Ultimate Captain+ Doubles [Big_Whiskey & nikola_milicki]

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:53 am

poll is 15 Against and 13 For -- shouldn't that mean it's out..............

ohh wait-- First gets 4 votes..........

chessplaya · Post by **chessplaya** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:06 am

lol i would personally like to see esclating fade away ... and flat rate there !

firstholliday · Post by **firstholliday** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:00 am

[quote="Scott-Land"]poll is 15 Against and 13 For -- shouldn't that mean it's out..............

Yeah but replace it with what?

First gets 4 votes. I respect andrew so i won't trash your name here. How's the clan going? Can you find poeple that will play for a dictator? Top Gun... hehe

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:48 pm

Yes, the poll was at 48% no's and 52% yes's when I made my decision.

The original intent of this tournament was to play across all the settings, so I will try to keep it that way, unless there is a strong reason not too.

52% is not strong enough

firstholliday · Post by **firstholliday** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:46 am

game 1130700 st and fh win in round six from Big W and Nikola M

Not that it matters but just wanted to let you know.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:44 pm

The tie-breaker games should be finished pretty soon.

Stand by for the next round.

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:12 am

firstholliday wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:poll is 15 Against and 13 For -- shouldn't that mean it's out..............

Yeah but replace it with what?

First gets 4 votes. I respect andrew so i won't trash your name here. How's the clan going? Can you find poeple that will play for a dictator? Top Gun... hehe

yeah we did- 4 to be exact but it didnt work out. we currently have 8, still havnt decided on the two remaining spots yet. thanks for your interest.

Karlo Veliki · Post by **Karlo Veliki** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:32 am

do not replace flat rate....

Fantine · Post by **Fantine** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:40 pm

AndrewB wrote: Also in group B team Fantine - Rebelionleader has failed to appear at the tie-braker games and therefore has forfeited their matches.

Haven't seen any PM at all!

Anyway, we did mention in our game with AndrewB that we were on holiday. Since Reb and I were in the US (with just a crappy dial-up link - if we had internet at all) we did not check forum for a few days.

Too bad we got kicked out of the tournament for that, but good luck to all who remain

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:31 pm

Fantine wrote:
AndrewB wrote: Also in group B team Fantine - Rebelionleader has failed to appear at the tie-braker games and therefore has forfeited their matches.
Haven't seen any PM at all!

Anyway, we did mention in our game with AndrewB that we were on holiday. Since Reb and I were in the US (with just a crappy dial-up link - if we had internet at all) we did not check forum for a few days.

Too bad we got kicked out of the tournament for that, but good luck to all who remain

I have deleted those PMs just 2 days ago, as they were not valid anymore.

You were away for more then a week. And I never saw any warnings from you, not in any games...

You should have let everyone know before leaving for that long.

I will be running more of the similar tournaments in the future. Hopefully you will join!

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:39 pm

The tie is broken in group A.

Mike Doherty - nmwinelover will proceed to the next round.

nvwinelover · Post by **nvwinelover** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:03 pm

I think the rule about carrying forward points should have been added before the tournament started not after. Especially since your team benefits the most from it.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:46 pm

nvwinelover wrote:I think the rule about carrying forward points should have been added before the tournament started not after. Especially since your team benefits the most from it.

This rule was created when I was not leading in the tournament. All my loses happened in the beginning. Why didn't you say anything against it on Oct 22 when it came out? It was midway of the first round with lots of games to play...

It was a response on the emerging tactic of throwing games, just because they were in. And to make every game interesting and count. Please check out this this post

And I am not the only one who benefited the MOST from it. Yorkiepeter - chard also have 8 points too.

At the end of the day I have changed rules several times since the sign up process was started. And in EVERY decision I have made I was guided by the benefit of the tournament, not my own.

For example I personally don't like flat rate, but yet I haven't change it when it was close call to do so after the poll.

Does it mean that you don't trust me in running the tournament impartially? I hope that other players don't feel that way...

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:48 pm

I don't Andrew. I think you changed it with ample time left in the first round of play. We were actually counting on a few points -- but turns out we barely advanced = )

I can imagine how time consuming and redundant running a tournament could be. I certainly don't envy you............. doing a great job and appreciate all the hard work you've put into it.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:12 am

The tie is broken in group C. Karle Veliki and LEONE proceed to the next round.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:13 am

Congratulations to all, who proceed to the next round!

Round 2 is Started. Set 1/2/3/4 are opened and PMs are sent out.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:12 pm

I will be on holidays first 2 weeks of January. I would like to finish this tournament before I leave.

nvwinelover · Post by **nvwinelover** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:32 pm

I didn't mean to imply I thought you were running it impartially even though that is obviously how its sounds when i re read it. So apologize for that conotation.

However I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't check the posts as I didin't think it was necessary to check the posts for rule changes once a tournament starts. Only viewed the tables to see what games I was playing.

In the future i just think rules should be set in the beginning and not changed once the tournament starts. This will prevent any feeling of impartiality even if it is not the intent.

I am enjoying the tournament though! But it is very frustrating when you find out you are going into the second round at a big disadvantage because the rules were changed after the tourney started.

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:03 pm

I wish, it could have been so easy define and identify the rules right from the beginning. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible. I am trying to do such changes as little as possible. I don't expect any changes for the future rounds.

But I don't think anything would change if that rule was defined in the beginning. Because you were doing your best anyhow, weren't you?

If anything it just makes you play better, and keeps you always on the toes.

firstholliday · Post by **firstholliday** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:47 am

And we are on our way!! Yihaaaaa

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:24 pm

Trestain has joined some game wrongfully.

Once he drops the games please join your games, guys.

We need to proceed ASAP, we have 48 hours to do that...

Mike Doherty · Post by **Mike Doherty** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:00 pm

1165529 mikedoherty and nvwinelover won

been three days...still no ptlowe...?

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:52 am

All but 1 games are started.

I am planning to open flat games on Wednesday.

nikola_milicki · Post by **nikola_milicki** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:49 am

Big and nik win in 1165536

AndrewB · Post by **AndrewB** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:23 am

Updated as of Nov 13

Ultimate Captain+ Doubles [Big_Whiskey & nikola_milicki]

flat rate

points carryforward

Re: points carryforward

not what i meant