Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:39 pm**

Rodion wrote:@MOB

Do you believe him?

What are your feelings on his failure to protect the town watcher?

Do you think a player that teaches others what to do (who to protect, who to watch etc) so that they won't f*ck up immensely like Teegee just did is scummy?

I need to review, I am at work and havent been able to devote enough research time. From the looks of it I don't believe him at all by the way you have phrased it.

thehippo8 wrote: The failure to protect the Town Watcher is understandable in that the Doctor does not know who has been lynched until the next day.

What are you talking about. Isiah counter claimed VS, we KNEW he was the watcher.

thehippo8 wrote: Clearly TeeGee thought he was scum or he would have saved him.

Why would isiah be scum if he counter claimed the GF?? Do you know whats going on?

thehippo8 wrote: Admittedly the statements made by TeeGee to date have been all over the place, but then - and particularly in day one - everyone has said odd things. Perhaps it is an experience thing, maybe it is a miscommunication. I am satisfied that there was a case against TeeGee, but if he is the Town Doctor then we can be assured he won't be here tomorrow (unless there is a role block or protector or something that can save him). On that basis, it would be my preference to leave it a (real time) day or two and if no counter-claim arrives then we should look elsewhere.

Extreme FOS Hippo If I don't put my vote back on TeeGee then my vote is going on hippo but I need more time to review

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:40 pm**

EBWOP - I had my comments in a quote

Rodion wrote:@MOB

Do you believe him?

What are your feelings on his failure to protect the town watcher?

Do you think a player that teaches others what to do (who to protect, who to watch etc) so that they won't f*ck up immensely like Teegee just did is scummy?

I need to review, I am at work and havent been able to devote enough research time. From the looks of it I don't believe him at all by the way you have phrased it.

thehippo8 wrote: The failure to protect the Town Watcher is understandable in that the Doctor does not know who has been lynched until the next day.

What are you talking about. Isiah counter claimed VS, we KNEW he was the watcher.

thehippo8 wrote: Clearly TeeGee thought he was scum or he would have saved him.

Why would isiah be scum if he counter claimed the GF?? Do you know whats going on?

thehippo8 wrote: Admittedly the statements made by TeeGee to date have been all over the place, but then - and particularly in day one - everyone has said odd things. Perhaps it is an experience thing, maybe it is a miscommunication. I am satisfied that there was a case against TeeGee, but if he is the Town Doctor then we can be assured he won't be here tomorrow (unless there is a role block or protector or something that can save him). On that basis, it would be my preference to leave it a (real time) day or two and if no counter-claim arrives then we should look elsewhere.

Extreme FOS Hippo If I don't put my vote back on TeeGee then my vote is going on hippo but I need more time to review

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:11 pm**

MoB Deadly wrote:EBWOP - I had my comments in a quote

Rodion wrote:@MOB

Do you believe him?

What are your feelings on his failure to protect the town watcher?

Do you think a player that teaches others what to do (who to protect, who to watch etc) so that they won't f*ck up immensely like Teegee just did is scummy?
I need to review, I am at work and havent been able to devote enough research time. From the looks of it I don't believe him at all by the way you have phrased it.

thehippo8 wrote: The failure to protect the Town Watcher is understandable in that the Doctor does not know who has been lynched until the next day.
What are you talking about. Isiah counter claimed VS, we KNEW he was the watcher.

thehippo8 wrote: Clearly TeeGee thought he was scum or he would have saved him.
Why would isiah be scum if he counter claimed the GF?? Do you know whats going on?

thehippo8 wrote: Admittedly the statements made by TeeGee to date have been all over the place, but then - and particularly in day one - everyone has said odd things. Perhaps it is an experience thing, maybe it is a miscommunication. I am satisfied that there was a case against TeeGee, but if he is the Town Doctor then we can be assured he won't be here tomorrow (unless there is a role block or protector or something that can save him). On that basis, it would be my preference to leave it a (real time) day or two and if no counter-claim arrives then we should look elsewhere.
Extreme FOS Hippo If I don't put my vote back on TeeGee then my vote is going on hippo but I need more time to review

major doc fail, failed to protect the watcher, and by not having a watcher we can't even watch the doc tonight to see who will kill the doc.... this is going to be so bad.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:35 pm**

So umm.. Did TeeGee officially state WHO he actually protected last night?

Reread the thread:
Biggest suspicions are TeeGee (still) and Hippo.

TeeGee didn't protect the Watcher, why not?

Hippo, upon Isiah's claim was still hesitant to put his vote on VS, he was actually one of the last players to. And now he comes in and heavily defends TeeGee with false information.

I would not be surprised if they were not both mafia.

