Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN (archive plz)

[Streaker]

As the town of Robertville wakes up, they discover that the most recent member has died already!
Who in their right minds would pick on newcomers like this, is what everyone is wondering.

Razorvich, VT has died!

D2 begins now, you have 7 days to deadline. Deadline October 15th, 03.00 CC Time.
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

(Note on colours: I'm not very consistent with colours, but everything that is not red = town in this game).

[rizky_biznezz]

Ouch... that's not good.. Here we go again

[bosaardbeitje]

Could be worse... I am curious what Tim has to tell us.

[TimWoodbury]

okay so 7 of us alive we KNOW 2 o those 7 are skum. i know i am town and i KNOW boss is town. thats leaves 3 people to look at. as i said before either boss or skw dies tonight and i know boss is town so vote skw this goes back to us being suspicious o there back to back votes on streak looking to odd.

[Epitaph1]

okay so 7 of us alive we KNOW 2 o those 7 are skum. i know i am town and i KNOW boss is town. thats leaves 3 people to look at. as i said before either boss or skw dies tonight and i know boss is town so vote skw this goes back to us being suspicious o there back to back votes on streak looking to odd.

You might as well say that you're the cop and got an innocent result on boss.

[bosaardbeitje]

Why did you decide to investigate me and not somebody else?

[ptlowe]

IM really suspicious of Tim. Why would the mafia not kill him night one if hes claiming cop. None of this makes sense. Then his hammer on aage with still 15 hours remaining..........

Then there is bos asking him to report and then he reporting shes safe.......Is he trying to get on her good side now.....Thats way to blatant for them to be partnering I think.

Why the razor kill. He didnt even have any real concrete subjects. None of this makes sense....

[ptlowe]

Now if I vote aage... he is dead... without the opportunity to claim in this late hour to save his ass.

As I am still getting things together, I think it would be unfair for my vote to send him out without hearing a claim.

My scum-o-meter is tending to the following:

bosaardbeitje - some good crafted responses... and lots of them too... too many?
aage - anyone could read the setups and make the obvious assumptions concerning cops/doctors, so not convinced.
Tim - may have let us know that there is something to come in the next few days... if you survive the night Tim.. I will expect some substance, or you shoot to No 1
Epitaph1 - Voted for me after my first "hello" post... trying to deflect attention?.... not sure yet

and then there is Rizky

1st mafia... granted.. playing the Noob?... maybe.
But I know how smart this sucker is.. high on my scum-o-meter right now

I will give aage a few hours of grace, and will revisit this before I go to sleep tonight

This might be why he was killed night one but a few of us had hard cases on Tim early...

[madmitch]

why am I still alive? Tim are you claiming cop role,or are you bluffing

[Epitaph1]

Tim, what exactly was your result? As in, how was it worded--this might make a difference, I'll explain after you answer.

[the white rose]

excuse me for sticking my nose in here but i have been following this from the start.

Tim claims to have a PR, therefore why was he not killed on the first night?

It is possible that Tim could be cop, in which case you need to keep him in the game. If he is not cop, then he surely is scum...but rather than risk lynching the cop, i would lynch boss, if he turns out to be scum then surely tim must be also, if boss is town then i would believe tim's claim and ask the doctor to save him tonight

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Hello White Rose,

I like everyone else enjoy reading mafia games, but its not fair to post your thoughts unless you are involved in the game. However, should you wish to play please feel free to sign up to other games in the forum! New players are always welcome.

Its best to save posts such as yours to the end of the game, when everyone is reviewing how the game went, otherwise we'll end up with everyone giving their opinion on who is town and mafia without being involved in the game.

WCG

[ptlowe]

excuse me for sticking my nose in here but i have been following this from the start.

Tim claims to have a PR, therefore why was he not killed on the first night?

It is possible that Tim could be cop, in which case you need to keep him in the game. If he is not cop, then he surely is scum...but rather than risk lynching the cop, i would lynch boss, if he turns out to be scum then surely tim must be also, if boss is town then i would believe tim's claim and ask the doctor to save him tonight

I disagree with this argument. I still feel boss is town. Scum knows who all of the townies are sooo....if Tim is just pretending he would be right on boss without much difficulty and then we mark him off our list of suspects while he kills a bunch of people...gotta go strictly on people actions and review words or we lose.

[bosaardbeitje]

@ the white rose, whose multi are you? I don't appreciate that you are asking people to lynch me

[Epitaph1]

@White Rose, what WCG said. Sign up for one of our upcoming games!

[TimWoodbury]

IM really suspicious of Tim. Why would the mafia not kill him night one if hes claiming cop. None of this makes sense. Then his hammer on aage with still 15 hours remaining..........

Then there is bos asking him to report and then he reporting shes safe.......Is he trying to get on her good side now.....Thats way to blatant for them to be partnering I think.

Why the razor kill. He didnt even have any real concrete subjects. None of this makes sense....

this is actually the same thing i asking im thinking they didnt kill me because it would be the obvious thing to do and yes im the cop figure that much is obvious. maybe they was hopeing i would come up with a town read on my inspection , of witch i did and yall would make there job that much eaisear by lynchig me d2 not bealiveing me due to boss already saying before that i needed to die today if i gave nothing thus why i investigated her instead of SKW

[TimWoodbury]

Tim, what exactly was your result? As in, how was it worded--this might make a difference, I'll explain after you answer.

as you know i cant quote it and cant post a pic but it more or less says i investigated boss and descover she is town

@mitch yes heck d1 i was practly saying i expected to die n1 and was saying i have PR

and as everyone is asking why not kill me i think i was the obvious kill im thinking since they didnt role block me they have no role block thus means they are pure vanilla that means im the only PR. so expect me dead n2 unless they got a block and blloced someone else ive not a clue im confused as to why im not dead

[Streaker]

excuse me for sticking my nose in here but i have been following this from the start.

