Conquer Club

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm not cult. As I stated before, if someone is not scum and I pick them they change their "power" for that night. The following night unless I pick them again, they will be back to their same old power. The reasoning behind it is that as the director I have access to create a super agent. If anyone wants to claim to have been changed during the night, we will possibly have a confirmed townie. If the wrong person claims though then we have an easy lynch barring a bus driver role.

Oh, really? Then whats your explanation for the fact that there has only been one nightkill the whole game? My role didn't change either, by the way.

Mine did not change.

no change

ace1217 wrote:Oh, really? Then whats your explanation for the fact that there has only been one nightkill the whole game? My role didn't change either, by the way.

We were dealing with a cult: Stroop was their recruiter. As Talapus mentioned, we almost certainly have a doctor. No other town power roles have claimed, so LSU is the person to attack and protect.

In contrast, voting for a player who has secured two mafiosi makes no sense at all. Unfortunately, I know this is standard for you; but - in absence of a stronger case - I vote for ace1217. Pmchugh did accuse Talapus but that is WiFoM. For my money, I hope LSU targeted him last night.

/ did not pm me.

no change for me either

No change. Ace's idea of two cults is wayyyyyyy too far-fetched.

no change

Will the ones that have not stated whether their role changed or not please post to state if they did or not?

The following people are alive and have yet to post if their role changed last night or not. Please do so and then I will reveal who I targeted among those that claimed already as well as those that haven't.

1. Hologram
8. Suspect101 i love risk
10.Skittles! ace1217
17. Fircoal
18. Talapus

EBWOP

The following people are alive and have yet to post if their role changed last night or not. Please do so and then I will reveal who I targeted among those that claimed already as well as those that haven't.

1. Hologram
8. Suspect101 i love risk
17. Fircoal
18. Talapus

Mod can you please prod the four people listed below.

Thanks

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:EBWOP

The following people are alive and have yet to post if their role changed last night or not. Please do so and then I will reveal who I targeted among those that claimed already as well as those that haven't.

1. Hologram
8. Suspect101 i love risk
17. Fircoal
18. Talapus

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Mod can you please prod the four people listed below.

Thanks

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:EBWOP

The following people are alive and have yet to post if their role changed last night or not. Please do so and then I will reveal who I targeted among those that claimed already as well as those that haven't.

1. Hologram
8. Suspect101 i love risk
17. Fircoal
18. Talapus

Wow, slightly premature in my opinion. I just posted half a page ago and you want me prodded? Ummmmmmm.....ok. Anyway, if my roll had changed I would have said something before now.

Vote Talapus He actually was the one I sent it to Nzen just from the way that our last scum tried to throw him under the bus.

Talapus wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Mod can you please prod the four people listed below.

Thanks

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:EBWOP

The following people are alive and have yet to post if their role changed last night or not. Please do so and then I will reveal who I targeted among those that claimed already as well as those that haven't.

1. Hologram
8. Suspect101 i love risk
17. Fircoal
18. Talapus

Wow, slightly premature in my opinion. I just posted half a page ago and you want me prodded? Ummmmmmm.....ok. Anyway, if my roll had changed I would have said something before now.

It had been going on 3 days since you last posted and you hadn't clarified if your role changed or not which is what I really wanted to find out.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Talapus He actually was the one I sent it to Nzen just from the way that our last scum tried to throw him under the bus.

That was WiFOM, actually, and talapus isn't guilty of anything.

ace1217 wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Talapus He actually was the one I sent it to Nzen just from the way that our last scum tried to throw him under the bus.

That was WiFOM, actually, and talapus isn't guilty of anything.

proof either way?

ace1217 wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:I'm not cult. As I stated before, if someone is not scum and I pick them they change their "power" for that night. The following night unless I pick them again, they will be back to their same old power. The reasoning behind it is that as the director I have access to create a super agent. If anyone wants to claim to have been changed during the night, we will possibly have a confirmed townie. If the wrong person claims though then we have an easy lynch barring a bus driver role.

