Khazalid/Racism [closed]

[Mr Changsha]

mr. c - do you see anyone in THOTA posting here? i didn't think so either

if you're not savvy enough to get it in context then its your problem - you can save the little diatribes on my intellect for when i say poll instead of pole

Now if I had written this..

snigger snigger, nudge nudge.

clench dat fist boi, rayz it to de sky. can i have an aaaaamen?

I'd apologise.

I mean partly because it isn't even funny, but mainly due to the fact that you are coming across like the kind of Scot my mother used to warn me about... you know can of tennants in one hand, a needle in the other, with your balls flapping about in the wind while on the hunt for a deep-fried mars bar from the fat health insurance risk of a girlfriend who works in the local chippie.

My, isn't prejudice absolutely hilarious!

[khazalid]

do you see me throwing a hissy fit and demanding action forthwith? quite apart from the fact that i am already on my second tennants of the day i see no other cause to do so. i'm not sure why balls would be flapping in the wind but i guess that's just the way your mind works.

as to the comment in question - whether you find it funny or not is irrelevant. it is clearly meant to send up owen and his militant streak which i'm sure you'd figure out pretty easily if you spent less time being a smarmy bastard and fantasizing about my hairy scottish balls. i just knew you wouldn't be able to resist showing up here.

[Snorri1234]

i'd make a gag about a lynch mob, but.. y'know.

[alster]

as to the comment in question - whether you find it funny or not is irrelevant. it is clearly meant to send up owen and his militant streak which i'm sure you'd figure out pretty easily if you spent less time being a smarmy bastard and fantasizing about my hairy scottish balls. i just knew you wouldn't be able to resist showing up here.

I think this pretty much sums it up. Due to Owen's past and current behavior (accusations, militant arrogance and general bs attitude), cracking a joke (no matter how harmless) is too funny to resist. Khaz is a stand-up guy, always has been and probably always will be. Owen is the problem here, not Khaz.

[owenshooter]

clicky Join the dots people, it would appear 'shooter has already been warned for frivolous complaints and spam on quasi-racism, and again their are only a few folks who agree with him and these are the people who always agree with him. Kaz may get a warning for casual racism but it's equally likely that 'shooter might get a warning for going on and on like a scratched record.

We wait with baited breath,
time to set a precedent K.A

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yep, the thread in which the bigotry guidelines were changed and the punishment for said abuses increased... you nailed me... and yeah, only a few people agreed with me in that thread, that is why the bigotry guidelines were changed for the entire site. if you read those PM's from OP and don't find them to be absolutely inappropriate for an admin of the site to send, there is something wrong with you. those pm's were ridiculous and after they were sent and other admins alerted to them, said admin left the thread never to return. again, that thread changed the bigotry guidelines. and if you don't think bigotry/racism is prevalent on CC, just look at this thread... you are all having a laugh, but it is disgusting humor that has no place on CC...-0

[azezzo]

I have a dream, that one day there will be no african americans, no irish americans, no fill in the blank americans.
so long as each group of people feels the need to be identified by their ethnic background, the human race will never be as one.

[finchboy]

clicky Join the dots people, it would appear 'shooter has already been warned for frivolous complaints and spam on quasi-racism, and again their are only a few folks who agree with him and these are the people who always agree with him. Kaz may get a warning for casual racism but it's equally likely that 'shooter might get a warning for going on and on like a scratched record.

We wait with baited breath,
time to set a precedent K.A

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yep, the thread in which the bigotry guidelines were changed and the punishment for said abuses increased... you nailed me... and yeah, only a few people agreed with me in that thread, that is why the bigotry guidelines were changed for the entire site. if you read those PM's from OP and don't find them to be absolutely inappropriate for an admin of the site to send, there is something wrong with you. those pm's were ridiculous and after they were sent and other admins alerted to them, said admin left the thread never to return. again, that thread changed the bigotry guidelines. and if you don't think bigotry/racism is prevalent on CC, just look at this thread... you are all having a laugh, but it is disgusting humor that has no place on CC...-0

Okay fair cop, I didn't read the post very carefully, but surely you cannot be comparing Kaz's comments designed to get your back up with acts of malicious racism. Further more, I don't think that bigotry and racism are prevalent on CC at all, sure isolated threads and users come up. eg. "how to spot a muslim poster"/ flytheunionjack et al, but these get smacked down quickly the mods, who are informed by users reporting posts. You'd have us believe that this community is inherently bad, with the occasional good egg, when in fact this community is full of reasonable users some of whom thinks it's funny to get you all wound up for an attempt at e-socialjustice 'shooter style. Step back and ask yourself if you really believe that this is racism rather than users committing greivious acts of 'shooterism with malice a forethought.

