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That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.new guy1 wrote:I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.Anarkistsdream wrote:James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!
Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...
VoTe TWO
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
Well, take it as you will. The initial vote got the game moving enough for an extension and for us to split our votes and make a decision. I wont take the ignorant comment to heart too much, I am not the one that hammered with the reasoning "Ill give the reason tomorrow". I purely gave input and a case to go on.Anarkistsdream wrote:That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.new guy1 wrote:I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.Anarkistsdream wrote:James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!
Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...
VoTe TWO
Theinitial vote against him was ignorant enough...
Not to mention he hammered with 3 days left till the day ended. How was I supposed to predict that? Oh, someone got IB to L-1? What? I said something having to do with this conversation earlier on Day 2? Where did I say that?new guy1 wrote:Well, take it as you will. The initial vote got the game moving enough for an extension and for us to split our votes and make a decision. I wont take the ignorant comment to heart too much, I am not the one that hammered with the reasoning "Ill give the reason tomorrow". I purely gave input and a case to go on.Anarkistsdream wrote:That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.new guy1 wrote:I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.Anarkistsdream wrote:James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!
Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...
VoTe TWO
Theinitial vote against him was ignorant enough...
Oh.new guy1 wrote:Sorry I havent posted in awhile. I was going to make a post the other day, but decided I couldnt think of anything to say and gave up. I am concerned with getting anyone to L2, because while we would know who scum was with a speedlynch, I dont want to deal with the argument of "I didnt know". I said yesterday I thought IB is scummy, so I will Vote IB. Ill get reasons when I am not so tired. Can probably look at my last few posts and find them so I should have them by tomorrow.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Good lord I already SAID ALL THIS...JamesKer1 wrote:I am Town Watcher. Therefore, TWO cannot be cop. I knew one of the two was a fake claim, and out of the two, roleblocker sounded scummiest... Sorry to IB, but his death caught us a mafia.
Night 1 Results: Watch TWO, nothing happened.
Night 2 Results: Watch Nark, nothing happened.
Vote TWO
I have been leaving breadcrumbs to come back to this role throughout the game- I threw out Watcher in a list of possible town roles early on as well as bolding the "h it" in "watch it" at one point. That wasn't a mistake.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
EBWOPJamesKer1 wrote:So what has been claimed...
James- Town Watcher- Real
TWO- Town Cop- Fake
Nark- VT- Questionable with TWO's cop investigation, saying you were cleared... However, since we have confirmed him Mafia and you are voting for him at L-1, I believe it (for now)
KGB- VT- Possible
New Guy- Nothing (Presumably VT)
New Guy was on IB's lynch train (as was I, I guess) and KGB was leaning towards an IB lynch. Definitely sketchy
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
So...you're saying that you watched me night one, and you didn't bring this up when I claimed saying that I investigated Nark on N1? Please, can someone else notice this?JamesKer1 wrote:I am Town Watcher. Therefore, TWO cannot be cop. I knew one of the two was a fake claim, and out of the two, roleblocker sounded scummiest... Sorry to IB, but his death caught us a mafia.
Night 1 Results: Watch TWO, nothing happened.
Night 2 Results: Watch Nark, nothing happened.
Vote TWO
I have been leaving breadcrumbs to come back to this role throughout the game- I threw out Watcher in a list of possible town roles early on as well as bolding the "h it" in "watch it" at one point. That wasn't a mistake.
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker.JamesKer1 wrote:BS!!!
My role states that I am only allowed to see who visits my target, not who they visit. I even cleared that up with spies.
I knew this would be a great way for you to play, pin me red, see who everyone else believes... Last time my town role wasn't believed, so I made sure to leave crumbs this time to go back to.
Calling me noobish won't help your case, but as you wish. I AM NOT MAFIA. Call me out on what the exact "mafia" role is, will you? And while you are at it, can you give us Nark's role as well? "No dice" doesn't cut it.
Also to add to my case... Where would I come up with Watcher? I am a noob right? I came up with Mason and Philosopher by reading the Rock and Roll Mafia endgame part, I think I got roleblocker from Neighborhood Mafia or Fir's game. But I have yet to see Watcher.
