Mad Men Mafia - Day 2 (6/9) Town Wins!

[Yomiel]

>_< This is ridiculous. There is no reason to vote for me! Don't fall for Campin's lies!

Shaggy, your post strikes me as very suspicious. First, if you had actually read Dim's case, then you'd see where he admits to voting me for personal reasons. Then you'd also see that I try and move things along in EVERY game, and in both games where I've died, I was revealed to be Town. And I DID defend myself, repeatedly. How can you claim otherwise, when several other players are even saying I was OVERLY defensive.

The case against Campin is simple. He voted me for personal reasons, along with two other players. He tacked on a reason that didn't add up-as he knows I try to move things along in all games I'm in, and I've been Town in both games I've died in. Even if that had been his real reason for voting, it just wouldn't even remotely suggest I was Mafia. Then, he frequently insults me and tells lies about me, such as saying I called him a pig and claiming I offered no defense when I defended myself repeatedly. He and his buddies were trying to bully me into claiming and get me killed with no real case against me. There is no reason to vote for me, and you are playing right into his hand.

[Campin_Killer]

You were town in both games, congrats.

There was no personal reasons, and if you continue to accuse me of voting you for personal reasons, this will get very ugly, very fast

[Yomiel]

Your own posts show it, by how hostile you are to me and how little sense your alleged reason makes. Nothing you say adds up, and if I end up dead, hopefully the Town will get wise and lynch you next.

[Yomiel]

Jonty, you were kind of suspicious of Shaggy. What do you think of his post about his reasons for voting me, which don't add up and even contradict other players reasons for voting me?

[Campin_Killer]

Welcome to Hell

Population: Yomiel

Folks, let's take a walk,

Let's go back to CYOC Mafia, where edocsil, was accused of being Yomiel's stalker, and the person who kidnapped, raped, and murdered her sister. You'll have to do some looking, but if you sort by author and better yet, click here, you'll eventually find said post.

In fact, she has claimed the same about multiple people, as you will find out if you click here.

Not to mention all you have to do is google search "Yomiel mafia" and "Sakura_Chan Mafia," you'll find that she has accused many, many, more people of this.

Also, if you click here, you can find even MORE examples of the bullshit.

She has been banned from multiple mafia and other sites including: Mafiascum, Epic Mafia, and many many more.

tl;dr? Lynch Yomiel and end the trolling

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Vote Count Belisle to clear things up.

and on the exact same page, a few posts up

sorry guy's that I havent posted much yet.

RL has takin over for a bit , I havent caught up reading yet. I'm on page 10 of this thread. I will get caught up and post tonight sometime after 10PM PST.

thank you for understanding

wut.

and now you are bandwagoning yomiel...

shaggy is already skimming and vote hopping to every bandwagon, I find it suspect.
Unvote vote shaggy

and yomiel seems defensive of count besile, I say if yom flips scum, we pressure him next, and visa versa.

[Yomiel]

Um, host, is it just me, or did Campin just MAJORLY break your new rules? That's all I'm going to say on that.

I will defend any player I don't feel deserves a lynch or is being targeted for reasons I don't support. This includes Count right now. If you make a good case, I'll probably vote for him.

[Yomiel]

Unvote: Campin
Vote: Shaggy

[thechuck51]

@ yomiel - I will determine when my rules are broken, thank you.

@ campin_killer
I would not consider this post keeping it "professional":
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p3823363
If you would like to bring up yomiel's meta that is one thing but that post is inflammatory and the same point(s) could have been made in a much more civil manner.

Please consider this your warning. Continuing to post in such a manner will result in being replaced.

[Count Belisle]

Hmm, Yomiel was my lead on my read of the thread but I am happy with his answers

Count Beslie, is at L-2, should we push him to claim, because it seems to be a weak case of inactivity.

FOS Shaggy for bandwaggoning and I find it ironic that he's voting someone for inactivity.

FASTPOSTED by Yomiel.

I'm still sorry, O.K.check it out I have never played a Mafia game, Real life did take hold, and if my clan obligations seem weak to you well, I,ll PM you password you see how many CL4 CC# and clan training games I have going on On top of Read so far 18 pages of What the FRACK is going on here? I was about to ask to all involved to take it outside,kick each others ass, come back wipe their nose, loser buy's the round of beers and get back to the Game. I didn't know if this was game strategy or a personal bitch session

now please if my stupidity is going to get me lynched so be it. after read 18 pages of what ever is going on I still don't have any clue to how to play this game, I hears such great things about this game and how the Mafia community is small, the mafia community has made public statements for people to come join ,play and experience this game I love CC and so thats why I wanted to try, but after 18 pages of that why would anyone want to play this game?

so excuse me for any of my activity but also for being new I stayed out of the mess I can see both sides and I can see ledgitment claims and some personal attacks. I thought i would stay out untill the fur stopped flying and I could figure out heads and tail whats going on.
so it looks like the past should be held in the past. cool so the game is back on, so cool , what am I suppose to do Claim is that the actual question being asked? what do I do for that? what ever you guy's want. but really does my reason sound like you should lynch me? weren't you new once? could you grasp everything at once especially like how this one started? I would please ask for a unvote from all of you.
P.S. let's not bring up the last 18 pages or respond or defend anything just let it die and let's move on from here. this is just my first post for a defense I'm not going to beat a dead horse. and Thank you Yomiel for at stepping out and asking if voting for me really a good idea.

so whats the next step?