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[Snorri1234]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

Except he admits it is racist in his wall post and then makes an additional lynch mob comment... Nice try, that isn't going to resolve the accusation...-0

Bollocks Owen. Just as with your misinterpretation regarding pimpdave's "nshooter" thing, you are assuming racism out of some perceived sense of persecution. The initial comment was making fun of that particular attribute of yours, but it wasn't actually racist.

Snigger was used appropriately, khaz is not racist. Just like with pimpdave your paranoid way of seeing racism everywhere has made you look silly. To think words like "boi" and "snigger" are racist jabs at you instead of perfectly normal British words is absurd. This is exactly the reason why khaz is probably chuckling like mad at you, I think he's even excited that his post was met with so much more anger than he expected.

[khazalid]

you're right about the direction of the comment snorri but to be honest i'm a little miffed that owen has gotten so riled up about it. i certainly didn't expect it and i have to say the prospect wasn't exciting me either! character reference much appreciated though

[porkenbeans]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

Except he admits it is racist in his wall post and then makes an additional lynch mob comment... Nice try, that isn't going to resolve the accusation...-0

Bollocks Owen. Just as with your misinterpretation regarding pimpdave's "nshooter" thing, you are assuming racism out of some perceived sense of persecution. The initial comment was making fun of that particular attribute of yours, but it wasn't actually racist.

Snigger was used appropriately, khaz is not racist. Just like with pimpdave your paranoid way of seeing racism everywhere has made you look silly. To think words like "boi" and "snigger" are racist jabs at you instead of perfectly normal British words is absurd. This is exactly the reason why khaz is probably chuckling like mad at you, I think he's even excited that his post was met with so much more anger than he expected.

I think that maybe the reason why you guys do not understand, is because you are not from the USA. You do not own the same history as we do. Black people in our country have every right to feel the way that they do on this subject. For you to make light of their feelings, and poke fun while using certain words that obviously have double meanings, is insensitive at best, ...and racist at worst.

[lord voldemort]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

Except he admits it is racist in his wall post and then makes an additional lynch mob comment... Nice try, that isn't going to resolve the accusation...-0

Bollocks Owen. Just as with your misinterpretation regarding pimpdave's "nshooter" thing, you are assuming racism out of some perceived sense of persecution. The initial comment was making fun of that particular attribute of yours, but it wasn't actually racist.

Snigger was used appropriately, khaz is not racist. Just like with pimpdave your paranoid way of seeing racism everywhere has made you look silly. To think words like "boi" and "snigger" are racist jabs at you instead of perfectly normal British words is absurd. This is exactly the reason why khaz is probably chuckling like mad at you, I think he's even excited that his post was met with so much more anger than he expected.

I think that maybe the reason why you guys do not understand, is because you are not from the USA. You do not own the same history as we do. Black people in our country have every right to feel the way that they do on this subject. For you to make light of their feelings, and poke fun while using certain words that obviously have double meanings, is insensitive at best, ...and racist at worst.

agreeing that racism is bad, but to say that people dont understand because they dont live in the states is pretty wrong. racism is a global issue

[BoganGod]

Get over yourself Owen here I was thinking you had a sense of humor. - you have written worse. In fact in game chat you have suggested I have a crush on you, going by your twisted logic in this thread, that would be accusing me of been homosexual... This seems like a personal attack, wonder what the real motivation behind your accusation is.

Sorry everyone, am guilty again of feeding the troll.

[jefjef]

This is the British pronunciation and spelling of snicker.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snigger

Except he admits it is racist in his wall post and then makes an additional lynch mob comment... Nice try, that isn't going to resolve the accusation...-0

Bollocks Owen. Just as with your misinterpretation regarding pimpdave's "nshooter" thing, you are assuming racism out of some perceived sense of persecution. The initial comment was making fun of that particular attribute of yours, but it wasn't actually racist.

