Bible Prophecy

[DaGip]

Why isn't the Pope on this list?

Which one?

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

The new one ofcourse.

Are you sure it wasn't the old one?

[MR. Nate]

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

What evidence do you have that Pope John Paull II the Jezebel that led astray the church of Thyatira?

[Neoteny]

Why isn't the Pope on this list?

Which one?

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

The new one ofcourse.

Pope Benny is easily the most photogenic pope ever... and damn is he creepy-looking... John Paul was nowhere near as scary.

[Backglass]

He means that God's children (us) are killing each other for not agreeing on which sky daddy is real.

"Skydaddy®" is a registered trademark of Backglass Industries.

Oh...and magical gods don't exist.

That is all.

[DaGip]

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

What evidence do you have that Pope John Paull II the Jezebel that led astray the church of Thyatira?

None. God told me. Jezebel=Pope John Paul II

[DaGip]

He means that God's children (us) are killing each other for not agreeing on which sky daddy is real.

"Skydaddy®" is a registered trademark of Backglass Industries.

Oh...and magical gods don't exist.

That is all.

I agree, magical gods do not exist.

I havent' seen you around for some time, Backglass.

[MR. Nate]

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

What evidence do you have that Pope John Paull II the Jezebel that led astray the church of Thyatira?

None. God told me. Jezebel=Pope John Paul II

I'd like to refer you to Revelation 22:18

[DaGip]

The death of Pope John Paul II is prophecised about in Revelation 2:22.

What evidence do you have that Pope John Paull II the Jezebel that led astray the church of Thyatira?

None. God told me. Jezebel=Pope John Paul II

I'd like to refer you to Revelation 22:18

I don't believe I added anything but only interpretted it. These are the End Times, Nate...you better get to interpretting!

I would like to refer you to Second Peter 1:20

Everyone might think that this thread is some big joke, that's all and well, but let them read and hear interpretations of the Book of Revelation.

So now refer to Revelation 1:3

This is the END OF DAYS. Interpret what you will, or do not interpret. I, on the other hand have no qualms about interpretting the Book of Revelation.

I wish I could interpret the whole book, but most of the time correct interpretations do not come until after an event, then it hits you.

[MR. Nate]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

[DaGip]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

I did all that already. I am prepared for death, as I have met the Angel Michael face to face and told me that Bush is the Last President of these United States!

[Hologram]

See, I might give your argument at least a small amount of credence, except for one thing.

You started off assuming that these are the end times and that bin Laden must be the great evil of all times. When you do that you can make prophecy say anything you want it to be. I suggest you actually take the Hebrew Abbadon or Greek Apollyon and translate it into Arabic to see if your argument holds water, because I doubt that it'd be in an anagram conveniently in English. In case you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of languages, many of which are in predominately Christian areas.

[Hologram]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

I did all that already. I am prepared for death, as I have met the Angel Michael face to face and told me that Bush is the Last President of these United States!

....

We'll see.

[DaGip]

See, I might give your argument at least a small amount of credence, except for one thing.

You started off assuming that these are the end times and that bin Laden must be the great evil of all times. When you do that you can make prophecy say anything you want it to be. I suggest you actually take the Hebrew Abbadon or Greek Apollyon and translate it into Arabic to see if your argument holds water, because I doubt that it'd be in an anagram conveniently in English. In case you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of languages, many of which are in predominately Christian areas.

If God wanted to warn the Christians in America about the End Times, would He do it in Arabic? Hebrew? No...He would do it in English. Even if the book of Revelation was written in Greek a thousand years ago, the fact it was inspired by the Almighty allows Him to speak in any language for a vast amount of time.

God can speak and communicate in English well enough, He ain't an illegal immigrant.

[Hologram]

See, I might give your argument at least a small amount of credence, except for one thing.

You started off assuming that these are the end times and that bin Laden must be the great evil of all times. When you do that you can make prophecy say anything you want it to be. I suggest you actually take the Hebrew Abbadon or Greek Apollyon and translate it into Arabic to see if your argument holds water, because I doubt that it'd be in an anagram conveniently in English. In case you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of languages, many of which are in predominately Christian areas.