With that lie about my role, you have confirmed you are scum. I had a small doubt in my mind that town might have been stacked very well, but that suspicion is gone thanks to your fake report on me. Congrats, my vote is on you the rest of the game. But hey, I'm dying tonight for being the real PR, unless the other maf can't kill for some reason, so it doesn't really matter.
Good game everyone, I'm pretty sure I'm dying today, whether by the town's hands or the mafia's. Trust Nark!
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
It's above. He called me mafia, still playing the cop.new guy1 wrote:I must say james, I like how you thought to bold words and spell them differently. It gives me a more subtle way to breadcrumb for later games. As far as the cases, I am quite split for various reasons. I dont like how James jumped straight to anarks case. It feels like he is trying to end the day quick, but I guess you would if you knew who scum was. I want to wait till TWO's reasoning before I make any decisions.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
The Weird One wrote:Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker. What about the second "green bit"?
Orange bit second: Mafiascum wiki? [http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles]...This site is frequently cited, on the CC mafia board. What CC mafia board?
Blue bit third: You, my fine fellow, are asking for more than I have. I was given naught but alignment. For you, I got Convict, and for Nark, I got Town.
Sadly, that's another smart way to play it. No one besides mafia would know for sure to contradict the Convict naming, and why would they speak up. Not sure that's how spies would make cop work though.
Red bit fourth: Again: See my second post, please. What? I read your posts a few times and saw nothing on this... What makes it false?
Well, since it appears that I might not have time before you push this mislynch through, I'll try and assemble my reasoning for investigating you night 2. Hopefully a post shall be coming, shortly.Oh, and I'm cute for saying that my claim was real vs. your fake one.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
WHAT!?Anarkistsdream wrote:unvote
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Your next post was throwing all kinds of accusations at Nark.JamesKer1 wrote:Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...
So...green bit: This -to me- sounds like you had prepared this post the night before, when you were deciding on who to kill. It just sounds to practiced and set up for it to be anything else.JamesKer1 wrote:Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.
Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?
And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.
Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
I felt that that was covered, as well...Was more bolding for the "with that lie about my role..." than anything else.JamesKer1 wrote:The Weird One wrote:Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker. What about the second "green bit"?
CC mafia board being this forum on which we are playing...[grammar question: would it be "in which" or "on which"?]JamesKer1 wrote:The Weird One wrote:Orange bit second: Mafiascum wiki? [http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles]...This site is frequently cited, on the CC mafia board. What CC mafia board?
JamesKer1 wrote:The Weird One wrote:Blue bit third: You, my fine fellow, are asking for more than I have. I was given naught but alignment. For you, I got Convict, and for Nark, I got Town.
Sadly, that's another smart way to play it. No one besides mafia would know for sure to contradict the Convict naming, and why would they speak up. Not sure that's how spies would make cop work though.
I'm not saying that your leaving breadcrumbs is false, necessarily. I'm even leaning toward it being true. I'm simply saying that I feel that you left them there in preparation of a future roleclaim...That being said, there is a chance that they are all by happenstance. I'm doubting that.JamesKer1 wrote:The Weird One wrote:Red bit fourth: Again: See my second post, please. What? I read your posts a few times and saw nothing on this... What makes it false?
Well, I was simply expressing my amusement with your overzealousness of trying to flaunt your alleged towniness.JamesKer1 wrote:Oh, and I'm cute for saying that my claim was real vs. your fake one.The Weird One wrote:Well, since it appears that I might not have time before you push this mislynch through, I'll try and assemble my reasoning for investigating you night 2. Hopefully a post shall be coming, shortly.
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
Why didn't you bring this up then? You had ample time. However, I will do the same thing. Plenty of time for me.The Weird One wrote:As for my reasons: I was trying to come up with a better way to phrase this, but I can't manage that...and I really don't have the time to dump into formulating thoughts better, right now...You seem to be trying too hard. Your posts come off as flashing around your supposed towniness too much. The second, much larger reason:
Your first post of the day:Your next post was throwing all kinds of accusations at Nark.JamesKer1 wrote:Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...So...green bit: This -to me- sounds like you had prepared this post the night before, when you were deciding on who to kill. It just sounds to practiced and set up for it to be anything else.JamesKer1 wrote:Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.
Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?
And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.
Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off
The Weird One wrote:In if you'll have me.