Tim claims to have a PR, therefore why was he not killed on the first night?

It is possible that Tim could be cop, in which case you need to keep him in the game. If he is not cop, then he surely is scum...but rather than risk lynching the cop, i would lynch boss, if he turns out to be scum then surely tim must be also, if boss is town then i would believe tim's claim and ask the doctor to save him tonight

If you go to a tennis match, and one of the players decides to make a cheeky lob-play instead of the obvious smash that wins the point, do you barge onto the tennis course and start a discussion with the player(s)?

I do not appreciate your interference with an ongoing game, it's simply bad sport.
But as everyone is saying above, if you want to play, sign up for the games that are taking players. And thank you for your interest.

To all my players, please completely ignore that post and any discussion that my come from it. Thank you.

[the white rose]

no, but as a spectator i may comment on it, and may even become partisan.

but more akin to this game, if the police were looking for a murderer and i had my suspicions i would tell them what i thought.

Having said that, being new to your form of mafia, I was unaware that this was frowned upon and meant no offence. Please try and refrain from being nasty, after all, it is only a game.....

I will keep quiet now...enjoy your game.

[Streaker]

no, but as a spectator i may comment on it, and may even become partisan.

but more akin to this game, if the police were looking for a murderer and i had my suspicions i would tell them what i thought.

Having said that, being new to your form of mafia, I was unaware that this was frowned upon and meant no offence. Please try and refrain from being nasty, after all, it is only a game.....

I will keep quiet now...enjoy your game.

I am not being nasty, I am explaining the situation to you. This is indeed a game, and only the players in get to play.
As a spectator, you get to read, NOT comment on it and NOT become part of it.
I am the moderator of this game, and it's my job to be 'firm' when things like this happen.

I'm glad you understand the rules now, and hope to see you in the upcoming games

[bosaardbeitje]

Back to the game.

@ Tim, if you wanted to convince me you're a cop, you did a poor job. You only told me something I already know, so you haven't provided any useful information to me. Why not investigate one of my town reads or scum reads? Also, why not think about the bigger picture? Most people already assume I am safe, so it would have been better for Town to investigate someone else.

I am still thinking about the psychology, reverse psychology and reverse-reverse psychology behind all of this I think the mafia killed Razor, because it doesn't tell us anything, he had what? 5 suspects? I think they did us a favour there.

[bosaardbeitje]

EBWOP Also, if there is a cop, please don't counterclaim, until we made our mind up about the following steps...

[Epitaph1]

no, but as a spectator i may comment on it, and may even become partisan.

but more akin to this game, if the police were looking for a murderer and i had my suspicions i would tell them what i thought.

Having said that, being new to your form of mafia, I was unaware that this was frowned upon and meant no offence. Please try and refrain from being nasty, after all, it is only a game.....

I will keep quiet now...enjoy your game.

I am not being nasty, I am explaining the situation to you. This is indeed a game, and only the players in get to play.
As a spectator, you get to read, NOT comment on it and NOT become part of it.
I am the moderator of this game, and it's my job to be 'firm' when things like this happen.

I'm glad you understand the rules now, and hope to see you in the upcoming games

Guys, take this to pm. Please.

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Tim claims cop and that he got a result of town. So, these are the two possible setups if Tim is being truthful:

(a) 1 Mafia Goons, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies
(b) 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies

(a) Either the mafia tries to kill Tim or they roleblock him since he was pretty clear that he had a PR on D1. He's still alive and claims he got a town result. It is possible that the mafia tried using their RB and NK on other people, hoping to find the doc and knowing that Tim would draw a lot of scrutiny. However, I find this unlikely. A cop is a major threat to the mafia and they would have tried to do something to take away his power.

(b) The mafia would have known that Tim is cop and he would have been their #1 target yet again. Under this scenario, the mafia know there isn't a doctor, so they would have free reign to take him out.

The only reason I can see Tim being alive if he's town is if the mafia thought they could frame him. He hinted at a PR on D1 and leaving him unmolested throughout the night seems like a giant risk if you're the mafia. Under either setup, he's either getting killed or RB'd--I just don't see how the mafia would let him go untouched.

Plus, you throw in the hammer with plenty of time left and other shenanigans from D1, and it's looking pretty bad for Tim. I'm going re-read some of D1 to see if he played favorites with anyone.

[bosaardbeitje]

How likely do you think it is that the Mafia didn't do anything about Tim, because they hope we will take out our cop now and they get to kill another Townie at night? I am not saying that I believe that's the case, I am still trying to work it out. If that's what they are up to, than we only have 3 Townies left on day 3, which would be extremely bad.

[rizky_biznezz]

i have a question before i can put together thoughts on all of this...

if tim is telling the truth and he is a cop does he get to find out new information every night or does he only get to do that once?

i think im with you bos... i dont think we can chance it.. if he is telling the truth and he gets to find out new info every night well they will kill him anyway they cant risk us finding out more info so if he survives another night it might tell us a little something... but then who do we vote..