Europa [Quenched]

[RjBeals]

I want to redraw the territory borders, as I want them to look fresh and crisp. At the moment I think they look a bit jaggedy and distorted (as well as inaccurate in 1 or 2 places like N Ireland).... I think this will be a major major task, as my couple of attempts at redoing the border have taken ages, and not been overly successful... Any suggestions on how to do this quickly, easily and efficiently would be warmly received.

I like to use a solid black 2-pixel brush with a hardness of 100% (Opacity 100% & Flow 100%). This gives a good well defined smooth border. I will sometimes outline the entire bonus region in a 3 or 4 pixel brush also, just to keep it separated even more. Zoom in close on your original map and trace the borders. Yes it will take a while, but most likely not as long as you think. How accurate you keep it is up to you.

[Qwert]

yeti
I think - as this is a map of Europe - and the fact that *most* of the EU countries have recognised it as an independant country... then I would go with it as an Independant country.

No its not independant country,28 country from Europe decide to recognise and all Planet not recognise,and hes not recognise in UN,MMF,OIC,also European Union not recognise Kosovo,because dont have concensus to do these,because Spain,Slovakia,Cyprus,Grecce,Chech republic refuse to recognise Kosovo,these is a fact,
If you thinking that for Kosovo is only importan that Some european country recognise,and nobody else,then he will be like,Pridnestrovije,Abhasija,Osetia,who also not recognise by UN.
For now Kosovo will never be a member of UN,and EU.

[Lone.prophet]

i like the old borders better, but maybe you can copy the old border layer and put a blur on the second so it has a more transistant flow into the outside

[MrBenn]

Huh??

What borders do you prefer? I haven't made any changes yet...

Oh, and thanks RJ

[RjBeals]

What borders do you prefer? I haven't made any changes yet...

I guess he looked at my small example screen image and thought you changed all the borders already. You asked for suggestions, thats all I was giving

[Ruben Cassar]

Regarding Kosovo, I came across this link a few weeks ago, and it may help decide one way or the other, regarding inclusion/exclusion.


--Andy

I think - as this is a map of Europe - and the fact that *most* of the EU countries have recognised it as an independant country... then I would go with it as an Independant country.

C.

The EU is not Europe though!

Anyway, as qwert said that site Andy posted was a propaganda site. I think we should stick with what the United Nations (UN) say and therefore Kosovo is NOT an independent country.

[yeti_c]

The EU is not Europe though!

Anyway, as qwert said that site Andy posted was a propaganda site. I think we should stick with what the United Nations (UN) say and therefore Kosovo is NOT an independent country.

The "Propaganda" site - has links to governmental sites around the world who have recognised it - which clearly aren't propaganda... one mans propaganda is another mans news.

C.

[DiM]

The Dictatorship of DiM-topia, through the wise words of its feared leader, The Almighty DiM, does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country.

[t-o-m]

The Dictatorship of DiM-topia, through the wise words of its feared leader, The Almighty DiM, does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country.

well if DiM doesnt recognize it then i dont recognize it lol

[Qwert]

yeti
The "Propaganda" site - has links to governmental sites around the world who have recognised it - which clearly aren't propaganda... one mans propaganda is another mans news.

Its proAlbanian site,because have only country who recognise Kosovo,then have country who "will"recognise Kosovo later(dont write witch year will these heppend),and if you look better he put some country who say that never recognise kosovo independent(like Georgia),and these site not put country who refuse to recognise Independent,and that why these site is propaganda,because hes not objective. Better to look Wikipedia who is more objective,and clearly say that KOsovo is partialy recognise,and that hes not recognise by UN and other importan organisation.

[AndyDufresne]

Qwert, we understand your point and where you are coming from I think.


--Andy

[Kaplowitz]

The Dictatorship of DiM-topia, through the wise words of its feared leader, The Almighty DiM, does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country.

eh... --- is scarier.

[Ruben Cassar]

The EU is not Europe though!

Anyway, as qwert said that site Andy posted was a propaganda site. I think we should stick with what the United Nations (UN) say and therefore Kosovo is NOT an independent country.

The "Propaganda" site - has links to governmental sites around the world who have recognised it - which clearly aren't propaganda... one mans propaganda is another mans news.

C.

Okay let's not focus on that site to avoid conflicting views, but on what the United Nations says. That's the right way to go. If the UN considers Kosovo independent then it's okay, but so far the UN does not consider Kosovo as an independent country.

[Ruben Cassar]

Has the region grouping been defined for the map yet?

[Kaplowitz]

The EU is not Europe though!

Anyway, as qwert said that site Andy posted was a propaganda site. I think we should stick with what the United Nations (UN) say and therefore Kosovo is NOT an independent country.

The "Propaganda" site - has links to governmental sites around the world who have recognised it - which clearly aren't propaganda... one mans propaganda is another mans news.

C.

Okay let's not focus on that site to avoid conflicting views, but on what the United Nations says. That's the right way to go. If the UN considers Kosovo independent then it's okay, but so far the UN does not consider Kosovo as an independent country.

I think we go by the UN as they are global are more people can relate to them. Plus im sure they're more official.

[bryguy]

the ruler of the Republic of Doubleposters, bryguy, says that you missed his country in there (or former double posters that is)

[Bavarian Raven]

keep kosovo...heck canada recognizes it as a country...

[yeti_c]

The EU is not Europe though!

Anyway, as qwert said that site Andy posted was a propaganda site. I think we should stick with what the United Nations (UN) say and therefore Kosovo is NOT an independent country.

The "Propaganda" site - has links to governmental sites around the world who have recognised it - which clearly aren't propaganda... one mans propaganda is another mans news.

C.

Okay let's not focus on that site to avoid conflicting views, but on what the United Nations says. That's the right way to go. If the UN considers Kosovo independent then it's okay, but so far the UN does not consider Kosovo as an independent country.

Well yes - but the bureaucracy of the UN means that all the red tape and forms and shit like that will take years to fill in...

C.

[MrBenn]

bryguy says that you missed his country in there

I'm not too sure what you mean by this Bryguy... you do realise that the United States isn't part of Europe don't you...

[MrBenn]

Has the region grouping been defined for the map yet?

Phew - thanks for providing some relief from the Kosovo debate, and asking a question about the map... It is a bit of welcome relief!

I have been looking at my drafts for different region groupings, and have thought of something that I think might work - but need to put a bit more flesh to my thoughts.

[sam_levi_11]

how will the small countrys be given army circles, also you should mve the legend to the top left and then you have more space for enlargment while keeping the map the same size.

also i say forget kosovo for now, we can always come back to it later.

[bryguy]

bryguy says that you missed his country in there

I'm not too sure what you mean by this Bryguy... you do realise that the United States isn't part of Europe don't you...

not that, you missed the Republic of Doubleposters!!!!


its somewhere in europe....

or was it canada?

[MrBenn]

Whoops - triple-post!

[MrBenn]

Whoops - double-post!

[MrBenn]

how will the small countrys be given army circles, also you should mve the legend to the top left and then you have more space for enlargment while keeping the map the same size.

also i say forget kosovo for now, we can always come back to it later.

Thanks for the feedback Sam_Levi. I'm not convinced that moving the legend will achieve much - yes there is a bit of space at the left, but not as much as the legend currently occupies at the moment. Yes, it does overlap a part of Russia, but I don't think it's a major problem.


I've decided against doing round army circles, but will use a feathered oval shadow instead... There's an example of it somewhere in the thread, but I'm not sure where off the top of my head.

Sound advice about the Kosovo debate... I'm undecided and unfussed, to be honest!