Cat. Mafia Pain Killer & Kwanton WIN

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:30 pm

hammer time

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:21 pm

No explanation yet? Look I'm going to the movies tonight. That's your deadline red bull. If nothing happens by the time I head out I'm gonna hammer.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:36 pm

They make a good case, we don't need you and you could betray us.

Vote: Red Bull

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:58 pm

New deadline is Tuesday at 5pm CST

Vote Count 8 needed for lynch
1 Fircoal (Exile, )

kwanton
ga7
PancakeMix
mandalorian2298
Balsiefen
skoffin
Aimless
firth4eva
cmckinney
The1Exile
Koesen
Pain Killer
spinwizard

Dead
Chad22342 (UNKNOWN TIL NIGHT 1) 9 VOTES (Pancake, red bull, Aimless, Koesen, Pain Killer,Fircoal, ga7, kwanton,Spin ) (firth's and skoffin's vote came too late)
red bull (UNKNOWN TIL NIGHT 1) 8 VOTES (ga7, Mandy, Aimless, skoffin.Firth, Balsiefen, Koesen, Fircoal )
0oJakeo0 Votes 9 (LSUTigerJosh aka MODKILL)

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:00 pm

vote No Lynch To end this day. Two blind kills are enough.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:01 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:vote No Lynch To end this day. Two blind kills are enough.

QFT!

Vote: NO Lynch

Unless anyone argees with me, on Balsiefan.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:04 pm

Fircoal wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:vote No Lynch To end this day. Two blind kills are enough.
QFT!

Vote: NO Lynch

Unless anyone argees with me, on Balsiefan.

Jeez I wanted to get more info out of him before the hammer. He said he had an idea on who was scum. Any leads would be good at this point. Well either way we got an anti-town.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:05 pm

vote no lynch

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:15 pm

kwanton wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:vote No Lynch To end this day. Two blind kills are enough.
QFT!

Vote: NO Lynch

Unless anyone argees with me, on Balsiefan.
Jeez I wanted to get more info out of him before the hammer. He said he had an idea on who was scum. Any leads would be good at this point. Well either way we got an anti-town.

Sorry, forgot about that, I just thought that we decided that he wasn't of use, and that he'd be lynched anyway.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:43 pm

I don't see why we should go no-lynch. FOS Mandy
We didn't get 2 blind kills. We got 1 SK. I don't see why we should prematurely end the day while we can still try to catch scum since we know one of our lynches is good.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:58 pm

ga7 wrote:I don't see why we should go no-lynch. FOS Mandy
We didn't get 2 blind kills. We got 1 SK. I don't see why we should prematurely end the day while we can still try to catch scum since we know one of our lynches is good.

Alright.

unvote
vote ga7

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:01 pm

I think we should lynch one more, for the reasons I've previously stated.

I'm not sure who, though, yet. Time for me to go looking for clues.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:05 pm

It would help if you were actually putting a case together Exile

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:14 pm

ga7 wrote:It would help if you were actually putting a case together Exile

It would help if you were explaining why 2 blind kills and an SK is better than one blind kill.

The night always brings more info. On day 1, we're lynching without any real evidence of behaviour.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:27 pm

I think Aimless made a fairly convincing case for three lynches, so for now, I'm with him.

Question: do the mafia get more kills than usual too?

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:33 pm

Exile, I agree we'll get info in the night and all, but why hurry anyway? There's a deadline, if we don't find nothing convincing we don't _have_ to lynch. Aimless made a good point, but I'm not willing to lynch randomly either. There's no reason to rush into the night though.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:35 pm

(Besides I'm sure there were frustrated scum in this no lynch votes. Let's frustrate them more. Mwahahaha

)

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:45 pm

I think that even if the numbers are in our favor, 3 might be a little bit too much. I don't want a random lynch. I say if you want a lynch put up some proof, because right now the only person, I'd feel confortable with lynching is Balsiefan.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:54 pm

ga7 wrote:Exile, I agree we'll get info in the night and all, but why hurry anyway? There's a deadline, if we don't find nothing convincing we don't _have_ to lynch. Aimless made a good point, but I'm not willing to lynch randomly either. There's no reason to rush into the night though.

Well, in catastrophe mafia it's generally a good idea.

The longer days take (especially if they drag on to an ever extended deadline) the less interest there will be in the game, thus the less townies will pay attention, thus mafia are more likely to win.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:57 pm

Koesen wrote:I think Aimless made a fairly convincing case for three lynches, so for now, I'm with him.

Question: do the mafia get more kills than usual too?