Oh, really? Then whats your explanation for the fact that there has only been one nightkill the whole game? My role didn't change either, by the way.

strokem1257 wrote:

ace1217 wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Talapus He actually was the one I sent it to Nzen just from the way that our last scum tried to throw him under the bus.

That was WiFOM, actually, and talapus isn't guilty of anything.

proof either way?

Yea ace, you really need to put some more thought into your accusations, they are really thin. I'm up for listening though, tell us why ya think that?

Ok, looks like its time to claim: I am Colonel John Casey. I am working with Chuck, and I was working with the deceased lovo. Furthermore, I am the one who ordered the killing of Stroop, which took down a recruiter and got us one step closer to victory. I have no more kills at the moment, but I, due to my alliance with Chuck, have a steady flow of cop investigations: on night 1, it was stroop guilty: after lovo died, I decided to use my kill and order the death of stroop, as a known FULCRUM member. Night 2, I found out that pmc was guilty: since I was gone at the time, I was unable to report this and by the time I was back, you had killed pmc. (Chuck didn't want to come out). On night 3, I learned that talapus was innocent.

ace1217 wrote:Ok, looks like its time to claim: I am Colonel John Casey. I am working with Chuck, and I was working with the deceased lovo. Furthermore, I am the one who ordered the killing of Stroop, which took down a recruiter and got us one step closer to victory. I have no more kills at the moment, but I, due to my alliance with Chuck, have a steady flow of cop investigations: on night 1, it was stroop guilty: after lovo died, I decided to use my kill and order the death of stroop, as a known FULCRUM member. Night 2, I found out that pmc was guilty: since I was gone at the time, I was unable to report this and by the time I was back, you had killed pmc. (Chuck didn't want to come out). On night 3, I learned that talapus was innocent.

You are correct sir....I am innocent and thank you for noticing. However I fear there may be a lynch but more probable a day hit sent out on me since peeps know I'm innocent and now I too will claim and get my information out there in the game so we can use it before I die and it gets wasted. Why in the world LSU is convinced I'm scum is beyond me for the fact that / lost 6 messages last night and probably forgot to e-mail and inform me my role had changed. Instead LSU is johnny on the spot to accuse me when I've done NOTHING so far to earn it......so, well done dude .....next time how about you wait a bit longer to discuss it before you flat out accuse me of something.

Anyway, I'm Brigadier General Diane Beckman. Basically I get to do the same exact thing as LSU does only. I keep getting jack for results. Night 1 I went for Falkmango......obviousy there was no need to claim once LSU put his neck on the line. Night 2 I chose Nzen and he claimed the next day his role didn't change. So, he's either scum or civilian.....but since LSU already said who should die(And he was right), I kept my mouth shut assuming Nzen was/is a civilian......no way to confirm it though. Last night I chose captainwalrus and he claimed today that his role didn't change. So again, civilian or scum......just not sure which. So there it is....Hopefully someone out there has investigated either Nzen or captainwalrus and can give us something further to go on.

I'm willing to lynch either right now, but an investigation to back it up would make it easier. As for the Chuck storyline, I'm at a loss. But if someone could inform me if LSU's roll is completely innocent in the show it would help to determine if he's a rogue agent or something in this game. Until then, FOS LSU.

Talapus wrote:Why in the world LSU is convinced I'm scum is beyond me for the fact that / lost 6 messages last night and probably forgot to e-mail and inform me my role had changed.

Anyway, I'm Brigadier General Diane Beckman. Basically I get to do the same exact thing as LSU does only. I keep getting jack for results. Night 1 I went for Falkmango......obviousy there was no need to claim once LSU put his neck on the line. Night 2 I chose Nzen and he claimed the next day his role didn't change. So, he's either scum or civilian. (...) Last night I chose captainwalrus and he claimed today that his role didn't change. So again, civilian or scum......just not sure which. So there it is....Hopefully someone out there has investigated either Nzen or captainwalrus and can give us something further to go on.

