Endgame422 wrote:madmitch wrote:That is what I keep trying to tell everyone Mars, there was two kills and two killers and don't forget there was also a survivor which I don't think it matters.But the two killers worry me.
Patience mitch,if 2 people come up dead tomorrow you can worry. Even if there are going to be 2 kills what good does worrying do about it?
@Mars streaker defends you,then you pushed benga and streaker follows. Why does a town streaker do this?
His defense of you was based on basically nothing,now he could have been reading you town very early but idk how he could be so convinced so fast if he was town.
The lack of suspicion from streaker with very little evidence at that point is interesting,and then he follows your case on benga,which if benga as making a true omgus vote it would have been against mars when he originated the case but instead it went to streaker.
Let me get this straight, I wasn't specifically
defending mars, I was pointing out a flaw in wing's post. I see the connection you guys bring up, but I didn't notice it myself until it was layed out.
Everyone needs to have a clear look at endgame's posts, and see the resemblance with hp game. While it's usefull having him on our side, it's a bad bad idea having third party lead town.
benga wrote:most of his case on me comes cause I have joked too long, while he went aggro from the start
First part of my case on you was that you were reluctant to get to the point. It's a valid argument. You are saying you consider joking is better for town then scumhunting. Did you notice the part where I said that this part is actually ok, that I didn't see it as THAT scummy?
I also called you out for pushing me, based on a wrong interpretation of what I said. 'Gathering people for a lynch'? It's called making a case and pushing it. You think it's scummy.
Furthermore I called you out for your 'balancing act'. Not pushing too hard, but not laying low either.
The thing is, there really wasn't a very strong foundation for my push on you. You overreacted completely, and that only fueled it for me:
benga wrote:
well you gave me enough to vote streaker
first you wanting to gather up the lynch squad
2nd you really haven't produced anything useful other then just jumping from one guy to another
3rd and yes you are right, I shouldn't just try to lynch random guy, I should pursue someone who has been scummy to me from the start
Twisting my words, lying about my actions this game, and now I was scummy from the start? Based on what? Strong post, this is.
It gets worse:
benga wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Endgame422 wrote:
Buddying like this isnt what i would expect out of these 2 or really from any set of 2 players that are both town,especially on D1.
Are you guys reading each other town here? Id like both your opinions on each other.
Now I've said positive things about Mars and Streaker too, does that make me scum with them?
up to now you have been pretty much nice and dandy all the time
in your pink glasses no one is scum, you have redirected any lynch mention
since Streaker is so active in pushing others, now it would be good time to hear more from him
beeing aggressive doesn't take scummyness of him
most of his case on me comes cause I have joked too long, while he went aggro from the start
You are literally saying that I'm scummy because I am pushing cases. You may not have noticed this, but see how I managed to get attention away from the useless conversation about claims, and into an actual discussion that can be used now and later?
Don't want to overlook your second statement there, that you think I'm scummy because 'i went aggro' instead of joke voting.
It looks like the only 2 who are pushing against me are 1) my biggest scumread and 2) a claimed 3rd party.
benga wrote:Marashu wrote:
My opinion changes on Dakky practically every time he opens his mouth - I can't tell if he's scum or town, but I think we'll have a much clearer picture of him on D2. If he is scum, I would want to look closer at strike.
So you are basically saying we shouldn't lynch dakky until we have better picture in D2?
That's the same thing I said regarding dakky and End, as they have both made their claims.
I understand why my vote on Streaker is OMGUS, but as I stated from the start it was just my feeling about him.
If you go aggro, you have to be prepared to be challenged and as I was going thru his post, for every think he called me out
he was doing it the same or in greater manner.(He voted for 2 people and made couple of casees on others or does inconsistency refers to something else?)
I wasn't adding to discussion where I felt I have nothing to contribute, that's why I wanted to hear more about Mets.
The connection I found, being true or not, just caught my eye and seemed interesting to me.
streaker wrote:At this point I think there are 4 people going for my ass, so only thing is I ask don't hammer me before I have time to respond.
Okay just looked back and found some more gems.
So this is where it basically started. I didn't even push any case of him and started defending about nothing.
And he jumped on me out of nothing while there was heated debate about dakky, End, IB.
Does anyone notice the irony?
Streaker wrote:
Benga drew most attention, imo.
All of these one-liners are made in the joke-vote/dakky claim stage of the game. It's interesting he is not getting into the discussion, and refrains from making comments on the actual statements. But it's early, so ok.
benga wrote:TimWoodbury wrote:madmitch wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Streaker. Facts are irrelevant to my case against Mars. I built a nonsensical case against against a player who will give the case the respect it deserves, as he has done.
Mars, the more we discuss Dakky the more he will reveal. There is nothing left for him to say. Dakky isnt going to keep a charade of pretending to be vig whilst sk/mafia going for long, so not important D1. Hence, lets move on.
Then why not unvote him? other votes that make no sense: Tim >Dakky scum in last game .END>PCM his name. Streaker>Virus % read.Benga >Tim being a major?? only one to make sense is Marashu. Benga's post make no sense and has no help to the game. We also badly need to here from PCM and Mets, so I will
VOTE METS to see if I can get any reaction out of him.
i do bealive thats why its called JVS (joke vote stage) you place votes that are purley joking or a sarcastic vote you shold know that by now mitch seems odd you think those was legit votes??
wow somebody got it!
if I took any of these for real, then I would be interested in streaker
Streaker wrote:Just to be clear, I'm not particularly interested in lynching dakky at this point, more in other's opinions on wether or not to lynch dakky.
Interesting to note, it seems only wing is trying to stop this bleed of rolefishing.
Virus was only interested in the % that dakky used, nothing else.
he even admits he is gathering people for lynch
This is his first serious post (in which he wrongly reads I am gathering people for a lynch), but it's the semi-push on me that got my attention, because there is absolutely no follow-up to this post at all.
benga wrote:madmitch wrote:Nice to hear from you PCM, your post was insightful I also agree with you about Mets post that is why I did not unvote him yet. Dakky is just being Dakky , I played with him in a few games and he can get under your skin , but I also believed he soft claimed by mistake and wants to back paddle and start again.
what's your case on Mets?
unvote
Instead of following up, he decides it's time to start questioning mitch, of all players. It all feels very much like stalling while keeping middle ground not bumping on anyone's toe's.
Virus also completely afk, so nothing to go on except that last game he pulled this, he was scum.
fp'd by wing
I honestly don't know what benga wants to achieve with this post. A random quote where I say something about 4 people on my ass. I don't even recall making that post, and it contributes nothing.
Now you want to point out that I succesfully switched conversation from the EXTREMELY detrimental discussion with dakky, to an actual scumhunt. And you use it as a case on me? Oh yes, the irony.
I liked the latest posts from ptlowe, so I will not be persuing that today anymore.