[Campin_Killer]

Yomiel nice bandwagon. Add that to the list of reasons for a lynch

Chuck there was no personal attack. Everything I said was in fact true.

[thechuck51]

Yomiel nice bandwagon. Add that to the list of reasons for a lynch

Chuck there was no personal attack. Everything I said was in fact true.

I didn't say there were personal attacks. I said it was not "professional" and inflammatory. If you feel the need to discuss this further please do so via PM.

[Count Belisle]

whats bandwagoning? I still haven't figured out who to vote for yet. so when is the deadline to vote? I just want to wrap my head around this just a little more before casting my vote, is that allowed? so all votes were set to zero? so my last vote is out the window right? good I just threw a dart in the dark for that vote. I want to really get a good solid reason to vote someone. your all FOS to all of you still =)

[Count Belisle]

I'm going to my RL recovery meeting right now so I'll be back around 10pm PST

[samgrossy]

Remember that the roles were never changed. Only replacements were made, so any info you can glean from the first 18 pages or so is still valid.

Don't edit. I know you're new, but a general rule is to NEVER edit your posts

You're right. I was warned by the mod. My apologies, i was just correcting a typo from gleam to glean.

[thechuck51]

Vote Count 1.4

/ ( ) -
Campin Killer ( ) -
Count Belisle (1) - everywhere116
Jonty125 ( ) -
everywhere116 ( ) -
ShaggyDan (2) - /, Yomiel
Nebuchadnezer ( ) -
samgrossy (1) - Neb
yomiel (3) - Campin_Killer, samgrossy, ShaggyDan ~ L-2 ~

Not Voting - Count Belisle, Jonty125

if there are any errors in the vote count let me know.

with 9 alive it takes a 5 to lynch. Deadline is July 26th @ 10pm EST

[Nebuchadnezer]

Okay, you all seem frickin' scummy!

Yomiel - You start the game by saying that on day 1 "we should just go with our hunches" and "The most we can do is guess. And I'm guessing you." Yet, when that "guess" turns to you, you immediately clam up and refuse to claim. Terrible play. And yes, you put up a defense...A terrible defense based solely on meta. Yet you refuse to take any of this under consideration. Your play sucks. If you are the dam Doc, just claim it. I'm hoping we have someone that will save you...however, your crap play and refusal to claim will not save you at all. All your hints that you have a spectacular power role that should not be revealed will not save you. You have nothing left to do, but claim, and hope you get saved. Doc is the only role that I see balking...so just claim the dam doc, so we can move on. By not claiming, you only leave yourself all alone, but no player in his/her right mind would even bother with protecting/watching you. You're too damn disruptive to waste a night action on...unless we KNOW what your role is.

Campin - Ease up dude. It's a game. How many times do people have to tell you simply make your point, and leave it be. Leave the colorful metaphors out, please. Your reaction also has my suspicion. You've reacted exactly as scum would. Throw a fit. Curse a little. Stomp your feet. Seriously...between you and Yomiel, I can't tell which one is worse in this game.

If neither of you are mafia, you should be ashamed of your play. You've both drawn attention away from anything else possible in this game. You've monopolized and dictated the focus on this game so terribly, that scum is just hanging out laughing their asses off. Nice work. Be real proud.

After all this...I'll hold my vote until tomorrow...hoping Yomiel sees the light. If there is no claim when I log in again, I'll vote...hammer or not. I'd ask again, for you to claim, but it will fall on your deaf ears, and your blind eyes don't care to see what's happening here. Claim so we can get past your distraction, please.

Shaggy - Your posts seem off. I don't like them. I'd vote you, but two screw ups are ahead of you in line.

[Yomiel]

It was a personal attack and nothing but lies. As if that wasn't bad enough, Campin goes further by falsely claiming I'm bandwagoning. He's been doing stuff like this over and over. We need to kill either him or Shaggy.

Neb, I said we could only go with our hunches in that we had no way of being certain of everything when it was only the first Day. I was targeted largely by a handful of players with a grudge, who tacked on a reason that was not believable. I refused to claim on the first Day, especially when there was no real reason to, since there was no actual case against me. My play is NOT terrible. I have every right to defend myself from attacks, personal or game-related, especially when they are as serious and nasty as ones like in the post made earlier. Perhaps you should think more about voting the player who is actually being disruptive and playing poorly. The case against me is pathetic, and my defense is more than enough to prove it.

Actually, your post just doesn't sit right with me. Even though you seem to criticize both me and Campin, it is only me you want to "see the light", and you are demanding my claim when there is still no case against me and no reason for me to do so. You insult me over and over, and you are basically trying to threaten me into claiming. And then you claim I'm the only distraction. It's like you only mentioned Campin briefly for a reason... Maybe to take suspicion off of your Mafia buddy? I'm adding you to my list of suspects. If I die, I hope the Town gets wise and realizes their mistake.