There is a lot to consider in this claim. It isn't impossible that there be two of a semi-investigator who doesn't receive the result. It isn't impossible that / didn't pm you. For the moment, I will wait a real-day so perhaps / can confirm or deny the possibility to LSU. If you declare a delayed receipt, it only appears as WiFoM.

I can't dispell the WiFo-You cast by Talapus' accusation. Another knows, but that is only marginally more believable and makes us a target. I won't role or character claim, lest we not bandwagon the (last?) mafiosi today. I am surprised that the alignment you chose, "civilian" does describe mine so accurately. In that case, yours (if truthful) seems like the reverse of LSU's since he mentioned it created a "super agent."

LSU has earned my trust. The risk to a mafiosi bussing two partners is too great to chance with so many town still in the game and the sacrifices so powerful - especially when being wrong will ensure his own lynch.

But, ace1217 claims to have received a contrary result with, reputedly, a more straight forward role. The claim has some elements demanding scrutiny. He claims he used two actions during night two, which would be the first I have ever heard of. That doesn't jive with one or two very limited investigators (LSU & perhaps Talapus). Also, he made choices that were retrospectively perfect. That arouses my skepticism all the more for deciding not to post a guilty investigation.

It is a shade late for me to string more reasons together, so I will stick with waiting for a real day.

Vote count

LSU; 1 vote: ace
Talapus; 1 vote: LSU

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

Also I will not publicly confirm or deny any of your roles, any questions pertaining to weather I received your action, or even if you have an action should be addressed by PM.

Nzen wrote:

Talapus wrote:Why in the world LSU is convinced I'm scum is beyond me for the fact that / lost 6 messages last night and probably forgot to e-mail and inform me my role had changed.

Anyway, I'm Brigadier General Diane Beckman. Basically I get to do the same exact thing as LSU does only. I keep getting jack for results. Night 1 I went for Falkmango......obviousy there was no need to claim once LSU put his neck on the line. Night 2 I chose Nzen and he claimed the next day his role didn't change. So, he's either scum or civilian. (...) Last night I chose captainwalrus and he claimed today that his role didn't change. So again, civilian or scum......just not sure which. So there it is....Hopefully someone out there has investigated either Nzen or captainwalrus and can give us something further to go on.

There is a lot to consider in this claim. It isn't impossible that there be two of a semi-investigator who doesn't receive the result. It isn't impossible that / didn't pm you. For the moment, I will wait a real-day so perhaps / can confirm or deny the possibility to LSU. If you declare a delayed receipt, it only appears as WiFoM.

I can't dispell the WiFo-You cast by Talapus' accusation. Another knows, but that is only marginally more believable and makes us a target. I won't role or character claim, lest we not bandwagon the (last?) mafiosi today. I am surprised that the alignment you chose, "civilian" does describe mine so accurately. In that case, yours (if truthful) seems like the reverse of LSU's since he mentioned it created a "super agent."

LSU has earned my trust. The risk to a mafiosi bussing two partners is too great to chance with so many town still in the game and the sacrifices so powerful - especially when being wrong will ensure his own lynch.

But, ace1217 claims to have received a contrary result with, reputedly, a more straight forward role. The claim has some elements demanding scrutiny. He claims he used two actions during night two, which would be the first I have ever heard of. That doesn't jive with one or two very limited investigators (LSU & perhaps Talapus). Also, he made choices that were retrospectively perfect. That arouses my skepticism all the more for deciding not to post a guilty investigation.

It is a shade late for me to string more reasons together, so I will stick with waiting for a real day.

Well, LSU did say the peoples role that he chooses change to a certain role everynight. Mine do the same thing, but not so much a "super agent"....whatever that is. As for the roles of civilians....again, I have no idea what the Chuck storyline is, I have never seen the show. I assume it's like a vanilla townie but with a more exciting role then just vanilla townie....you know, a townie who can't do jack....but again, not clue.