If God wanted to warn the Christians in America about the End Times, would He do it in Arabic? Hebrew? No...He would do it in English. Even if the book of Revelation was written in Greek a thousand years ago, the fact it was inspired by the Almighty allows Him to speak in any language for a vast amount of time.

God can speak and communicate in English well enough, He ain't an illegal immigrant.

I wasn't saying that. I was asking why he wouldn't also warn the French, or the Germans, or the Ethiopians. Now if you want to believe that he just doesn't care about any of them, that's fine. But if you don't, then you have to realize that anagrams in one language won't work in another.

[DaGip]

See, I might give your argument at least a small amount of credence, except for one thing.

You started off assuming that these are the end times and that bin Laden must be the great evil of all times. When you do that you can make prophecy say anything you want it to be. I suggest you actually take the Hebrew Abbadon or Greek Apollyon and translate it into Arabic to see if your argument holds water, because I doubt that it'd be in an anagram conveniently in English. In case you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of languages, many of which are in predominately Christian areas.

If God wanted to warn the Christians in America about the End Times, would He do it in Arabic? Hebrew? No...He would do it in English. Even if the book of Revelation was written in Greek a thousand years ago, the fact it was inspired by the Almighty allows Him to speak in any language for a vast amount of time.

God can speak and communicate in English well enough, He ain't an illegal immigrant.

I wasn't saying that. I was asking why he wouldn't also warn the French, or the Germans, or the Ethiopians. Now if you want to believe that he just doesn't care about any of them, that's fine. But if you don't, then you have to realize that anagrams in one language won't work in another.

I can't read those other languages, maybe there are anagrams in those languages as well, but I am unable to tell.

I can read a little German and that's about it.

Verstehst du das?

[MR. Nate]

So despite the fact that you've already said that Scripture does not have private interpretation, you're clinging to the fact that you're the only one who can see these "interpretations?" Doesn't that seem a by contradictory?

[heavycola]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

I did all that already. I am prepared for death, as I have met the Angel Michael face to face and told me that Bush is the Last President of these United States!

So what happens when the next president gets elected? Do you promise to give up this bullshit when that happens?

[DaGip]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

I did all that already. I am prepared for death, as I have met the Angel Michael face to face and told me that Bush is the Last President of these United States!

So what happens when the next president gets elected? Do you promise to give up this bullshit when that happens?

No.

[griffin_slayer]

that's sad

[Gregrios]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

Nosterdomas predicted that there would only be one more Pope after John Paul II. It would be someone by the name of Peter the Roman, then the end of the world would be upon us.

Considering that Nosterdomas's visions were not inspired by God, I've got to doubt him on what he says just a little bit. Who knows, he may have been right. We'll know if the next Pope is named Peter.

Until then we'll just arrogently acuse Popes for being the same as the worst women in history. You know guys, Jezebel was actually a person that lived way back when and was married to King Ahaz.

[griffin_slayer]

maybe so but that doesn't change the fact that the whole thing is probably wrong, i think that there is a .00000000000000000000000000000001% chance of it being correct

[DaGip]

no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation

So the fact that peter says that no one has the right to say "I know the real meaning of this scripture and no one else does" somehow justifies the fact that you said "God revealed to me that John Paull II is Jezebel, and he hasn't revealed it to anyone else." It seems to be a logical contradiction.

On the other hand, heeding what is written seems to imply obediance to the commands, such as "Repent" (2:5) "Wake up"(3:2) "Be Zealous" (3:19)

Nosterdomas predicted that there would only be one more Pope after John Paul II. It would be someone by the name of Peter the Roman, then the end of the world would be upon us.

Considering that Nosterdomas's visions were not inspired by God, I've got to doubt him on what he says just a little bit. Who knows, he may have been right. We'll know if the next Pope is named Peter.