There is one thing I can see in TeeGee's defense. But I don't want to feed it to him, I want him to respond himself.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:39 pm**

Rodion wrote:You'd be surprised to know I'm not scum in any of my current games. Unless of course you already know that due to being scum in said games. Hmmmmmmm...

Unvote, vote Shield.

This was in joke stage. Nothing to put behind it.

thehippo8 wrote:Time to ramp it up ... I still can't hear you TeeGee!! Let's bring out the war tubas and see if that rattles you ...

Still joke vote.

thehippo8 wrote:So, where is TeeGee?

This was only 12 hours after the TeeGee vote and there was only one post by Maximum in between Hippo drawing more attention to TeeGee.

Then MoB and Chap sheep hippo's vote immediately.

Then VS and Max sheep hippo's vote.

TeeGee comes back and votes VS.

Squirrel FOSes everyone voting TeeGee and Hippo immediately tells everyone to back off.

Chapcrap says, hey wait, why you unvote? He hasn't done anything to be unvoted.

TeeGee votes Chap, Hippo defends TeeGee and asks Chap to chill out a little bit.

TeeGee has special oopsie and Vic doesn't defend at first, just says that TeeGee can keep it hidden.

Squirrel calls me aggressive for my comment on almost voting him. I call him out out and FOS.

usAir wrote:I love how rapidly these games go from joke votes to extremely tense accusations over very little.

On that note, FOS chapcrap, for, at least in my opinion, unnecessarily, and over-aggressively, pursuing a very minor mistake.

Keep this is mind if we determine TeeGee is scum.

I defended Chap when I felt usAir made up a kind of BS reason to FOS Chap.

Sully votes me, Squirrel asks why, Sully scumslips, Isaiah calls VS out, Hippo jumps in with the defense on Sully and immediate attack of Isaiah.

theHippo8 wrote:There is now some fractionation of voting and discussion, which later I reckon will be telling as to who is on who's side and why! For now FOS Victor, either explain that you are skimming in your vote or you are the proverbial fly in the ointment!

This is Hippo giving the godfather, VS, and out. Odd... As of this moment, Hippo is starting to look a little too scummy...

Then there is TeeGee's noob post. I don't believe this for one second. This is the first thing that convinces me that he is scum. I know it is his first game, but COME ON! He basically says he may be town/may not be town. He isn't that stupid...

TheGeneral2112 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:What 2112 said. All I did was point out a mistake and say it wasn't important.
It is always a good thing when I am not too pretentious; I actually make sense.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:unvote vote TheGeneral2112

Let's stay classy, eh?

-Sully
Care to actually explain one of your votes for once, sully?
Yes, please do. On another note, not that I take this vote too seriously since it is only D1 and everyone is throwing votes around quicker than half price chicken wings sell out on food stamp day.

Victor Sullivan wrote: I suppose it's only fair.

I feel like TheGeneral is using a scapegoat-type method to get TeeGee lynched. It was clearly a newb mistake and didn't have any malicious intent. I feel like TheGeneral is just using it as an excuse to get a townie lynched.

-Sully
I'm glad to hear that we are now talking about feelings. I can understand why you have no concrete evidence to back this up, since I didn't even vote TeeGee or anything. To be honest, I don't recall who my vote is on ATM, but it is probably just a joke vote anyway. Back to our feelings, Sully... Can you show me where I am trying to have a townie lynched? Ya' know, by like, oh my gawd, quoting what I totally like said instead of just, oh my gawd, throwing around rumors. Because if you keep throwing around like these totally fake rumors then maybe like, oh my gawd, you should back them up or we will totally throw rumors and lies around about like you.

But, I digress. Anybody want to know what really worries me? I will leave my observations out of the picture to let others reach their own conclusions.

thehippo8 wrote:
usAir wrote:I love how rapidly these games go from joke votes to extremely tense accusations over very little.
True that, and how quickly people get off track!

I can understand Victor questioning 2112, but frankly he just looks a little pressured and isn't so used to the effect his words have. Unlike you Victor, you know exactly what you are doing. That's what I call passive aggressive but it's aggressive all the same!

As to TeeGee making an edit, you are playing Johnny-come-lately Isaiah. I was there and saw the before and after. So, for the benefit of all, the first was ...

unvote vote chapcrap

and the second ...

unvote vote chapcrap

Now, for those of you who are skimming, 2112 voted for chap. And chap (and I) saw the vote change. Chap mentioned it, and 2112 explained. Given chap had the greatest reason to pursue this and now chooses not to, unfortunately, I can find nothing useful here in this!!

But Chap said ...

chapcrap wrote:Why unvote TeeGee when he has given us nothing? All he did was show up. That's not enough to take my vote off.

