[Official]Adventure time mafia:MAFIA WIN!

[TimWoodbury]

okay lynch me im a vanilla townie anyways so im useless to the game from a role stanpoint keep theimportant ones alive im fine ith that

Tim, vanilla townies are probably THE most important role in this game. They get to push cases like crazy, as it won't matter that attention is drawn to them. They get to stirr shit up. They don't have to worry about balancing their act, so they don't get NK'd by scum. They get to protect more important power roles.

Further, there are 0 votes on you yet you feel you need to claim? This is a game about discussions, stop hiding behind power roles and claims and shit.

Tim, one more thing, READ MY POSTS. A result from a cop can get skewed by a godfather, busdriver, redirector, framer and a bunch of other power roles. It's there because this game is NOT called 'follow the cop'. Don't assume anything, trust your reads instead of unconfirmed power roles.

Last 3 pages have completely shifted my reads in this game.
Rose, can you just explain why you chose to lynch dakky at that time, instead of pushing for an actual role claim?

Here are my updated thoughts on Rose: I don't see Rose hammering a scummate from L-2, with deadline approaching quickly. The problem here is that Rose played it very deceptively, which takes away any town credit to be gained from lynching scum.
But it was just too big of a bus to be scummate, imo. That, plus a cop report (which can be skewed, but doesn't have to be), completely busts anything I have on Rose.

That brings me around to a single post that wing made on Tim:

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

hmm mitch thi sounds ALOT like retaliation right here, rose votes you for defending IB then you instantly jump onto the dakky bandwagon and connect it with rose defending him

i would say this makes mitch looks even more suspicious

vote mitch

Tim's sole read D1 was that dakky was town and mitch was scum

Tim's sole read D2 is that Mitch is town.

And he votes Cyan.

Vote TimWoodbury

Bet he flips Mafia Busdriver.

It's a solid post. Rose, what are your thoughts on this?

Fastposted by Rose, Rose please read this post and it should explain yours.

or i could be saying kill me so that 2 impportant people survive

[TimWoodbury]

I really enjoy the postings between TWR and Streaker. Both of you have very valid points and I also know that Tim has said that he believes that I am the cop and believes TWR is town also but how does his belief make him town? It is nice to finally hear from someone else.

ummm i think it makes me town because ummmm i know the differance and how to read town from skum they dont even have any of the same letters so unless i somehow cant read then i know the side i as placed on silly

[TimWoodbury]

how probable is it that wing is right and tim is the bus driver who switched me and i am indeed a mafia doublevoter who lynched dakky to avert suspicion...which is more likely?

Lets be clear here, I am only dealing with the probability of Tim being mafia. The rest we will deal with if someone flips busdriver. Its not me rolling all these things into one. I am dealing solely with the likelihood that Tim is mafia, and I think this is very high.

so agin lynch me and then the townies will see the big ole red bullzeye on streakers and wings head and town will win

[Streaker]

It's an interesting read, Day 1. I suggest everyone does the same.

Mitch, do you remember this one:

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

Tim was clearly struck by it:

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

hmm mitch thi sounds ALOT like retaliation right here, rose votes you for defending IB then you instantly jump onto the dakky bandwagon and connect it with rose defending him

i would say this makes mitch looks even more suspicious

vote mitch

But now it get's interesting.

Tim fires this post at the start of D2:

so mitch soft claimed more or less out of nowhere for more or less no reason at all otehr then to put white rose over as a townie, i think lynch mitch and if he turns skum then lynch rose if its town then w go for streaker or we can do streaker today and if he turns town do mitch then rose

Mitch soft claims cop, and the first thing that Tim wants to do based on that claim is lynch the cop first, and then the target he cleared as town.
Unfortunately, as white rose was all over me at that time, I was focusing all my attention to that and I missed this gem of a post.

This post from Ragian (my biggest town read atm) also confirms the suspicion on Tim (and cyan) thus alligning our reads:

I think Tam's post is suspicious. Surely match is claiming cop as straeker points out. That he's a fool about it isn't indicative about his alignment. I've played with loads of players that are so keen on helping that they jump their respective guns. The suggestion that we lynch match in order to see if the whate ruse is scum is kind of a gamble at this stage. I'm keeping an eye on him.

However, I wanted this yesterday. Now, I want it more: Vote cyan Did nothing yesterday. I think he's a great candidate for a first claim of today. Tam would be my second choice.

FP'ed by straeker twice. STOP POSTING!

