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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:58 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
So basically Mandy is implying that either himself or Koesen is scum?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:16 pm
by kwanton
unvote
wikipedia wrote:When Sylar first meets Chandra Suresh six months prior to the series' starting point, he is described as having "intuitive aptitude", the ability to know how things work by looking at them. This ability to see and manipulate patterns within complex systems made him an expert at restoring time pieces. He was able to discern any problems, with any given watch, almost instantly. He later uses this ability to locate the source of the power in the brain of his victims, enabling him to steal their abilities. Upon meeting Brian Davis and learning of his telekinetic abilities, Sylar promises to "fix" what Davis perceived as a problem and kills him, taking his telekinetic powers for himself.
It sounds like mr. bad can figure out what powers a person has.....
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:31 pm
by wicked
There's the possibility there's the same role both pro-town and pro-scum. Keep that in mind.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:40 pm
by Koesen
mandalorian2298 wrote:
This is like SUCH a coincidence! You see, I too can detect people's powers. And alligments (well, sort of. If I choose the wrong dude, I die). And roles.
But wait, there's more! When I investigate someone, that person learns my role. And can confirm it in the game (stand by for conformation, x).
With this in mind, I would like to add: lynch Koesen!
Again, you talk a lot and you prove nothing.
Why are you so hell bent on lynching me without proof? Are you afraid?
Would you like to trade names?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:09 pm
by mandalorian2298
Koesen wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:
This is like SUCH a coincidence! You see, I too can detect people's powers. And alligments (well, sort of. If I choose the wrong dude, I die). And roles.
But wait, there's more! When I investigate someone, that person learns my role. And can confirm it in the game (stand by for conformation, x).
With this in mind, I would like to add: lynch Koesen!
Again, you talk a lot and you prove nothing.
Why are you so hell bent on lynching me without proof? Are you afraid?
Would you like to trade names?
I don't mind if I do. Of course, I don't intend to trade my own name.

However, I will trade you this name: Jnd!
Jnd, would you please tell the nice people what happened during last night (you know, the message about you being investigated by the your friendly neighbourhood Mandalorian

).
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:10 pm
by Koesen
Of course you're not giving your own name. That would be real information.
Since I told you the exact results of my investigation of jnd, would you mind telling me yours?
By the way, I don't die just by targetting the wrong person. Nor do they learn about my role.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:18 pm
by kwanton
Hrm. I know one of the names involved and has an assumption on the other one. Either way the chances of one of these two being scum are pretty high.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:36 pm
by Koesen
I would have really liked to stay anonymous a few more days, but Mandalorian's witchhunt makes it impossible. Since I fear I have revealed enough already to become a target for tonight's kill, I'm going to give you the rest of my role.
I am Peter Petrelli. I discover people's powers because I can copy them. If I visit them, I can do what they do. If I acquire the powers of person A and use those powers to target person B, I will acquire person B's powers as well (while still carrying out person A's powers).
I don't think anyone who takes a look at Petrelli's Wikipedia page will doubt that he is town. If any of you lot wishes to counterclaim, bring it on. You'll be the next to die.
Combining Mandy's nonsensical witchhunt with jnd's proven ability to survive a lynch, I visited jnd last night, hoping to buy myself some extra time to look at people.
I was told jnd had an extra life, and that I now had one too. Unfortunately, somebody attempted to kill me last night, so the extra life came and went in the same post. Now I am back to one life. Lynch me, and I'm gone forever. Nightkill me, and the same happens.
I therefore ask anybody with protective abilities to protect me. If I survive long enough, I can win this game all by myself. For town, because that's the side I'm on.
If I die tonight, blame Mandy for screwing up (I actually still assume he's his usual badly misguided townie).
If I survive, I'll share the results of my actions first thing every morning. It will provide town with a ton of information.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:43 pm
by wicked
I think Mandy's telling the truth. Kozy's claim is convenient, but is it believable? I'm still on the fence.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:51 pm
by Koesen
Peter Petrelli is a major character in the show. He will be in this game, he will be powerful and he will be town.
I dare people to counterclaim, because it will be suicide.
If you can investigate me, do so.
And if I'm lynched without a counterclaim or an investigation, town deserves to have it's ass whipped.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:35 pm
by Koesen
Some people are very quiet today.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:51 pm
by kwanton
I believe him.
He claimed a very prominent character and the power makes sense. He could fabricate it if he were familiar with the show but if there is no counterclaim then I will believe him. If he is lying though the real petrelli should come forth as it will lead to the death of scum in an 8 player game.
Just to put out an alternate view on things:
Sylar is not mafia but an overpowered SK and the mafia is actually the company. Any thoughts on this?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:58 pm
by freezie
To me, it sounds exactly like Syler's power, according to JND's theory..
I am not familliar to the show, but I won't vote him for now..
It's not the first time Mandy pulls a trick like that, so ehh...Let's see what JND has to say about this.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:12 pm
by kwanton
freezie wrote:To me, it sounds exactly like Syler's power, according to JND's theory..
I am not familliar to the show, but I won't vote him for now..
It's not the first time Mandy pulls a trick like that, so ehh...Let's see what JND has to say about this.
Peter Petrelli is supposed to be some kind of counter to sylar if memory serves. His power is to use the powers of those he's come in contact with.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:14 pm
by jnd94
Yes, Mandy, I can confirm your town-ness. I don't want to reveal your whole role, but I know it, and I will back you up.
Now, onto the part where I prove Koesen wrong.