Sam, you should unvote me and vote for someone else. They are trying to trick the Town into killing me, and it's a bad move.

[Count Belisle]

Vote Count Belisle to clear things up.

and on the exact same page, a few posts up

sorry guy's that I havent posted much yet.

RL has takin over for a bit , I havent caught up reading yet. I'm on page 10 of this thread. I will get caught up and post tonight sometime after 10PM PST.

thank you for understanding

wut.

and now you are bandwagoning yomiel...

shaggy is already skimming and vote hopping to every bandwagon, I find it suspect.
Unvote vote shaggy

and yomiel seems defensive of count besile, I say if yom flips scum, we pressure him next, and visa versa.

what is wut? what is flip scum? and how will you pressure me? this is my first games I'm learning on the fly. if you had read my response and still feel that I'm not being honest well what can I do? I did my best, I can't change the truth. I'm still holding on to my vote til I get a little more thought behind it. I think Yom is only defenseive of me because I think he / she really understands I'm new a really don't know what the heck is going on but it is starting to form some vage sense. so go ahead and pressure me I wouldn't have a clue you are doing it.

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It wasn't really directed at you, welcome to mafia Count Belisle.
wut is a joking way to say what, scum means a player is mafia, the people we are trying to get rid of, and who are secretly tryng to get rid of us.
I was simply commenting that shaggydan continued to add pressure calling for your response after the fact you had just posted you were busy and would post soon, thus it means he skimmed over or ignored your post, and attempted to go for the player a couple others were going for at the time, twice, which I view as a tell that he could be mafia.

if you want to know how to play basic mafia, this is a good tutorial
http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikebur ... scum04.swf

[Yomiel]

Count, you and Sam should both vote for Shaggy. Skimming is dangerous in a game like this.

[Count Belisle]

It wasn't really directed at you, welcome to mafia Count Belisle.
wut is a joking way to say what, scum means a player is mafia, the people we are trying to get rid of, and who are secretly tryng to get rid of us.
I was simply commenting that shaggydan continued to add pressure calling for your response after the fact you had just posted you were busy and would post soon, thus it means he skimmed over or ignored your post, and attempted to go for the player a couple others were going for at the time, twice, which I view as a tell that he could be mafia.

if you want to know how to play basic mafia, this is a good tutorial
http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikebur ... scum04.swf

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thank you for the help and I have not taken anything personal, I'm staying very objective right now, I would like to go to the link you just posted and read the tutorial first before even attempting to Vote or investigate right now but I will still monitor and post, just give me a moment to read the tutorial . Yom thank you for for helping out too and pointing out a reason to vote against shaggy, but I want to read this tutorial first and then I'll make a decision how I will vote . I want to do this right.

[Count Belisle]

did everywhere116 ever state why he wants to lynch me?

[Nebuchadnezer]

It was a personal attack and nothing but lies. As if that wasn't bad enough, Campin goes further by falsely claiming I'm bandwagoning. He's been doing stuff like this over and over. We need to kill either him or Shaggy.

Neb, I said we could only go with our hunches in that we had no way of being certain of everything when it was only the first Day. I was targeted largely by a handful of players with a grudge, who tacked on a reason that was not believable. I refused to claim on the first Day, especially when there was no real reason to, since there was no actual case against me. My play is NOT terrible. I have every right to defend myself from attacks, personal or game-related, especially when they are as serious and nasty as ones like in the post made earlier. Perhaps you should think more about voting the player who is actually being disruptive and playing poorly. The case against me is pathetic, and my defense is more than enough to prove it.

Actually, your post just doesn't sit right with me. Even though you seem to criticize both me and Campin, it is only me you want to "see the light", and you are demanding my claim when there is still no case against me and no reason for me to do so. You insult me over and over, and you are basically trying to threaten me into claiming. And then you claim I'm the only distraction. It's like you only mentioned Campin briefly for a reason... Maybe to take suspicion off of your Mafia buddy? I'm adding you to my list of suspects. If I die, I hope the Town gets wise and realizes their mistake.

Sam, you should unvote me and vote for someone else. They are trying to trick the Town into killing me, and it's a bad move.

The case on you started out weak. It was your reaction that made it worth while.

You really think I didn't target Campin at all in my post? Lol...you have a one track mind...very defensive, without reading my whole post.

On top of that, you are practically begging the other players to vote the same way you are. This seems very scummy. They will make up their mind. I've never actually seen somebody beg for votes until now. Scummy.

Vote Yomiel

You still refuse to claim, when I've explained it's your only option, if you actually want to stay alive and have people listen to you. If you are town, your goal is to help town. Claiming will help town. How do you NOT see this?

[Campin_Killer]

It was a personal attack and nothing but lies. As if that wasn't bad enough, Campin goes further by falsely claiming I'm bandwagoning. He's been doing stuff like this over and over. We need to kill either him or Shaggy.

Oh really? So as soon as someone else votes Shaggy and he got to 2 votes, you vote and put him at L-2 for no reason?

Count, you and Sam should both vote for Shaggy. Skimming is dangerous in a game like this.

Let people decide for themselves who to vote. Nobody elected you vote decider.