So, again for the skimmers, I started some pressure on TeeGee because of his silence. Once he had spoken up I considered that I had no reason to pursue that pressure by way of a vote. I appreciate, Isaiah, that you are asking more of TeeGee and I agree we have little information to go on at this time, certainly not enough to clear TeeGee one way or the other!

There is now some fractionation of voting and discussion, which later I reckon will be telling as to who is on who's side and why! For now FOS Victor, either explain that you are skimming in your vote or you are the proverbial fly in the ointment!

I'm just going to sum this up. Hippo sees Victor as passive aggressive and warns him to tone it down. Then in the same post, turns attention to TeeGee and ChapCrap and moves away from Sully. I know, I said I would let you come to your own conclusion. Too bad. I think Hippo is trying to do some mafia damage control because we are on the right track with Victor.

Vote Victor. Not always a bad thing.

Reread this. It is a good case against Hippo... It means even more now.

VS and I start clawing.

VS not so subtly suggests I may be mafia. Hippo posts to vote VS, but also gives him ANOTHER out to use at the end of his post.

VS and I break out the bats.

usAir wrote:After re-reading this discussion, FOS General, Chapcrap, and Sully. I'm not sure if I can make any more sense of this foolishness.

I'll leave my vote on chapcrap for now, until something else develops.

This is of note. Takes a backseat though.

At first appearance, Chap OMGUSs usAir. On second thought, usAir really was skimming if that was his response.

Chap seems to FOS me without saying it out loud.

zimmah wrote:Vote sully his crusade against general does not convince me, his logic seems flawed and I have played some games with sully and I don't think he's town in this one, something seems off about him. It's mostly just a hunch, but still I think it's the best lead and worth a shot.

This is worth noting. I consider it a towntell. Especially since he votes me right afterwards. Seems like he really doesn't know who to choose.

Sully and I pull out the small arms.

Zimmah puts Sully at L-3. Chap puts him at L-2. You can read nothing into Chaps vote since he tried to vote him earlier. He forgot to unvote first.

TeeGee wrote:Somebody called me out for my silence at the beginning of this game, now that someone themselves is a little quiet.

Lets see if we can break the silence

unvote vote thehippo8

TeeGee tries to direct attention away from VS who is not at L-2. Scum to the tell.

MoB unvotes, Hippo votes me and tries to start another BW/Claim.

Chap and TeeGee sheep Hippo's vote yet again...

Isaiah claims, Chap, MoB, Max, Zimmah revote VS.

Hippo posts and says, VS, talk your way out, I won't vote you... Scumtell again.

Hippo posts again, refusing to vote VS and still trying to see if VS will post.

Finally in a 3rd post (Hippo realizes VS if fucked?) he votes Sully.

That wraps up day one.

A lot can be gained from analyzing the Max/Isaiah BW, but I'm sick of rereading. I think I have made a good case here for Hippo's lynch. BUT I think we need to get TeeGee today. Hippo defends VS who defends TeeGee. Get TeeGee, then get Hippo.

UNVOTE VOTE TEEGEE

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:57 pm**

well the general, i'm amazed by your post, as this one does show you're quite a bit more experienced then i tought you'd be. if you keep up posts like this, i might actually start to like playing mafia with you.

i'm not sure if i like the reasoning to vote teegee before hippo, but i do think that you have at least a few valid points.

therefore unvote vote teegee

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:58 pm**

zimmah wrote:well the general, i'm amazed by your post, as this one does show you're quite a bit more experienced then i tought you'd be. if you keep up posts like this, i might actually start to like playing mafia with you.

i'm not sure if i like the reasoning to vote teegee before hippo, but i do think that you have at least a few valid points.

therefore unvote vote teegee

just to make sure the vote gets tallied

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:29 pm**

Well thanks, zimmah. I do enjoy a good game of mafia. Like I said in the beginning of D2, I feel we already know who all of the mafia are. I stand by my prediction.

I don't have a reason to vote TeeGee before Hippo, I think my only reason was that he is already close to being lynched.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:16 am**

TheGeneral2112 wrote:Well thanks, zimmah. I do enjoy a good game of mafia. Like I said in the beginning of D2, I feel we already know who all of the mafia are. I stand by my prediction.

I don't have a reason to vote TeeGee before Hippo, I think my only reason was that he is already close to being lynched.

unvote vote TeeGee

Just like General said, I feel like TeeGee and Hippo are screaming scum I don't care who gets lynched first in my opinion

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:13 am**

soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly -
Mr. Squirrel -
Shieldgenerator7 -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
usAir -
TeeGee - maximum, General, Zimmah, Mob - (L3)
thehippo8 -
maximumbandit - TeeGee - (L6)
TheGeneral2112 -

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday Dec. 19th

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:47 am**

Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:01 am**

VOTE TEEGEE

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:52 am**

MoB Deadly wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:Well thanks, zimmah. I do enjoy a good game of mafia. Like I said in the beginning of D2, I feel we already know who all of the mafia are. I stand by my prediction.