Snigger was used appropriately, khaz is not racist. Just like with pimpdave your paranoid way of seeing racism everywhere has made you look silly. To think words like "boi" and "snigger" are racist jabs at you instead of perfectly normal British words is absurd. This is exactly the reason why khaz is probably chuckling like mad at you, I think he's even excited that his post was met with so much more anger than he expected.

I think that maybe the reason why you guys do not understand, is because you are not from the USA. You do not own the same history as we do. Black people in our country have every right to feel the way that they do on this subject. For you to make light of their feelings, and poke fun while using certain words that obviously have double meanings, is insensitive at best, ...and racist at worst.

Do not use "not from the USA" while trying to support YOUR position. I and many many others are from the USA and do not agree with your injured view.

BTW. racism exists all over the world.

C'mon man... Get real.

[ParadiceCity9]

I have a dream, that one day there will be no african americans, no irish americans, no fill in the blank americans.
so long as each group of people feels the need to be identified by their ethnic background, the human race will never be as one.

This has yet to be recognized for its prodigious depth.

[porkenbeans]

You are not making any sense, jeff.
I am not just talking about racism, but slavery.
We have that history here in the USA, where as Sweden does not. They do NOT know first hand of its context.

[Gypsys Kiss]

You are not making any sense, jeff.
I am not just talking about racism, but slavery.
We have that history here in the USA, where as Sweden does not. They do NOT know first hand of its context.

Get over yourself. Slavery did not begin and end with the USA. Slavery existed long before the 'good ole US of A' was even thought of and it still exists now.

I was always being told to stop sniggering when I was at school, just because you dont like a word doesnt mean its racist. Also, I believe there were quite a few white people lynched in the States, therefore not necessarily a racist term.


Oh and slavery was legal in Sweden until 1813

[jefjef]

You are not making any sense, jeff.
I am not just talking about racism, but slavery.
We have that history here in the USA, where as Sweden does not. They do NOT know first hand of its context.

Yes the US had slavery. As well as the larger part of the world through out history. The Romans - The Germans - The Russians - The U.K. - biblical times - just to name a few.

What makes no sense porkbean is using that argument. Especially as an excuse to claim injury at every perceived slight and as a reason to start throwing FU's around.

Slavery in the USA was many GENERATIONS ago. It was a terrible period in history for sure. It was wrong. As wrong as using it as an argument to support whatever your true agenda is and using it as a bait and a reason to flame.

BTW: Are you aware of the existence of REVERSE racism?

Owen cracked a joke to me about blacks running faster than whites. I didn't raise the racism flag because of it. Nor will I. It was what it was. Mild racial humor.

Have a nice day.

CC is my master... Andy is my friend... CC is my master... etc.. etc... etc...

[porkenbeans]

You are not making any sense, jeff.
I am not just talking about racism, but slavery.
We have that history here in the USA, where as Sweden does not. They do NOT know first hand of its context.

Yes the US had slavery. As well as the larger part of the world through out history. The Romans - The Germans - The Russians - The U.K. - biblical times - just to name a few.

What makes no sense porkbean is using that argument. Especially as an excuse to claim injury at every perceived slight and as a reason to start throwing FU's around.

Slavery in the USA was many GENERATIONS ago. It was a terrible period in history for sure. It was wrong. As wrong as using it as an argument to support whatever your true agenda is and using it as a bait and a reason to flame.

BTW: Are you aware of the existence of REVERSE racism?

Owen cracked a joke to me about blacks running faster than whites. I didn't raise the racism flag because of it. Nor will I. It was what it was. Mild racial humor.

Have a nice day.

CC is my master... Andy is my friend... CC is my master... etc.. etc... etc...

What are you smoking, and can I have a hit ?
1.) I never threw around FUs' on this topic. I used it once in the fractured America thread. I was pissed off at the fact that Isaiah was Party bashing and trying to call dems commies and such, and that the Reps were owners of the Stars and Stripes.