The Weird One wrote:Confirm.
The Weird One wrote:Vote TWO for submarining in all his games...that utter cad!
In all seriousness, though, with the activity, thus far, I haven't picked up anything, yet...other than Nark's glorious attempt at outing the mafia.
The Weird One wrote:It got a laugh...I'll give you that.Anarkistsdream wrote:Hey... ya never knowThe Weird One wrote:Vote TWO for submarining in all his games...that utter cad!
In all seriousness, though, with the activity, thus far, I haven't picked up anything, yet...other than Nark's glorious attempt at outing the mafia.
The Weird One wrote:It's been a busy weekend for me...I should be much more active once the week starts and all the homework hits me...Obsessively following games gives me a wonderful way to procrastinate.new guy1 wrote:Its the weekend, many people dont post on the weekends these days. I am hoping activity will jump up tomorrow.
Nice sentiment, but you still wanted to push for him? He was town.The Weird One wrote:True, but he's been completely inactive on the mafia boards, I think...he hasn't even been posting in his own game...I say we give him a chance to respond to the prod before we push for it.Iron Butterfly wrote:Small games like this are hard for Town. Mafia can sit back with a wait and see attitude.
As of present there are several of us who are posting while others are minimal to nonexistent. We have a week, which sounds like a lot but can fly by real quick.
We need a claim. Unvote VOTE Firecoal
College or not it doesn't take but 5 min to log on and see whats up in a small game like this.
Of course, because you know the rest of us besides your scum buddy are town.The Weird One wrote:Well, there goes my only lead...
The Weird One wrote:I've got to agree with Fircoal, here...I'll try to post something more substantial, on the morrow.
Wait, what? I thought you were responding to Fir's post or adding to it, not voting a Town member? TOWN VOTE 1The Weird One wrote:I realize it's not a massive scumtell, but it's all I've got right now...here's to hoping this still makes sense to me in a couple of hours when I'm actually awake. Jamesker, you seem to be bouncing your vote around trying to be putting pressure on whoever you can and then backing off very quickly. This seems more than a bit off to me. Vote Jamesker
Sure, posting... Doesn't pop out to me, but doesn't seem too substantial. Also, you didn't take your vote off me with the second explanation to my votes?The Weird One wrote:I'm with Nark, here, in thinking that it's going to be rather basic: cop, doc, scum x2, and vanilla x4...It's close enough to a C-9 numerically, that I think he's probably using that as a base.JamesKer1 wrote:I apologize for "vote bouncing", I have stated previously that it was only to try and get a post or two out of some people, and that Greg was the last one, and my vote will go off him and potentially on someone else until he posts. Also, I think it would be nice to establish a general consensus of what non VT roles there are, and how many we have. Role blockers maybe if mafia get a kill (is that going to even happen in such a small game?), philosophers, watchers, cop, doc, mason... That might help once claims start popping up.
Again, nothing substantial. You seem to be sitting back but maintaining activity, and a decent argument is going on. P6, check it out.The Weird One wrote:I could just be being silly, here, but wouldn't you not want to claim until L-1 in such a small game? My memory could just be wrong...very wrong. It's happened before, but trying to push for a claim when at L-2 just seems off to me.kgb007 wrote: I was reserving my vote until we heard more from Fir but it's becoming more and more difficult with each of your posts James...
i didn't vote against you because i still think Fir shoulda been claiming at L2, i agree with IB that we should definitely get a claim since it's such a small game and Fir arguing against himself claiming smells to high heaven to me..
vote fircoal for not claiming at L2, i think i'm the only vote against him now
Again? We just had the first claim made in the game. Sitting back much?The Weird One wrote:As said in the post where I brought the point up: it very well could just be my memory. As for the claim, there's not really anything one way or another on it. It is the easiest claim for scum to make...kgb007 wrote: i gotta side with IB here, i've always played L2 as claim time, which brings me back to the previous point i
was trying to make
TOWN VOTE 1.5 I'm pretty sure Nark is town... But who knows for sure.The Weird One wrote:While I have completely different reasons from IB -quite honestly, I don't really see much behind his reasons. I feel like nark is being a bit scummy, here. I'm getting this feeling from two posts:
and, when kgb claimed:Anarkistsdream wrote:vote: kgb
Someone has to go for us to start making progress.The first, alone, isn't too bad. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to get the ball rolling, but it's the phrasing that stands out to me. Once you add in the second one, it just sounds like nark is fishing for power rolls. He drops off of the case far too quickly. I'll admit, I have been slow to cast my vote, in this game, but that's because it's so small and takes so few votes to lynch, I feel that I should be cautious with it, accordingly.Anarkistsdream wrote:Unvote
I believe it.