I don't have a reason to vote TeeGee before Hippo, I think my only reason was that he is already close to being lynched.
unvote vote TeeGee

Just like General said, I feel like TeeGee and Hippo are screaming scum I don't care who gets lynched first in my opinion

This.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:59 am**

Please allow me to translate this cryptic-ass post.

thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot.

Damn it! They caught me!

thehippo8 wrote:You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment.

I'm still going to pretend I'm not scum.

thehippo8 wrote: I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

In fact, I'm not even going to defend myself at all.

thehippo8 wrote: Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one.

I'm going to seem like I want this lynch. Even though I'm not even voting for it.

thehippo8 wrote:Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

I am going to take credit for TheGeneral and Maximum analyzing the VS/TeeGee/Hippo team and make it seem like I am town. Also, I am softclaiming a super investigative POWER ROLE!

thehippo8 wrote:For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!

Here is a little something to throw you all off track and place blame on someone else. Also, I may refer back to this post tomorrow when I am about to be lynched.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 am**

thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!

Instead of giving us a riddle, why don't you explain why you defended both VS and TeeGee??

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:29 am**

ya know general, you are going pretty heavy against The Hippo... major FOS on the general...

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:32 am**

thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!

as far as i know, you can't possibly know my role, and even if you did, that riddle does not even make sense to me. i have honestly no idea what you're trying to say.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:33 am**

crazymilkshake5 wrote:ya know general, you are going pretty heavy against The Hippo... major FOS on the general...

Yeah FOS the player that defended himself against the Godfather, thats good

why does Hippo need to be taken lightly, have you read his defense on TeeGee?

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:36 am**

zimmah wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!
as far as i know, you can't possibly know my role, and even if you did, that riddle does not even make sense to me. i have honestly no idea what you're trying to say.

unless you referred to my birthday yesterday but i didn't celebrate it, like i never do, and especially not with candles cakes and clowns.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:39 am**

zimmah wrote:
zimmah wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!
as far as i know, you can't possibly know my role, and even if you did, that riddle does not even make sense to me. i have honestly no idea what you're trying to say.
unless you referred to my birthday yesterday but i didn't celebrate it, like i never do, and especially not with candles cakes and clowns.

Oh... so Hippo's riddle had absolutely no information in relation to this game..... Thats good...

Happy Belated Birthday Zimmah, hope it was a good one!

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:40 am**

MoB Deadly wrote:
zimmah wrote:
zimmah wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:Crikey you are a fickle lot. You may want to brush up on yourinvestigating skills, can't accept your deductions on me for a moment. I'm not going to go through everything line by line as I see no good purpose in giving credence to such faulty logic. Moving on.

Well, here we are back on TeeGee. Not a bad thing, and I have to agree with that one. Indeed, if I am right on that, you will see he is mafia and then I will have some valuable info for you in the following day.

For now, it is time that I shared somethig with you. Here's a little riddle ...

Where there's candles and cake and clowns you'll find Zimmah!
as far as i know, you can't possibly know my role, and even if you did, that riddle does not even make sense to me. i have honestly no idea what you're trying to say.
unless you referred to my birthday yesterday but i didn't celebrate it, like i never do, and especially not with candles cakes and clowns.

Oh... so Hippo's riddle had absolutely no information in relation to this game..... Thats good...

Happy Belated Birthday Zimmah, hope it was a good one!

quit skimming

i don't celebrate my day of birth, because i don't think a birthday is worth celebrating, and i want to stay away from heathen traditions.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:00 pm**

crazymilkshake5 wrote:ya know general, you are going pretty heavy against The Hippo... major FOS on the general...

This is funny. I also went heavy against the Victor and got the godfather lynched. U mad bro?

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:29 pm**

TheGeneral2112 wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:ya know general, you are going pretty heavy against The Hippo... major FOS on the general...

This is funny. I also went heavy against the Victor and got the godfather lynched. U mad bro?

haha hey, just sayin its kinda fishy...

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:44 pm**

crazymilkshake5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:ya know general, you are going pretty heavy against The Hippo... major FOS on the general...

This is funny. I also went heavy against the Victor and got the godfather lynched. U mad bro?
haha hey, just sayin its kinda fishy...

hmm, first you use the words major fos, which is kinda like "well i'd vote oyu but i didn't quite vote you yet, but i'm looking for an oppurtunity to vote you" and now you're saying you were just saying it is 'a little fishy'

now what is it, a huge whale or a tiny guppie? i'd say you're being evasive right now and even more suspicious then the one you were fossing.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:47 pm**

its my first mafia game, im still trying to catch up with the terms and such...

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