He says that he can "visit" one person during the night and learn their role. To me, that can only resemble 3 characters. Syler, the mafia, Mohinder Suresh, probably the most important townie, and Peter Petrelli, Koesen's claim. Let me explain a little more in depth:
Syler: By killing a hero, can "aquire" their power. Whoever Syler is can also probably investigate one person each night, and learn thier role.
I think Koesen is Syler becuase of many things. (1: He is completely going wacko on Mandy, who is only tring to help the town. (2: His claim just doesn't make sense. This is wikipedia's shortened version of Peter Petrelli's power:
wiki on Pete Petrelli wrote:with the power to absorb and mimic the powers of other evolved humans
Koesen claims that he can vist people and learn their role, but the 2 don't connect. I would expect Peter Petrelli to be a jack-of all trades, and whoever he visits, he gets their power, in a condensed version. I would expect Syler just to "visit" a player, learn their role, and kill them the next night.
I had more ideas, but forogt some. They make come back to me

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:54 am
by mandalorian2298
kwanton wrote:freezie wrote:To me, it sounds exactly like Syler's power, according to JND's theory..
I am not familliar to the show, but I won't vote him for now..
It's not the first time Mandy pulls a trick like that, so ehh...Let's see what JND has to say about this.
Peter Petrelli is supposed to be some kind of counter to sylar if memory serves. His power is to use the powers of those he's come in contact with.
This is interesting.
Unvote
Do you have such power (power to copy those that Syler has contacted), Koesen?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:17 am
by wicked
jnd94 wrote:wiki on Pete Petrelli wrote:with the power to absorb and mimic the powers of other evolved humans
Koesen claims that he can vist people and learn their role, but the 2 don't connect. I would expect Peter Petrelli to be a jack-of all trades, and whoever he visits, he gets their power
Umm, isn't that what Kozy said he could do? Absorb another's power?

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:16 am
by Koesen
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Do you have such power (power to copy those that Syler has contacted), Koesen?
The power of Petrelli, i.e. mine, is not to copy the power of people that Sylar visited, but the people Petrelli visited himself. So the answer to your question is no.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:22 am
by Koesen
wicked wrote:jnd94 wrote:wiki on Pete Petrelli wrote:with the power to absorb and mimic the powers of other evolved humans
Koesen claims that he can vist people and learn their role, but the 2 don't connect. I would expect Peter Petrelli to be a jack-of all trades, and whoever he visits, he gets their power
Umm, isn't that what Kozy said he could do? Absorb another's power?

That is indeed exactly what I said I can do and what I can do. If Person A is a cop and I visit him, I gain cop powers. If I use those cop powers on Person B the next night, I get the same investigation result Person A would have gotten AND I gain Person B's powers too.
If I live, my powers will snowball and I think town will desperately need that.
Admittedly, there appears to be a minor limit to my copying abilities: last night I visited jnd and I didn't turn into a vegetable.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:02 pm
by Koesen
jnd94 wrote: I think Koesen is Syler becuase of many things. (1: He is completely going wacko on Mandy, who is only tring to help the town. (2: His claim just doesn't make sense.
* Two things is not
many.
* Mandy called for my lynch at least nine times. I fossed him once. And I'm the one that's going wacko?
* My claim makes complete sense. As you would know if you had bothered to read it. It is, in fact, quite close to what you say it should be.
Do you have any more
things to throw at me?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:34 pm
by mandalorian2298
Koesen wrote:jnd94 wrote: I think Koesen is Syler becuase of many things. (1: He is completely going wacko on Mandy, who is only tring to help the town. (2: His claim just doesn't make sense.
* Mandy called for my lynch at least nine times. I fossed him once. And I'm the one that's going wacko?
Relax Koesen. There is at least one person who wants to kill you more then I do. Right LSU?

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:36 pm
by mandalorian2298
BTW, I think that you should visit me tonight. After that, you can use my power on me or Jnd to confirm your inocence.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:44 pm
by mandalorian2298
wicked wrote:I'm not following Mandy's logic either, which is not surprising.
OMG, I totaly missed this because of my obsessing over Koesan!
Wicked is 'not following'. C'mon veterans, what does that tell us?
Vote Wicked
Fos Exile for submarrining
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:45 pm
by Koesen
I've been thinking about that, but I'm not sure.
It sounds like I'll gain a weaker version of my own power with an ability to die if I target scum. It would be day four by the time you'd be able to confirm my story, and by then, the game may be over.
Why don't you target me instead?
And why does LSU want me dead more than you?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:01 pm
by kalishnikov
So now this omnipotent bad guy knows who you guys are and what powers you have, in addition to being completely undetected. I really doubt that any of you three (mando, Koesen or jnd) are him. None of you are playing like the Big Scum.
Is it just me or does jnd seem a tad anxious to protect/reaffirm mandalorian's role? Which also makes me wonder, can this Sylar guy recruit?
And I doubt also that wicked is scum, I think that would be too predictable and even if nag did the roles random and it came up to give Sylar to her, he wouldn't because we'd all expect that she was. Thats just a guess though, I could very well be wrong.