Now, on to the bit of back and forth betwixt IB and nark: [they're both on this page, or this shall be the first post of the next page, so I'm not going to bother quoting.] To me, this just sounds like scum trying to distance themselves from each other, on day one. I could be wrong with that, but, either way, my first point stands.
Unvote vote Nark
, and I'd like to point out that this doesn't match up...Either that's really smart thinking on my part (which sadly, it's not), or it furthers my case in being Town. You said I was convict, correct?JamesKer1 wrote:Nark, that has nothing to do with it. I could claim Mafia Goon and it would look realistic.
Skimming since it's town posts, or are you going to come back to this later too?The Weird One wrote:I'm confused...You claimed, already?Anarkistsdream wrote:What is that... L -2?
As James so elegantly put it... I have nothing else to add... I claimed... I made COMPLETE sense... and people jump on the wagon... You all that are town should back off quickly and see who is left... or, actually, the scum probably didn't even have to try, you all are doing great without them...
Oh, I see now, you want to make sure he is VT 100% so you don't kill him. Nice move.The Weird One wrote:Please forgive the incoming wall of quotes. I'll summarize the reason, here: Nark, you keep on saying that you claimed. Here is a list of every post you have made in this thread. Please tell me which one is the claim. I see an inference or two that you are town, but no more than that. Were we supposed to be reading between the lines, or am I just that unobservant? I'd really love to know.
EDIT: Insert Wall of Nark's posts up to this point here.
Sorry for the long quote there... Summing it up: TWO did have reasons for his vote on Nark, in his mind, and he was definitely not jumping on whatever case was available, as KGB had accused him of doing.The Weird One wrote:If I recall, I did post reasons for my vote.Anarkistsdream wrote:Because at least IB came to the conclusion on his own... TWO just hopped along for the ride. IB has solid opinions based on logic that I can understand... He does this in most games I see him play in. You will notice I have agreed with him throughout this thread... I look scummy to him for valid reasons, at least, even if they aren't true.kgb007 wrote:this reeks of an OMGUS vote which isn't good anark, IB votes you first for reasons i'm still trying to put into a coherent sentence, james immediately comes to nark's defense and votes IB before TWO chimes in with his bit of scum distancing case
and then you have nark's response above, nark, why did you choose to vote TWO and not IB?
The Weird One wrote:While I have completely different reasons from IB -quite honestly, I don't really see much behind his reasons. I feel like nark is being a bit scummy, here. I'm getting this feeling from two posts:
and, when kgb claimed:Anarkistsdream wrote:vote: kgb
Someone has to go for us to start making progress.The first, alone, isn't too bad. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to get the ball rolling, but it's the phrasing that stands out to me. Once you add in the second one, it just sounds like nark is fishing for power rolls. He drops off of the case far too quickly. I'll admit, I have been slow to cast my vote, in this game, but that's because it's so small and takes so few votes to lynch, I feel that I should be cautious with it, accordingly.Anarkistsdream wrote:Unvote
I believe it.
Now, on to the bit of back and forth betwixt IB and nark: [they're both on this page, or this shall be the first post of the next page, so I'm not going to bother quoting.] To me, this just sounds like scum trying to distance themselves from each other, on day one. I could be wrong with that, but, either way, my first point stands.
Unvote vote Nark
Those look like reasons, to me.
