Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ Endgame, Scum win!

[pancakemix]

looking back on the scene from yesterday... mafia targeted saf, which means they have a bus-driver, since he was one of them.
thor targeted no one last night, which helps to explain the gods' confusion.

So we have a vig/SK and mafia and neither killed last night?

I accept the fact that mafia could have gotten blocked or a doc saved. But your mason claim with Thor as a vig seems more and more like a stretch to me. Why didn't Thor target anyone?

Well, assuming what vodean says is true, if you were Thor who would you have targeted last night?

Nice redirection. My question to vodean still stands.

Probably everywhere... Although one of the inactives wouldn't have been bad because the inactives make it harder to get a lynch and give mafia more control. However, as I am here as a replacement and Mr. Squirrel has also stepped up, that might be less of an issue at this point.

I didn't ask you to ignore vodean, I asked you who would you have killed. My question still stands as well, and I think it's perfectly valid. All you're really trying to do is WIFOM Thor, which is a game I don't think you should be playing.

Humor my next post, I want something cleared up...

[pancakemix]

Chapcrap is non-town.

[everywhere116]

Very well.

You realize that you owe us an explanation, or at least a case, correct?

[vodean]

Very well.

You realize that you owe us an explanation, or at least a case, correct?

who are you referring to?

[everywhere116]

Pancake.

[chapcrap]

Chapcrap is non-town.

My name is chapcrap.

Nice case, btw.

[pancakemix]

Chapcrap is non-town.

My name is chapcrap.

Nice case, btw.

Not a case. It's a question.

DJ, work your magic.

[pancakemix]

And again, I asked you a question. I don't think it's too much to ask. I assume you have suspects, don't you? If you avoid it again, I'm going to have to vote you.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I'm a little confused with this last bit of reasoning here. Are you suggesting that chap is non-town or are you claiming so? And didn't he already answer whom he would target? Perhaps I missed something.

-Tails

[everywhere116]

I'm a little confused with this last bit of reasoning here. Are you suggesting that chap is non-town or are you claiming so? And didn't he already answer whom he would target? Perhaps I missed something.

-Tails

I think I get it now. DJ has (or at least claims to have, although I have no reason to doubt him) an ability to tell if something in a post is a lie. If pancake says point blank "Chap is non-town", DJ can determine if the statement is a factual lie or truth, and thus determine chap's alignment.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Ah. I'm a little slow on the uptake today. Got it.

-Tails

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How many of those does he have anyhow?
We could get this game wrapped up pretty fast if it's enough.

[vodean]

yeah... he just needs 7 more since can vouch for thor... 8 if we dont want to reveal thor

[pancakemix]

How many of those does he have anyhow?
We could get this game wrapped up pretty fast if it's enough.

My understanding was one a day, but I think it's worth it here.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Alright guys, I'm all read up now. For future reference, here's the claims we have so far:

1. PCM
4. djfireside - Heimdallr - Town Lie Detector (for lack of better name for it)
5. everywhere
6. Tailgunner
7. /
8. Soundman
9. Vodean - Sif - Masons with thor
11. Squirrel - Freyr - Town beloved princess/bomb
12. Chap

I'll wait to see if dj can pull through again before I comment on chap's case. Dj, I suggest you keep using this ability as quick as possible. The mafia will likely be targeting you, and if you can keep clearing townies and catching scum, that would wrap this game up quick.

I'm finding it hard to find things to comment on. It seems like all the cases that have started have either ended in a confirmed claim or in a scum lynch. The only thing that I thought was strange was Tailgunner's incriminating post about chap and /. It seemed to me like he was trying to distract town at the 11th hour. That said, I feel like tails is too good of a mafia player to do something so obvious. If chap gets accused by dj, then I will forget tails' post, but if he comes up town I might want to look into pressuring him.

[chapcrap]

Chapcrap is non-town.

My name is chapcrap.

Nice case, btw.

Not a case. It's a question.

DJ, work your magic.

That's weird. I always thought questions ended with something that looked a lot like this: ?

And again, I asked you a question. I don't think it's too much to ask. I assume you have suspects, don't you? If you avoid it again, I'm going to have to vote you.

I'll answer questions once. If you refuse to read my answer, that's your problem, not mine.

Alright guys, I'm all read up now.

I'll wait to see if dj can pull through again before I comment on chap's case.

Thanks for reading up too! Just want to straighten you out about something though. It wasn't a case. It was a question. I understand the confusion because typically, people end questions with question marks, not periods. For further clarification, you should ask PCM. I don't know if you should use a question mark or not when you ask. I don't understand his rules or grasp of grammar.

[pancakemix]

[quote="chapcrap"]I'll answer questions once. If you refuse to read my answer, that's your problem, not mine.

I missed it before. Your deflection comment threw me off.

Would you mind saying why you would choose everywhere?

And I guess the statement itself is not a question, rather the subject of a question. Or perhaps the answer. Hmm... 42?

[Djfireside]

Sorry I was out at a wedding. I read the last page and noticed I am being referenced so let me get caught up at work and Ill check back through

[Djfireside]

Figured I would give some clarification in reading through this.

My power is not once a day/night I have a limited amount which leaves me with one left.

1) I forced vodean to say that they are town. Granted they thought I was a idiot for asking but they came back truthful.

2) I asked myself if Safari and Clever are town. I got back that I was lying and went after Safari and came back scum.

On my list I can assume vodean is clean because of my power. Clever I can not because, as the logic statement goes, 1 or both could be scum. We know one was but the other is not certain.

[pancakemix]

I see. I won't force you to check that statement if you feel there might be a more pressing question.

[chapcrap]

Figured I would give some clarification in reading through this.

My power is not once a day/night I have a limited amount which leaves me with one left.

1) I forced vodean to say that they are town. Granted they thought I was a idiot for asking but they came back truthful.

2) I asked myself if Safari and Clever are town. I got back that I was lying and went after Safari and came back scum.

On my list I can assume vodean is clean because of my power. Clever I can not because, as the logic statement goes, 1 or both could be scum. We know one was but the other is not certain.

I did mean to comment on this when I read through. You say you forced vodean to say he was town, but he had already stated that. So, when you did that, I found it odd that you had skimmed that... I just had that thought from before.

[Djfireside]

I know that they had said it but I wanted it clean and clear. Didnt want anything in the statement to conflict, just the straight I am town statement. I had a method to what I was doing and thats why I made it blantently stupid of what I was looking for and gathered a FOS for it cause I even thought it looked stupid

[chapcrap]

Fair enough.

[vodean]

does anyone have any cases they would like to present? i am also getting some scummy vibes from chap, but not enough to pressure him without making sure that no one else has any better cases first. Does anyone have any cases they would like to bring forward?

[everywhere116]

does anyone have any cases they would like to present? i am also getting some scummy vibes from chap, but not enough to pressure him without making sure that no one else has any better cases first. Does anyone have any cases they would like to bring forward?

I hear crickets, so that would probably be a no.

Vote chapcrap