Until then we'll just arrogently acuse Popes for being the same as the worst women in history. You know guys, Jezebel was actually a person that lived way back when and was married to King Ahaz.

It wasn't a prophecy of Nostradamus, it was prophecies of St.Malachy:

http://www.newagedirectory.com/pro/malachy.htm

[MR. Nate]

It wasn't a prophecy of Nostradamus, it was prophecies of St.Malachy:

http://www.newagedirectory.com/pro/malachy.htm

And we all know how much more accurate St. Malachy was than Nostradamus!

[TheTrust]

Long pm ahead boys. Basically it deals with where the beast is expected to come from. What the beast will do, what is his purpose. How can he accomplish what he's going to do. It deals with the beast's assassination (yes, the beast dies) and his reincarnation as the Devil himself takes over. It deals with a chip to be introduced and implemented to do all selling and buying. It will become massively needed. This message also deals with the 10 Kingdoms that the beast leads at the start of his campaign, a 7 year peace treaty wth Israel that will start the tribulation and the rebellion of 3 kingdoms vs the 7 Loyalist kingdoms under the Beast.

This message deals with the systematic implementation of a 1 world religion, currency and political system. Finally, the war to end all wars, very few of you will read it all. Some may. Let me know what you think.

Its believed that the beast will emerge from Europe. (Based on Relations regarding former roman empire outlines)

There are some very interesting things about this prophecy (please be aware I havent read the whole thread so if this is already said then I apologize.

Some of the signs...

Well, This beast (Antichrist) will be looking to unite the world so it will be hard to genuinly hate the guy. He will appear as a savior to most.

He will work towards uniting Currency and setting up global relations but the main sign will be when he brokers a 7 year Treaty between Isreal and (what is loosely referred to as...) its neighbors.

More specifics to follow after this treaty will be to somehow unite the temple mound with the Mosque. A key symbol of peace in the Middle east.

Eventually that will branch out, with peace in the middle east he will aquire a huge position of power not over 1 country but over a large unit of countries, some suspect the European Union, others suspect United Nations. Something of the sort. What follows then is a subdivision of 10 great "kingdoms" (could be countries themselves or regions of lands that have united countries)

These 10 great kingdoms become a leader in global prosperity. Technologically and Financially these kingdoms emerge basically "ahead" of the world. Under the direct influence of the beast. These 10 Kingdoms begin to represent "the devils foothold". Back in the day everyone though Jesus would enter as a great leader and overthrow the romans only to be shocked when he came as a defensless child. The beast will not come as such a defensless individual. These 10 kingdoms, refered to as the 10 horns of the beast will be directly controlled by him and as they lead the world in all aspects of life, his influence over the globe is represented through these 10 kingdoms.

Then things get interesting. The bible prophecies of a rebellion against the beast. 3 of the 10 kingdoms will turn on him. The reason for which isnt clear but that leaves it open to interpretation. Scholars and such have predicted that these 10 kingdoms become world manipulators and begin orchestrating the world like a business, not just a political system. Some decisions will be made, some events will take place that causes a divide in the 10 kingdoms, and for (a widely accepted number is ..) 3 kingdoms to turn on him, its going to cause a war. The rest of the world will be involved (obviously) however the main partakers in the war will be the 3 rebel kingdoms and the 7 "Loyalists" to the beast. The rebellion will be slaughtered and the beast will use the event to begin uniting all the "outlying countries" from his kingdoms.

The smaller countries, 3rd world countries, all these places will become objects of massive worldwide building programs, he will unite the world under 1 technological banner. In doing so he will Establish a 1 world policing system. This also leads to a 1 world religion. All religions will be accepted at first (christianity will be exempted because it claims to be the only way to god, and under the theme of "total unity" anyone who adopts christianity as a religion or defends it outright will be considered at first enemies of the "new world vision" and finally enemies of the state. Enemy of the state seems harsh in the early stages but when this 1 leader becomes the reason for the entire world's economic growth, success and security, he will become the state).