Another long one... But nothing of substance, again. Neither did the last quote.The Weird One wrote:As far as fircoal goes, I'd rather see him replaced than lynched for inactivity. He's inactive in everything...even his own game.kgb007 wrote:fair enough, my gut says you're town so i'm not going to hammer
the risk of getting this lynch wrong is too much and i don't want the blood on my hands especially since i believe you, there's too much erratic behavior from james and lack of activity from fir among others..
i was trying to find this quote for my earlier post but wasn't going back far enough
i'm not saying i believe this but it's at least a remote possibility - what if newguy and fir are both scum and don't even have to vote in order for us to lynch one of our own? haha i'll amend my closing statement from my last post and say i'd start with james tmw depending on how today and tonight goes but fir and newguy should either up their activity levels, ask for a replacement or be subjected the scrutiny just like the rest of us, life or no life..Iron Butterfly wrote:Small games like this are hard for Town. Mafia can sit back with a wait and see attitude.
As of present there are several of us who are posting while others are minimal to nonexistent. We have a week, which sounds like a lot but can fly by real quick.
We need a claim. Unvote VOTE Firecoal
College or not it doesn't take but 5 min to log on and see whats up in a small game like this.
SCUMMY!The Weird One wrote:I'm not really behind a no lynch. Yes, it is a small game, and we don't want to give the scum a free kill, but, at the same time, I'm not certain we want to waste an opportunity to hit them. All in all, I'm still suspicious of Nark. The claim is just too easy to make...My vote shall stand until I see a better case.
... But you are willing to leave your vote out there on townies, right?The Weird One wrote:I realize my lone stand means nothing. I'm just leaving my opinion out there. I'm not expecting anybody to follow me or to be held up by me.Anarkistsdream wrote:As I said in another game, this isn't "Twelve Angry Men." You aren't the loan juror... your 'stand' doesn't mean squat, brother... I am NOT scummy and if you aren't than find another target... or don't... Two votes against me won't cut it, and will be remembered if something happens in a two person scum group... I do not want anybody town- oh, I mean Vanilla Townie since it is just SO common- to die, and we will certainly lose one through the night... we can't lose two. Or TWO... Get it? A pun with your nameThe Weird One wrote:I'm not really behind a no lynch. Yes, it is a small game, and we don't want to give the scum a free kill, but, at the same time, I'm not certain we want to waste an opportunity to hit them. All in all, I'm still suspicious of Nark. The claim is just too easy to make...My vote shall stand until I see a better case.
Summary: TWO is arguing against a now-dead townie and a presumably townie. He agrees with IB though about Fir and KGB being possibly scummy. And he wants to know what WIFOM means (why not go to these mafia board things?)The Weird One wrote:First off, sorry for the delay. Exam in twelve hours. Last one for a couple of weeks, though...so at least there's that.
Now that that's out of the way, here comes the disjointed sleep-deprived ramblings. Enjoy!
Nark, you say that you have suspicions...would you care to share with the class?
Fircoal, you say that it's surprising to have had such a short night or that it speaks of some high level of inactivity. . . You do realize that all players and the mod are from the states, right? There's not that much of a time gap, so it would make sense that it would be resolved quickly. Twenty hours is a bit quick, but with everyone clustered so tightly [regarding time zones], it's not that out of place. It almost seems that you're trying to shift the attention toward the actives when you yourself have been less active [I know you have been inactive due to real life, but that doesn't stop it from appearing that you're trying to slide attention far away from you]
Post in question:Fircoal wrote:Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.
Random question to Nark:Was there an ironic typo here? If not, please explain your reasoning...I'm baffled, honestly.Anarkistsdream wrote:Of course, due to my thought processes, that immediately makes me think the scum is someone decently new to mafia... Of course, someone with experience doesn't kill off the people who post a lot because THOSE are the people who typically get into linguistic trouble...
I find myself agreeing with the point IB brings up:Iron Butterfly wrote:I also find it funny the both of you are trying to make it sound like there is just 1 mafia, which would only help mafia.
Not really related to anything, but screw it, this is my disjointed ramble, I can have as little cohesion as I damn well please! ...This line from you, nark, makes me laugh a bit...using this -admittedly sensible- line of reasoning, couldn't an experienced scum get away with killing people that were heading up their lynch mobs during night one and two using this logic as protection? Since they're experienced, nobody would assume it was them...anyway, back to some semblance of a topic...Anarkistsdream wrote:Anybody with a brain who has ever played mafia knows better than to go after someone going after them... beyond that, your post is laughably ridiculous.. Why go after him with his one vote andZERO posts when people like IB are hardassing me?
