NEWBIE MAFIA I-GAME- TOWN WIN!

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:50 am

freezie wrote:Khalis...any last word?

You're at lynch-1 now.

Don't worry about the proper spelling, Freezie. But I do have a question for you, why would you blindly believe him Serbia? What reason have you to think I'm mafia? If you don't trust him, why follow his lead?

Before you all string me up, just remember one thing: you've got NO proof that Serbia really is the cop, except that he says so. Clapper was fairly obviously scummy, any slightly intelligent person could see that.

I've done nothing but try to help the town all game, the only reason why at one point I tried to defend Clapper was because I thought her newness to the game was making her look scummy, not that she actually was...

I'll try one more time; Roleclaim: Townie, plain old townie. I'd quote the PM, but it's against the rules.

I'm not sure what Serbia's motivation is for trying to get me lynched, all I'm asking is that you question his motives before you kill the most outspoken person in the game...

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:54 am

kalishnikov wrote:
Before you all string me up, just remember one thing: you've got NO proof that Serbia really is the cop, except that he says so. Clapper was fairly obviously scummy, any slightly intelligent person could see that.

I've done nothing but try to help the town all game, the only reason why at one point I tried to defend Clapper was because I thought her newness to the game was making her look scummy, not that she actually was...

hmmm nice try at a defence but these two parts contradict each other

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:59 am

nagerous wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Before you all string me up, just remember one thing: you've got NO proof that Serbia really is the cop, except that he says so. Clapper was fairly obviously scummy, any slightly intelligent person could see that.

I've done nothing but try to help the town all game, the only reason why at one point I tried to defend Clapper was because I thought her newness to the game was making her look scummy, not that she actually was...

Very nice catch nagerous.

And Khalis, If he is lying, we lynch him tomorow. We're not at lynch or lose, so it won't hurt that much.

I sitll don't 100% beleive him, but lynching him won't help the town if he is actually the cop. Lynching you will be better, whatever case it is.

hmmm nice try at a defence but these two parts contradict each other

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:00 pm

kalishnikov wrote:
Don't worry about the proper spelling, Freezie.

Excatly why did you say that? I always worry about my spelling when speaking english..

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:44 pm

freezie wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Don't worry about the proper spelling, Freezie.

Excatly why did you say that? I always worry about my spelling when speaking english..

No reason, I just guessed that English wasn't your first language and didn't want you worrying over trying to spell my weird user name.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:46 pm

kalishnikov wrote:
freezie wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Don't worry about the proper spelling, Freezie.

Excatly why did you say that? I always worry about my spelling when speaking english..
No reason, I just guessed that English wasn't your first language and didn't want you worrying over trying to spell my weird user name.

Pretty clever, how did you find out English isn't my first language, Khalisnikov

English wasn't the problem...Lazyness was

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:50 pm

freezie wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
freezie wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Don't worry about the proper spelling, Freezie.

Excatly why did you say that? I always worry about my spelling when speaking english..
No reason, I just guessed that English wasn't your first language and didn't want you worrying over trying to spell my weird user name.

Pretty clever, how did you find out English isn't my first language, Khalisnikov

English wasn't the problem...Lazyness was

It was just an educated guess. The patterns in the words you use and the way you phrase things tell me that your not quite used to our language.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:53 pm

nagerous wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Before you all string me up, just remember one thing: you've got NO proof that Serbia really is the cop, except that he says so. Clapper was fairly obviously scummy, any slightly intelligent person could see that.

I've done nothing but try to help the town all game, the only reason why at one point I tried to defend Clapper was because I thought her newness to the game was making her look scummy, not that she actually was...

hmmm nice try at a defence but these two parts contradict each other

I disagree with this, the first bolded item is me saying she did indeed look scummy. The second bold statement is me saying that even though she looked scummy, I attributed that to her newness as opposed to her mafia role.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:51 pm

Fine Khalisnikov, if you want to play the newbie card to defend your point with Clapper, let's be 2 to play that game.

Serbia is also someone new to this, I am far from thinking he would be able to pull a false cop claim, give away one of his partner, then go on making everyone sure he is the cop.

So, as of now, the odds are against you.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:26 pm

freezie wrote:Fine Khalisnikov, if you want to play the newbie card to defend your point with Clapper, let's be 2 to play that game.

Serbia is also someone new to this, I am far from thinking he would be able to pull a false cop claim, give away one of his partner, then go on making everyone sure he is the cop.

So, as of now, the odds are against you.

Oh yea, definetly. Serbia is more then intelligent enough to pull off a fake claim though, especially with his lucky guess on Clapper... Also, there are several other roles with investigative powers, 1 or 2 of which are mafia roles...

Perhaps a mafia cop going after the rival mafia? The easiest way to play it would be to claim town cop, obviously...

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:50 pm

kalishnikov wrote:
freezie wrote:Fine Khalisnikov, if you want to play the newbie card to defend your point with Clapper, let's be 2 to play that game.

Serbia is also someone new to this, I am far from thinking he would be able to pull a false cop claim, give away one of his partner, then go on making everyone sure he is the cop.