3.5 years into the Tribulation period (beginning the day the peace treaty with Israel is signed) the Beast is going to be assassinated. The bible says he will be wounded in the head by a sword and heal himself. Now, we've all had minor wounds that heal and its no real case for amazement. A very common view is that the beast will not be killed in battle or in war, he will be killed by an assassin of a minor resistance. This is to be expected in the time that there is very little organized resistance (the world uniting phase of the prophecy will be going along fairly well if this is the case). The assassination will cause the world to panic, this whole peaceful atmosphere will become a very depressing atmosphere for a large part of the world. This will lead to automatic hate and suspicion of anybody who opposed this leader.

After 3 days, the beast is going to rise from the dead. This is going to be monumental for the world watching. The beast will be making a mockery of the rise of christ and at the same time convince world that he is a deity. The rising from the dead characterises the difference between the "Beast" and the "dragon". Prior to this assassination, the beast is the vessel, the politician, the figure that the devil influences to make a way for him. When the beast is assassinated, Satan himself will enter the body of the beast and rise from the dead. No longer influenced by the devil, the beast will be inhabited by the devil. This leader will then authorize the unconditional removal of those who oppose him. This draws the line of war between the loyalists and the rebels once again but this time the Devil himself will be leading. He will systematically hunt down and destroy any christian he can find. There will be an introduction of a computer chip (to be inserted into the right hand or forhead). This chip will be basically your economic key to life. You wont be able to buy or sell without this chip. This chip will also be a locator, aiding to track whoever takes it anywhere and last but not least, the chip will be the ever talked about, "Mark of the Beast" whoever takes this chip will have officially chosen to be loyal to the devil as opposed to God and their souls, hell-bound with no chance of parol.

This chip is the lead-up to the final phase of the Tribulation. The organized rebellion of countries against the devil will be over because the bible says the chip will reach the world. The only opposition to the beast will be individuals and minor groups who have to commit criminal acts to get any food or shelter because they will have achieved "outcast" status among this new world order. They will be hunted like dogs, hated by all who take the mark of the beast and as God strikes the planet with boils, floods, great troubles, God will be evening the playing field as much as possible for his hundreds of thousands of saints that remain.

Finally, just before the end of the 7 year treaty the devil will turn on it. The western world will be entirely overrun and an unbearrable place to live if you dont align yourself with this world leader. The "worlds outcasts" will find their way back to Israel, the 1 place protected under the treaty, the bible says every last believe that is able to survive the tribulation will herd into Israel under fear of death. It will be a last stand. And when this happens, the World leader will lead a final campaign against Israel. The Bible says his armies will be like the sands of the beach. There will be no chance for Israel to win this, they will be out-teched, outmanned, outgunned, All they will be able to do is cry to God and when they do, God will open the heavens and lead his armies to defend israel. In a quick battle the worlds armies will be beaten and the Devil will be cast down to hell, God will then set up his "heaven on Earth".

[DaGip]

Finally! Someone who actually wants to TRY and interpret Bible Prophecy, so that we will all have a clue as to who or what the Beast is?

If you read carefully, there are 3 beasts mentioned:

1.The Beast from the Sea (Abyss)
2. The Beast from the Earth

The first Beast would include Bin Laden and I believe the reference to the Abyss in Chapter 9 is a direct reference to 9-11 and the attacks on America, which throws America into a Bottomless Pit or Abyss--which you can see we are in right now.

The reference to the beast/king that was but is not a good reference to Osama (refer to Chapter 17 Rev.)

The reference to Victor Yuschenko, I believe, is in verse 17:10.

Revelation 17:10 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
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10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

That short space in time is 42 months of authority from Chapter 13.

Using the 2004 Tsunami (as I believe is described in the beginning of Chapter 13) as a prophetic marker of reference, we can count out the months until the authority of Yuschenko comes to an end (my counting would be June 26, 2008, I believe that to be exactly 42 months).

The Beast (False Prophet=known to be a notorious LIAR) of the Earth with two horns LIKE a lamb (not AS a lamb).

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

I believe this to be none other than our lovable President George W. Bush.