And, for the love of the gods, can somebody please explain what the Hell WIFOM means aside from "whine in front of me"....I'm all kinds of confused...and humiliated by said confusion....
So, yes...those are my thoughts thus far...hope they make more sense to you than to me...and I hope I can post something moderately coherent, tomorrow, after the exam.
Substantial? Nope. Just "activity." Great argument going on at the time though.The Weird One wrote:That h makes a difference. Thank you, ser.
In context, he wants to know about Nark's suspicions he posted about on the beginning of Day 2. The only thing suspicious about this is it took him over a page to post it after his last post. Not substantial.The Weird One wrote:I, too, am waiting on that theory. That's the one part of my ramble that hasn't yet been answered.
Besides BS'ing the reasoning of all of Nark's voting, which was actually extremely relevant and I can't believe I didn't see it at the time, you pointed out 2 confirmed townies and 1 possible townie as being suspicious. Wow.The Weird One wrote:Bolded bit, first: I do believe that I was quite accusatory of you.Anarkistsdream wrote:Doing this on my phone... sorry. Newguy and kgb both had the opportunity to hammer me and have ample justification, yet they did not, even though the repercussions would have been nearlu nonexistent, so I believe they are town. Iron Butterfly is so aggressive and nit picky, few mafia get away with that without overplaying their hand... he is town, if that is to be reasoned. James is still crazy, basically agreeing with far too many people without having TOO much new info to bring... That would most likely make him town. That leaves fir and TWO. They are old school and have been playing this for years. They are argumentative and pushy, but never truly accusatory. They nitpick other arguments and play devils advocate but never really try to start a push in any given direction. They have also had no contact through posts in this game... have they ever said anything to one another? They are also both on the site fairly often, especially around the time of night. I firmly believe at least one, if not both, is mafia... Vote: TWO
As far as fir and I not communicating: my long braindead ramble had at least one direct bit of talking to him. He later responds to this.Fircoal wrote:I didn't know that everyone was from the states. Maybe it's because I'm speaking from my own experience of delaying my own actions and not communicating with my teammates well. (I have serious communication issues) I really didn't expect it and I still think something can be thought about it.The Weird One wrote: Fircoal, you say that it's surprising to have had such a short night or that it speaks of some high level of inactivity. . . You do realize that all players and the mod are from the states, right? There's not that much of a time gap, so it would make sense that it would be resolved quickly. Twenty hours is a bit quick, but with everyone clustered so tightly [regarding time zones], it's not that out of place. It almost seems that you're trying to shift the attention toward the actives when you yourself have been less active [I know you have been inactive due to real life, but that doesn't stop it from appearing that you're trying to slide attention far away from you]
Post in question:Fircoal wrote:Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.
And btw I'm not trying to shift attention away from myself because if you have noticed the end of yesterday and the beginning of today I have been quite active. I would expect to be considered active for that time even though I haven't been for the full time.
I was thinking perhaps Chu and IB were a bit scummy, what with dominating the thread with meaningless statements about everything being WIFOM. I'm still not fully trusting of you, but, after that long attack on each other, I'm feeling it's one of them. Walls of text can be quite beneficial to us, but walls of text that are essentially paragraph after paragraph of repeating something that doesn't help at all helps no one but scum. The both of them have played enough to know this, by now. In response to your attack on me: most of that is ungrounded. This makes me more and more suspicious of you...That being said, I can see three that are standing out, right now: yourself, Chu, and IB.
Fishing for town PRs... Wow. Didn't catch that then. I have a gut feeling KGB is town, so TOWN VOTE 2/3The Weird One wrote:Well, I'm at a loss, here...There is a bit of a case against IB, but I'm unsure if there's enough substance behind it...That being said, it's been about five days since kgb last posted...
vote kgb
Substantial? Nope. Just to show activity.The Weird One wrote:No. My last post was on Monday...That being said, this is going hellaciously slow...Bah!kgb007 wrote:really? bc the last time TWO posted was right after me on Friday, this game has been stalling since the weekend as it seems the arguments have died down, by my count, there are 4 of us with 1 vote each cast against, IB, TWO, nark and myself
i'm waiting for new guy to post again since all he really did was vote IB and say he'll post more later, however I would disagree with his argument that it would be hard to get someone to L2, considering it only takes 4 votes to lynch....
new guy1 wrote:Sorry I havent posted in awhile. I was going to make a post the other day, but decided I couldnt think of anything to say and gave up. I am concerned with getting anyone to L2, because while we would know who scum was with a speedlynch, I dont want to deal with the argument of "I didnt know". I said yesterday I thought IB is scummy, so I will Vote IB. Ill get reasons when I am not so tired. Can probably look at my last few posts and find them so I should have them by tomorrow.