Hmmm...
Well LSU has proved himself IMO by busting PMC and Falko but it seems odd that ace would be able to clear tal and that tal would have a near identical role to LSU.
Is this a cult game? I have not played enough to recognize one.

Nzen wrote:

Talapus wrote:Why in the world LSU is convinced I'm scum is beyond me for the fact that / lost 6 messages last night and probably forgot to e-mail and inform me my role had changed.

Anyway, I'm Brigadier General Diane Beckman. Basically I get to do the same exact thing as LSU does only. I keep getting jack for results. Night 1 I went for Falkmango......obviousy there was no need to claim once LSU put his neck on the line. Night 2 I chose Nzen and he claimed the next day his role didn't change. So, he's either scum or civilian. (...) Last night I chose captainwalrus and he claimed today that his role didn't change. So again, civilian or scum......just not sure which. So there it is....Hopefully someone out there has investigated either Nzen or captainwalrus and can give us something further to go on.

There is a lot to consider in this claim. It isn't impossible that there be two of a semi-investigator who doesn't receive the result. It isn't impossible that / didn't pm you. For the moment, I will wait a real-day so perhaps / can confirm or deny the possibility to LSU. If you declare a delayed receipt, it only appears as WiFoM.

I can't dispell the WiFo-You cast by Talapus' accusation. Another knows, but that is only marginally more believable and makes us a target. I won't role or character claim, lest we not bandwagon the (last?) mafiosi today. I am surprised that the alignment you chose, "civilian" does describe mine so accurately. In that case, yours (if truthful) seems like the reverse of LSU's since he mentioned it created a "super agent."

LSU has earned my trust. The risk to a mafiosi bussing two partners is too great to chance with so many town still in the game and the sacrifices so powerful - especially when being wrong will ensure his own lynch.

But, ace1217 claims to have received a contrary result with, reputedly, a more straight forward role. The claim has some elements demanding scrutiny. He claims he used two actions during night two, which would be the first I have ever heard of. That doesn't jive with one or two very limited investigators (LSU & perhaps Talapus). Also, he made choices that were retrospectively perfect. That arouses my skepticism all the more for deciding not to post a guilty investigation.

It is a shade late for me to string more reasons together, so I will stick with waiting for a real day.

Ok, I think you are confused: I'm not the one investigating, thats Chuck. I am John Casey, as previously stated. I had a one shot vig kill day or night, which I used to kill stroop.

ace1217 wrote:Ok, I think you are confused: I'm not the one investigating, thats Chuck. I am John Casey, as previously stated. I had a one shot vig kill day or night, which I used to kill stroop.

You are right ace1217, that wasn't as clear the first time you wrote it. So, in addition to your power, you are a mason or lover with [chuck] who told you the results of his investigations. In light of this, your behavior - if true - bears out. If this were a false claim, you would have to be a mafiosi protecting Talapus. (This assumes a lone survivor or scum would not go out on a limb for a non-aligned player.) In a 19 person game, I am hard pressed to believe that there could be 6 mafia. If you know your partner is Chuck, then the set-up forbids him as secret scum. In sum, the incentives suggest you are telling the truth about Talapus' town alignment.

Talapus claimed as "Brigadier General." LSU mentioned the new or unchanged role would be a "super agent," which somewhat fits, but Talapus claimed after LSU's admission. Talapus did choose the term civilian for his effect, which surprises me somewhat in a game where all the revealed roles have been agents and FULCRUM. And yet, FBI and cop shows do use the term for support characters. LSU's incentives point to town, particularly because of his accusation.

Until now, I forgot the source of the accusation: pmchugh. His alignment and style of play indicate he would not rat out his final teammate. Confusing town makes far more sense.

Logic suggests that Talapus is town aligned. I unvote ace1217 and suggest LSU do the same. The hard work is ahead of us since the nine other people mainly said "my role didn't change" yesterday and today.