[Official]Adventure time mafia:MAFIA WIN!

[TimWoodbury]

okay yah i thought he was l2 after mitches so you are corrrect hes at l-2 now.

[the white rose]

So tim, you got an ideas as to who is scum yet?

[TimWoodbury]

with how WCG was talking the last few posts he has jumped up on my unreliable skumdar i know me you and mitch are town so leaves a bunch more to pick from

[Whatsausage]

@twr, you don't get town credit for hammering scum for the very reason of what is happening right now. Scum are the only one's who know whether players are scum or not. So it is easy for scum to hammer other scum and be like "look how town I am, I killed scum" when a town player doesn't really know on a lynch, especially on D1. Town lynch other town all the time because they don't know, this doesn't make them scum in the same way that scum lynching scummates (especially when that player is likely to be lynched anyway) doesn't make them town.

You are letting the results color the actions and more importantly, the reasons.

You could have very easily demanded more from dakky without hammering. After you knew he was dead and provided more, you and streaker both unvoted. You being the only one to know he was dead while placing him at L1 basically forced someone else to unvote to prevent a potential quicklynch. This made streaker someone for you to target right out of the gate today. So it looks to me like you could have easily hammered a scum mate all while gathering a potential target for D2.

As for WCG saying you wanted to quiet your mate before he spilled the beans: perhaps the scum have a factional ability that dakky may have bartered in order to stay alive that you wanted to remain hidden. This theory is a little out there, but it is very conceivable that he had some group information that he could have wasted in trying to save himself.

FP'd by tim

How do you know those two are town? Is mitch's softclaim really enough to clear two people? It has been such a strange softclaim too, where the most flatout thing he has said is "I READ the white rose as town". If you want to believe that claim that is one thing, but having that assure you that twr is town is shortsighted.
Do you join twr in thinking that wing and streaker are a scum pair?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

with how WCG was talking the last few posts he has jumped up on my unreliable skumdar i know me you and mitch are town so leaves a bunch more to pick from

So until an hour ago you had no scum reads?

[TimWoodbury]

@twr, you don't get town credit for hammering scum for the very reason of what is happening right now. Scum are the only one's who know whether players are scum or not. So it is easy for scum to hammer other scum and be like "look how town I am, I killed scum" when a town player doesn't really know on a lynch, especially on D1. Town lynch other town all the time because they don't know, this doesn't make them scum in the same way that scum lynching scummates (especially when that player is likely to be lynched anyway) doesn't make them town.

You are letting the results color the actions and more importantly, the reasons.

You could have very easily demanded more from dakky without hammering. After you knew he was dead and provided more, you and streaker both unvoted. You being the only one to know he was dead while placing him at L1 basically forced someone else to unvote to prevent a potential quicklynch. This made streaker someone for you to target right out of the gate today. So it looks to me like you could have easily hammered a scum mate all while gathering a potential target for D2.

As for WCG saying you wanted to quiet your mate before he spilled the beans: perhaps the scum have a factional ability that dakky may have bartered in order to stay alive that you wanted to remain hidden. This theory is a little out there, but it is very conceivable that he had some group information that he could have wasted in trying to save himself.

FP'd by tim

How do you know those two are town? Is mitch's softclaim really enough to clear two people? It has been such a strange softclaim too, where the most flatout thing he has said is "I READ the white rose as town". If you want to believe that claim that is one thing, but having that assure you that twr is town is shortsighted.
Do you join twr in thinking that wing and streaker are a scum pair?

honestly i dont know who would e wings partner could it be streaker shure but who knows, i do know streaker has played differant in d1 then he typicallly dose but it could be he just want the new people to learn to take a lead instead of the new ones just following him

[TimWoodbury]

with how WCG was talking the last few posts he has jumped up on my unreliable skumdar i know me you and mitch are town so leaves a bunch more to pick from

So until an hour ago you had no scum reads?

honestly between work trying to find replacement for my turny trying to get my car inspected ive honestly not been as into this game as i have past ones ive been in so ive legit not had a clue