Of course it sucks for the town, not you though. Funny how it take this to get you to post for a while though.The Weird One wrote:I'm unsure on this one...On the one hand it's a role that I wouldn't expect to see in a basic game, but it is simple enough to still fit. I would see roleblocker as a semi-safe claim for scum in this setup. If he is being honest, though, it sucks that we hit a power role with a claim...Iron Butterfly wrote:Hey guys. Sorry I took some cold medicine for a cold and have been a zombie.
OK claim time eh?? May as well as this game is at a dead end as far as I am concerned.
I am Town Role Blocker. This is one of the reasons I made my statement that about roles and my accusations of people minimizing roles.. If I am the only power role I have to guess not only who mafia is but who is going for the kill. On night one I blocked gregwolf. I thought he may be mafia because of his limited posting.
TOWN VOTE 3/4The Weird One wrote:For the aforementioned reasons, something I should have done in my last post: vote IB
What was your reasoning for blocking gregwolf?
.... Well, you already have my thoughts on this one.The Weird One wrote:To respond to James's confusion, I already gave my reasons for not trusting it...it just seemed too convenient. That being said, I doubt that that shall be enough to magically get anyone off of my bandwagon if you weren't able to let that sink in the first time...Yes, I've been rather noncommittal the whole game with my votes, but that's because I didn't see any strong enough cases, and I didn't want to have wasted lynches. I am the Town Cop. Night one, I investigated Nark. Reasoning being that he seemed like a scummy bastard at the end of day one. No dice.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Sorry NG, only threw the hint out there of my suspicions. I don't have much to back them on, just what I noticed out of all of this looking over TWO's posts- he has never really said anything bad about you. TWO is convincing, I'd say so myself, so I fear this game may be over when I wake up if I'm lynched. Wanted to post everything going on in my messed up head.new guy1 wrote:Im intrigued to see how you got from TWO being scum to TWO and I being scum, so I would like that information. You are drawing me to believe nark and you are scum, as with the evidence you just supplied, it is not in my best interest to lynch TWO. He probably unvoted because you put TWO at L1, and that is scummy in anyone's book. You are single handedly putting us into groups that you have no way of confirming (except through posts, which I have not made myself connected to anyone) and expecting KGB to pick between us. You have been with nark this whole game, so I dont know who you think you're convincing, but you may want to change your thought process. TWO made a good counter argument, and you tried to pick it apart. I will get sleep on it and reevaluate tomorrow, I want to read the whole day again to see what I find.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?JamesKer1 wrote:Sorry NG, only threw the hint out there of my suspicions. I don't have much to back them on, just what I noticed out of all of this looking over TWO's posts- he has never really said anything bad about you. TWO is convincing, I'd say so myself, so I fear this game may be over when I wake up if I'm lynched. Wanted to post everything going on in my messed up head.new guy1 wrote:Im intrigued to see how you got from TWO being scum to TWO and I being scum, so I would like that information. You are drawing me to believe nark and you are scum, as with the evidence you just supplied, it is not in my best interest to lynch TWO. He probably unvoted because you put TWO at L1, and that is scummy in anyone's book. You are single handedly putting us into groups that you have no way of confirming (except through posts, which I have not made myself connected to anyone) and expecting KGB to pick between us. You have been with nark this whole game, so I dont know who you think you're convincing, but you may want to change your thought process. TWO made a good counter argument, and you tried to pick it apart. I will get sleep on it and reevaluate tomorrow, I want to read the whole day again to see what I find.
It is always in your best interest to lynch TWO though.
You or KGB...new guy1 wrote:
Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
I figured. Are those in order of scumminess? Or the opposite? Just wondering.Anarkistsdream wrote:You or KGB...new guy1 wrote:
Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?