So, as of now, the odds are against you.
Oh yea, definetly. Serbia is more then intelligent enough to pull off a fake claim though, 1)especially with his lucky guess on Clapper... 2)Also, there are several other roles with investigative powers, 1 or 2 of which are mafia roles...

Perhaps a mafia cop going after the 3)rival mafia? The easiest way to play it would be to claim town cop, obviously...

Yes, I totally agree with you. Except for a few points.

There were 13 players in this game.

1)Lucky guess? You contradict yourself there. You are first saying he could be mafia false claiming cop, now you say he is a townie? He is either mafia, either the real cop. It can't be a lucky guess.

2) Yes, there is. Once again, in a game with 13 players, you can get rid of many of those powers. I beleive for a newbie game, the setup would be 2-3 mafias, a cop, a doc and the rest vanilla townies. And no mafia cop..

3)2 mafias? Then he would get rid of a mafia member, helping the town? That sounds good enough for me. But again, I doubt there is 2 mafias in this game.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:55 pm

Damn it Freezie, I know ny theories don't hold water...

I can't very well just sit around and wait for the noose though...

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:58 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Damn it Freezie, I know ny theories don't hold water...

I can't very well just sit around and wait for the noose though...

You tried, that's the important part

But you could drop the hammer on yourself, you know.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:43 pm

freezie wrote:
nagerous wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Before you all string me up, just remember one thing: you've got NO proof that Serbia really is the cop, except that he says so. Clapper was fairly obviously scummy, any slightly intelligent person could see that.

I've done nothing but try to help the town all game, the only reason why at one point I tried to defend Clapper was because I thought her newness to the game was making her look scummy, not that she actually was...

Very nice catch nagerous.

And Khalis, If he is lying, we lynch him tomorow. We're not at lynch or lose, so it won't hurt that much.

I sitll don't 100% beleive him, but lynching him won't help the town if he is actually the cop. Lynching you will be better, whatever case it is.

hmmm nice try at a defence but these two parts contradict each other

I'm guessing that the part I put in bold was supposed to be posted under your name, right Freezie?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:49 pm

Hmm yes Serbia. Wtf happened...lol.

happy2seeyou · Post by **happy2seeyou** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:02 pm

You guys are giving me a headache.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:12 pm

happy2seeyou wrote:You guys are giving me a headache.

but are you going to vote?

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:44 pm

Hmm, in this matter, like many others, I am not sure who to vote.

Clapper was an obvious mafia member, but I, like kalishnikov, mistook it for noobish mistakes. Really, all we have for the lynching of kalishnikov is Serbia's word. The cop could be deadbeat and Serbia is mafia, who decided to sacrifice one of their own to gain our trust, then kill off some power roles. He could be town and took the risk of role-claiming to get Clapper killed, but is now just striking out randomly , hoping to get lucky again. I am not espoucing any of these views, I am just throwing them out there to see what the options are.

I am not yelling "kalishnikov is innocent" at the top of my lungs, what I am doing is appealing to that last voter to slow down a bit and think all the options through. You'd be killing one of the most active members in this game.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:48 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Damn it Freezie, I know ny theories don't hold water...

I can't very well just sit around and wait for the noose though...

read that neutrino either you or happy are scum I think the above quote is almost a written confession, Serbia has given clear evidence to us in catching clapper and has now suggested Kalash is scum. I for one back this and if you don't you are pushing for no lynch of someone a cop has said is scum when he already has caught one scum and has therefore given us a clear indicator of his alignment, in a newbie mafia where there are unlikely to be twists

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:48 pm

Active doesn't mean town. I AM the cop, and I found Kalishnikov to be scum. I had reason to investigate him. He was suspicious to me. Trust me here, and after the second mafia gets lynched, you'll be sure I'm what I say I am. If the doc ever gets killed, I'll be toast, so you'd better do what's right while you have a chance.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:53 pm

nagerous wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:Damn it Freezie, I know ny theories don't hold water...

I can't very well just sit around and wait for the noose though...

read that neutrino either you or happy are scum I think the above quote is almost a written confession, Serbia has given clear evidence to us in catching clapper and has now suggested Kalash is scum. I for one back this and if you don't you are pushing for no lynch of someone a cop has said is scum when he already has caught one scum and has therefore given us a clear indicator of his alignment, in a newbie mafia where there are unlikely to be twists

Wha...?

Im not pushing for no-lynch. I just dont want someone to come in, see kalishnikov is at lynch -1 and just kill him off for that reason alone.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:53 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Serbia is more then intelligent

I didn't see this earlier, but I like it... first time for everything, eh?

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:46 pm

Happy, Neutrino, Pancake, and Kalishnikov, we're waiting on your votes.

I've ID'd the scum, lets get a lynch here. What's the delay? You can't ALL be scum

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:12 pm

Serbia, tell us. Who have you investigated before those 2 nights?

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:21 pm

I've told you. Sheep. Who's now Pancake. Who's not playing. Who's town none-the-less.