[the white rose]

@twr, you don't get town credit for hammering scum for the very reason of what is happening right now. Scum are the only one's who know whether players are scum or not. So it is easy for scum to hammer other scum and be like "look how town I am, I killed scum" when a town player doesn't really know on a lynch, especially on D1. Town lynch other town all the time because they don't know, this doesn't make them scum in the same way that scum lynching scummates (especially when that player is likely to be lynched anyway) doesn't make them town.

yes of course scum will vote scum and even lynch scum, but to lynch them from l-2 with a double vote? without my double vote on dakky he would not have been lynched, streaker unvoted him and then without my vote he would have been at l-3. This is a similare fashion to cyan, the reason he did not get lynched is cos i did not vote him. ...because i simply do not have any definite evidence against him, how could i? he hardly ever posts. But neither do you or kratos or ptlowe, you cannot all be scum, add this to my suspicions of streaker and wing and i did not feel comfortable lynching cyan, at least not just yet.

If town are too scared to hammer for fear of being accused of scum lynching scum then we will never get any lynches

I try look at things through other players eyes,,,,could white rose be scum, sure, anybody could.....what would have to be if he were scum. mitch false claimed and must be my scum buddy....but then no-one has counterclaimed, and no-one has even attacked him.....so if he is cop then twr must be the godfather, with a double vote? how likely is that? the only other option would be a bus driver who swapped the role of twr, lots of coincidences, mitch is cop, bus driver in game, bus driver switched twr and scum lynched scum from l-2....if i were anybody else i would not buy that.....so why does wing think that?

thank you for your post though sausage it was really good to finally hear from you.

On balance I would agree with tim and put him, me and mitch as town, i would also add ragian for his pressure on dakky.....

as to my chief suspects, I find it hard to believe that wing is now town, but that might be cos of lack of experience on my part, anyone else think he is town, anyone else justify his stance against me?

my suspicion on streaker is simply because he accepted dakky's claim as legit, that could have been a mistake and his subsequent accusation of me as godfather just be retalliatory. I admit its not a strong case, but it is a case and is second behind wing.

then you have the 3 not so regular posters, sausage, ptlowe and cyan, to decide on these we need more input from them.

sausage i appreciate your post, now do you think you could tell me why it has taken you so long to do so? and am i now your chief suspect?

cyan, i am sure you are reading this so can i ask you why you are not contributing....do you subscribe to the white rose, double voter scam lyncher godfather/bus driver target? what do you think of wing and streaker, do you have any other thoughts?

ptlowe are you reading this, please post even if its only to confirm you are reading.

Can everybody now make their best guess as to who they think scum are, lets see if we can get this organised

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Agree with Tim about what? Tim hasnt poted anything of any substance at all D2. Whereas Sausages has made multiple high content posts.

Tim - Outright avoided the Dakky lynch and tried to build a mitch lynch instead. Spends D2 avoiding giving an opinion on anyone, yet manages to post one liners all the time without actually putting any thought into his posts it seems.

Kratos - Similarly avoided the Dakky lynch and tried to build a mitch lynch instead. Absent D2.

TheWhiteRose - Very visibly hammered scum and has constanstly lied about his role misleading town.

Pixar - Doesnt care about the game at all

Ptlowe - Absent

Cyan - Absent

[the white rose]

Agree with Tim about what? Tim hasnt poted anything of any substance at all D2.

TheWhiteRose - Very visibly hammered scum and has constanstly lied about his role misleading town.

1. agree with tim that mitch is town and you are scum.

2. only time i have lied is when lynching dakky, had i been truthful it would have been a hard claim, ie, admitting that i am hammerring from l-2 not advisable as it means i may be targetted at night....anyone not claiming is by definition misleading both town and scum....or are you now suggesting everyone should claim?

lets start with you....what is your role and allegiance?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

There is a difference between not disclosing all facts and lying.

No you agreed further, you agreed that tim is also town because he agrees about Mitch.

