 am
by jay_a2j
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: She knew I=1, V=5 and X=10 but didn't know what L, C or M was or how to read them.
In that case, my 8 year old does not know this already. (but he will soon! )

At any rate, parents everywhere .... its OUR job to make sure the kids are really learning what they need to learn, to the best of our ability.

So if your kid can't read his diploma it's YOUR fault? Everything is not the parents responsibility, if it were, can I get some of my school taxes back? :shock:

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:50 am
by pimpdave
jonesthecurl wrote: the "I sponsored an animal at the zoo" sticker
HAHA. That's awesome.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:01 am
by pimpdave
jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: She knew I=1, V=5 and X=10 but didn't know what L, C or M was or how to read them.
In that case, my 8 year old does not know this already. (but he will soon! )

At any rate, parents everywhere .... its OUR job to make sure the kids are really learning what they need to learn, to the best of our ability.

So if your kid can't read his diploma it's YOUR fault? Everything is not the parents responsibility, if it were, can I get some of my school taxes back? :shock:

I could read before starting kindergarten. My parents read to me and my siblings when we were really young. I'll always be impressed with my father for that. He'd often get home from work late, and even though we could often tell he was exhausted, he'd still always read us a story. Complete with voices and sound effects.

Plus, I have an older sister, and we've always been a bit competitive. So when she was reading at 6 and I was 4, well, I had to be just like her, and got to work.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:49 am
by comic boy
jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: She knew I=1, V=5 and X=10 but didn't know what L, C or M was or how to read them.
In that case, my 8 year old does not know this already. (but he will soon! )

At any rate, parents everywhere .... its OUR job to make sure the kids are really learning what they need to learn, to the best of our ability.

So if your kid can't read his diploma it's YOUR fault? Everything is not the parents responsibility, if it were, can I get some of my school taxes back? :shock:
So how often when she was younger did you read to your daughter, do you encourage her to read a wide variety of material to increase her general knowledge ?

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:33 pm
by jay_a2j
You guys are missing the point. The point is our public schools suck. And instead of addressing it we just sit back and say, "Well, it's the parents responsibility to make sure their kids learn." If the public school system isn't doing their job, GIVE ME a school voucher so I can send them someplace that DOES their job. This is a lot more reasonable than expecting every parent in the free world to be able to make up for the ineptitude of the public school system.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:39 pm
by jonesthecurl
I'm not sure, jay, that being ignorant of roman numerals is indicative of a failing in the school system.
I'm not saying the system is good (it seems passable in my locality, though I'd probably shift the emphasis somewhat - and I'd cetainly give them more intersting novels to read...has anybody else had Louis Lowry's The Giver inflicted upon them?), but to say it's not good you need other evidence. You might as well bemoan that they don't teach the kids classical greek any more.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:25 pm
by PLAYER57832
jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: She knew I=1, V=5 and X=10 but didn't know what L, C or M was or how to read them.
In that case, my 8 year old does not know this already. (but he will soon! )

At any rate, parents everywhere .... its OUR job to make sure the kids are really learning what they need to learn, to the best of our ability.

So if your kid can't read his diploma it's YOUR fault? Everything is not the parents responsibility, if it were, can I get some of my school taxes back? :shock:
NO, but it is my responsibility to check LONG before he is ever eligible for that diploma that he is progressing well enough. AND, to either get him the additional assistance he needs (if the failing is specific to him) OR, if the problem is more general to rally the communitee to stand before the principal, the school board and make sure that the system improves. This might include volunteering to tutor, volunteering directly in the school or any number of issues.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:42 pm
by Gypsys Kiss
When the film 'The Madness of King George' was made it was originally called 'The madness of King George III'. The distributors decided to change the title because they said American audiences wouldn't go and see it because they hadnt seen 'I' and 'II'.

I dont know if it is true, or what it says about the use of roman numerals, but I find amusing.

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:17 pm
by jonesthecurl
Gypsys Kiss wrote:When the film 'The Madness of King George' was made it was originally called 'The madness of King George III'. The distributors decided to change the title because they said American audiences wouldn't go and see it because they hadnt seen 'I' and 'II'.

I dont know if it is true, or what it says about the use of roman numerals, but I find amusing.
I'd heard that too. Certainly the title of Bennett's stage play was The Madness of King George III

Re: My 9th grader doesn't know......

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:25 pm
by PLAYER57832
jay_a2j wrote:You guys are missing the point. The point is our public schools suck. And instead of addressing it we just sit back and say, "Well, it's the parents responsibility to make sure their kids learn." If the public school system isn't doing their job, GIVE ME a school voucher so I can send them someplace that DOES their job. This is a lot more reasonable than expecting every parent in the free world to be able to make up for the ineptitude of the public school system.
No, it isn't. All you are doing then is trying to publically fund private schools.

If you don't like the public school system WORK FOR CHANGE. And .. I answered the rest earlier.

First, trying to say your child not knowing Roman numerals means the public schools suck is just dumb, for a lot of reasons (she might have forgotten them or ignored the lesson, it might have been dropped in favor of more important stuff legitimately. etc.) Second, even if it did show YOUR school sucked, the "public schools" don't universally "suck" SOME do ... and while some improved under Bush, many of the better ones now have strangleholds upon them, because Bush was all about rote learning and memorization ... like Texas and not free thinking and creativity.

(and please note I am very far from happy with my son's school... and part of my frustration is that I DO KNOW many much better public schools).