2.)I believe that the term reversed racism is a misnomer. My understanding of the word "racism" is when a person or organization states that because ones race is inferior to another in one aspect or another, that they can there for, be discriminated against. Do blacks on average run faster than whites, -YES.
Therefor do they have the right to exclude whites from running? -NO.
On average, are whites better able to survive in cold climates ?, -YES.
should blacks be banned from living in Alaska ? NO.

Yes there are indeed differences between the races. All have there own unique advantages and disadvantages over one another. To acknowledge these facts can sometimes seem racist, These facts are NOT racist in themselves. It is when you try to exclude people because of their race, that you are being RACIST.

[jefjef]

You are not making any sense, jeff.
I am not just talking about racism, but slavery.
We have that history here in the USA, where as Sweden does not. They do NOT know first hand of its context.

Yes the US had slavery. As well as the larger part of the world through out history. The Romans - The Germans - The Russians - The U.K. - biblical times - just to name a few.

What makes no sense porkbean is using that argument. Especially as an excuse to claim injury at every perceived slight and as a reason to start throwing FU's around.

Slavery in the USA was many GENERATIONS ago. It was a terrible period in history for sure. It was wrong. As wrong as using it as an argument to support whatever your true agenda is and using it as a bait and a reason to flame.

BTW: Are you aware of the existence of REVERSE racism?

Owen cracked a joke to me about blacks running faster than whites. I didn't raise the racism flag because of it. Nor will I. It was what it was. Mild racial humor.

BTW: The joke I'm referring to was made in response to the fact that more white had been hung than blacks.

Have a nice day.

CC is my master... Andy is my friend... CC is my master... etc.. etc... etc...

What are you smoking, and can I have a hit ?
1.) I never threw around FUs' on this topic. I used it once in the fractured America thread. I was pissed off at the fact that Isaiah was Party bashing and trying to call dems commies and such, and that the Reps were owners of the Stars and Stripes.

2.)I believe that the term reversed racism is a misnomer. My understanding of the word "racism" is when a person or organization states that because ones race is inferior to another in one aspect or another, that they can there for, be discriminated against. Do blacks on average run faster than whites, -YES.
Therefor do they have the right to exclude whites from running? -NO.
On average, are whites better able to survive in cold climates ?, -YES.
should blacks be banned from living in Alaska ? NO.

Yes there are indeed differences between the races. All have there own unique advantages and disadvantages over one another. To acknowledge these facts can sometimes seem racist, These facts are NOT racist in themselves. It is when you try to exclude people because of their race, that you are being RACIST.

Do not flame or bait me porkbean. I am not smoking anything but cigs. Did you say that cuz I'm white? Cuz I'm republican? Cuz I don't see the world through your eyes? A political flame?

So if racism is "exclusion" due to race. Than what was OWEN excluded from and how was he "excluded"? HE WASN'T. He wasn't offended either.

The joke he made to me was racial based. Therefore in his complaint & your arguments was a racial slur. It works both ways.

Have a good day. I'm done with ya.

CC is my master... Andy is my friend... etc... etc... etc...

[alster]

I’m sure we all enjoy your American-centric discussions and perceptions on the term race (which is naïve at best, but flawed if actually bothering to read it). However, I don’t really see that anyone is even entertaining the notion that Owen has a point. I mean, it’s outrageous this thread. Anyone care to actually make a statement in what way these comments/obvious jokes at Owen’s expense falls under the abuse guidelines?

[clapper011]

well my friends, racism is racism no matter who is the one doing or saying it.

[Gypsys Kiss]

well my friends, racism is racism no matter who is the one doing or saying it.

Spot on.......

[jpcloet]

I see a lot of trolling, baiting, and racist comments. I hope admin comes down hard on several of you.

[khazalid]

so long as he uses a bit of lube i guess..

[Snorri1234]

I think that maybe the reason why you guys do not understand, is because you are not from the USA. You do not own the same history as we do. Black people in our country have every right to feel the way that they do on this subject. For you to make light of their feelings, and poke fun while using certain words that obviously have double meanings, is insensitive at best, ...and racist at worst.

The dutch sure didn't have no slaves.

I don't think racism is ok, however I do think that something actually has to be racist before it is called racist. Taking offense does not mean that the intent was racist. Just because Owen gets riled up as usual over a comment does not mean that his complaint is valid.