Judging from Rig's game, they get one kill, but there is many killer roles (multiple mafias, SK, vig) and a few players so it's a blood bath. This is why I voted No Lynch - there is no telling how many Night deaths there will be.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:58 pm

That's a weird logic. Everyone has been posting after Chad's lynch (except maybe Cmckinney who seems to be gone again) so I suppose we're not gonna run out of activity anytime soon. If it does happen in the next days, ok I'll vote no lynch. Not right after a lynch.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:46 pm

you guys forgot about my skills as a vig

whyyyyyy FOUR MAFIA HITSSSSS PEOPLE AS VIG!!!!! some of you are too young here to know about it

any way i really did want to help the town and when i thought i could no longer help i was going to vote my self ... oh well... GL TOWN that killed me

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:32 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Koesen wrote:I think Aimless made a fairly convincing case for three lynches, so for now, I'm with him.

Question: do the mafia get more kills than usual too?
Judging from Rig's game, they get one kill, but there is many killer roles (multiple mafias, SK, vig) and a few players so it's a blood bath. This is why I voted No Lynch - there is no telling how many Night deaths there will be.

I'm not seeing a connection here at all. By what reasoning does the likelihood of multiple night kills imply that it is a good idea for the town not to leverage their ability to lynch as many people as they wish?

Frankly, mandy, you'd better have a good explanation for this one, because right now it looks scummy as hell to me.

I suspect that the night is going to be a blood bath (although slightly cleaner with red bull gone); that's why I think it's a good idea for the town to lynch early and lynch often. Get as much information during the day as possible, narrow down who might be scum as much as we can, and hopefully this game will only go to night once - maybe twice.

The only people I can see as benefiting from the game going to night are scum.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:48 pm

Aimless wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Koesen wrote:I think Aimless made a fairly convincing case for three lynches, so for now, I'm with him.

Question: do the mafia get more kills than usual too?
Judging from Rig's game, they get one kill, but there is many killer roles (multiple mafias, SK, vig) and a few players so it's a blood bath. This is why I voted No Lynch - there is no telling how many Night deaths there will be.
I'm not seeing a connection here at all. By what reasoning does the likelihood of multiple night kills imply that it is a good idea for the town not to leverage their ability to lynch as many people as they wish?

Frankly, mandy, you'd better have a good explanation for this one, because right now it looks scummy as hell to me.

I suspect that the night is going to be a blood bath (although slightly cleaner with red bull gone); that's why I think it's a good idea for the town to lynch early and lynch often. Get as much information during the day as possible, narrow down who might be scum as much as we can, and hopefully this game will only go to night once - maybe twice.

The only people I can see as benefiting from the game going to night are scum.

My reasoning is that Day 1 lynching is a lottery. By all means, let's pull and Inquisition on Day 2 (I'm not a Survivor, and those of you who are: tough luck!

). But, let us first give a Cop one chance to investigate, let's allow Night-kills to tell us something: let's get some info before we go on a lynching spree.
On a compleately separate and purely speculative note, you wouldn't happen to be a SK, Aim?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:30 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Aimless wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Koesen wrote:I think Aimless made a fairly convincing case for three lynches, so for now, I'm with him.

Question: do the mafia get more kills than usual too?
Judging from Rig's game, they get one kill, but there is many killer roles (multiple mafias, SK, vig) and a few players so it's a blood bath. This is why I voted No Lynch - there is no telling how many Night deaths there will be.
I'm not seeing a connection here at all. By what reasoning does the likelihood of multiple night kills imply that it is a good idea for the town not to leverage their ability to lynch as many people as they wish?

Frankly, mandy, you'd better have a good explanation for this one, because right now it looks scummy as hell to me.

I suspect that the night is going to be a blood bath (although slightly cleaner with red bull gone); that's why I think it's a good idea for the town to lynch early and lynch often. Get as much information during the day as possible, narrow down who might be scum as much as we can, and hopefully this game will only go to night once - maybe twice.

The only people I can see as benefiting from the game going to night are scum.
My reasoning is that Day 1 lynching is a lottery. By all means, let's pull and Inquisition on Day 2 (I'm not a Survivor, and those of you who are: tough luck! ). But, let us first give a Cop one chance to investigate, let's allow Night-kills to tell us something: let's get some info before we go on a lynching spree.
On a compleately separate and purely speculative note, you wouldn't happen to be a SK, Aim?

That was Red Bull.

I argee with Mandy, let's get a basis for our killing spree.

But also if the SK is gone the vig is smart and no kills, and there is only one mafia, wouldn't that be a 1 kill?