[the white rose]

so, i want to hammer scum from l-2 how do i do it without disclosing all facts? i have to say i am making him l-1 then scum will not know who is the double voter, or am i supposed to say, hey scum, i am the double voter come and get me.

enough of this senseless arguing, you are scum, i am sure of that. no townie would argue this point like you have been doing. happy to lynch you now.

[b]vote wingcommander[/b]

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

so, i want to hammer scum from l-2 how do i do it without disclosing all facts? i have to say i am making him l-1 then scum will not know who is the double voter, or am i supposed to say, hey scum, i am the double voter come and get me.

enough of this senseless arguing, you are scum, i am sure of that. no townie would argue this point like you have been doing. happy to lynch you now.

[b]vote wingcommander[/b]

You dont hammer. You use your power responsibly.

[the white rose]

No you agreed further, you agreed that tim is also town because he agrees about Mitch.

if you know what i agreed then why the hell are you asking?

i have clearly said

streaker/wing = scum pair
mitch/white rose/tim/radian = town
cyan/sausage/ptlowe= not enough evidence to say

i have fully explained my reasons that are sound, now can others do the same and lets get these scum lynched

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

hmm mitch thi sounds ALOT like retaliation right here, rose votes you for defending IB then you instantly jump onto the dakky bandwagon and connect it with rose defending him

i would say this makes mitch looks even more suspicious

vote mitch

Tim's sole read D1 was that dakky was town and mitch was scum

Tim's sole read D2 is that Mitch is town.

And he votes Cyan.

Vote TimWoodbury

Bet he flips Mafia Busdriver.

[the white rose]

You dont hammer. You use your power responsibly.

ah right, and using my power responsibly to me, means hunting down and lynching scum....doing ok so far, no wonder you are keen to lynch me, even to the extent of asking people to believe that i am a double voting scum lynching mafia godfather, or being bus driven......sorry wing, town ain't buying that.

[ptlowe]

I'm back going to read through and make my reads

[ptlowe]

I got a lot to post will do this afternoon. I forgot about the game till I was proded...sorry all was busy new job and new gf.

[TimWoodbury]

yah know what wcg ur jsut flat out annoying the piss outa me idk if your trying to get lynched maybe its part of your role idk but vote wingcommander

[Cyanineeter]

Agree with Tim about what? Tim hasnt poted anything of any substance at all D2. Whereas Sausages has made multiple high content posts.

Tim - Outright avoided the Dakky lynch and tried to build a mitch lynch instead. Spends D2 avoiding giving an opinion on anyone, yet manages to post one liners all the time without actually putting any thought into his posts it seems.

Kratos - Similarly avoided the Dakky lynch and tried to build a mitch lynch instead. Absent D2.

TheWhiteRose - Very visibly hammered scum and has constanstly lied about his role misleading town.

Pixar - Doesnt care about the game at all

Ptlowe - Absent

Cyan - Absent

Sir, mind putting your sldegehammer away?

[Streaker]

with how WCG was talking the last few posts he has jumped up on my unreliable skumdar i know me you and mitch are town so leaves a bunch more to pick from

How do YOU know rose is town?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Sir, mind putting your sldegehammer away?

As long as the majority of players are happy to vote without thought my sledgehammer is required. You are currently two votes away from being lynched.

Please can you give your opinion on which three players you think are mafia and why. Can you also give your opinion on which three players you think are town and why.

Additionally, why did you contribution to Day1 consist solely of saying you were offended twice? What did you hope to achieve with those posts?

[Streaker]

At the beginning of D2, I had a slight scum read on wing. With Tim's posts, it has become clear that White Rose and Time are 2 scum, wing is town.

Cyaniteer could just really be hanging out the noob. Cyan, CLAIM.

[Streaker]

Wing, we lynch rose over tim or vice versa today?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Wing, we lynch rose over tim or vice versa today?

Tim.

It takes a lot of coincidences for Rose to be mafia. Mitch's investigation has to have been misdirected, which is massive coincidence for one night. Rose may just be making simple mistakes.