Vote Tim

[the white rose]

following your scum buddy, doesn't surprise me at all

[Whatsausage]

@twr, So your biggest town reads are the two players who say the believe you are 100% town, and then you usually throw ragian in as an afterthought town read as well; and your two biggest scum reads are the two players who disagreed with you most of this day. You are still focused mainly on streaker's one comment of "seems legit". A mistake was made, that doesn't make him scum. What if dakky had flipped exactly what he claimed, would that make streaker town and you scum?

As far as the likelihood of both you being a mafia doublevoter and being busdriven, I would argue that if there is a mafia busdriver and you are his scum mate, then the odds are basically 100% that he would busdrive you and you would give a town result. So that really just means what are the odds that scum have/had a roleblocker, double voter, and busdriver. It would be useless to try and place odds on that as we don't know how many scum there even are.

@tim, you still aren't defending yourself or even giving reads. You are just sheeping twr and placing a retaliatory vote on wing; calling him and streaker scum mates. Streaker's last post with that quote is quite convincing. Why the change from wanting to lynch the claimed cop to test it, to believing them both 100%?
@twr, instead of just reiterating that streaker and wing voted together, you should be wondering about this shift, no?

@tim, you keep saying "lynch me" I say, okay. Vote Tim, unless you start really defending yourself.

So Pixar, kratos, and pt have at least promised to rejoin the game (today?) but cyan just returned with another vague post.
I am particularly interested to hear from you all as to if you believe twr has any merit in calling streaker and wing scum.

[the white rose]

@twr, So your biggest town reads are the two players who say the believe you are 100% town, and then you usually throw ragian in as an afterthought town read as well; and your two biggest scum reads are the two players who disagreed with you most of this day. You are still focused mainly on streaker's one comment of "seems legit". A mistake was made, that doesn't make him scum. What if dakky had flipped exactly what he claimed, would that make streaker town and you scum?

As far as the likelihood of both you being a mafia doublevoter and being busdriven, I would argue that if there is a mafia busdriver and you are his scum mate, then the odds are basically 100% that he would busdrive you and you would give a town result. So that really just means what are the odds that scum have/had a roleblocker, double voter, and busdriver. It would be useless to try and place odds on that as we don't know how many scum there even are.

Sausage are you even reading my posts?

i have never said tim is a strong town read, simply that streaker and wing are strong scum reads, based on mistakes they may have made. True, in streaker's case it could have just been a gross misread, but i do not see that.

This mistake was only made at the end of day 1, at the start of day 2 i attacked streaker, before he or wing started reading me as scum, so your argument is flawed, in fact one could say that streaker only called me godfather cos i had accused him of being scum, now he says he believes me town, but i still think he is scum. i consider wing to be his scum buddy as he illogically went after me, first calling me a double voting scum lynching godfather, then when pointed out that godfather would be unlikely to have a double vote, he invented a bus driver, to explain why cop reported me as town. He still, however, has not explained why i used my double vote to lynch dakky from l-2 when under no pressure to do so.

It is true that i am now reading tim as town, but only because the scum pair have realised the futility of trying to get me lynched and have switched targets to tim.

Like tim says, if he is lynched with streaker and wing leading the lynch and he flips town, players may then start to believe me.

[TimWoodbury]

@twr, So your biggest town reads are the two players who say the believe you are 100% town, and then you usually throw ragian in as an afterthought town read as well; and your two biggest scum reads are the two players who disagreed with you most of this day. You are still focused mainly on streaker's one comment of "seems legit". A mistake was made, that doesn't make him scum. What if dakky had flipped exactly what he claimed, would that make streaker town and you scum?

mistake that streaker SHOULDNT have made, streaker is experianced streaker is smart he shouldt have made the "mistake"

@tim, you still aren't defending yourself or even giving reads. You are just sheeping twr and placing a retaliatory vote on wing; calling him and streaker scum mates. Streaker's last post with that quote is quite convincing. Why the change from wanting to lynch the claimed cop to test it, to believing them both 100%?

because like i said go on lynch me least the 2 PR's will survive as im expendable sum cna only pick 2 kill 1 of the 2 of them if im lynched today so im fine taking the bullet

[*Pixar*]

unvote cyan must be newish at this game and not even checking it, would be pretty dumb if he turned out to be scum with limited posts.

I'm starting to think lynch Tim is our best option for day2, if he does turn out to be vanilla townie (which I doubt he will) then we lose barely anything and have a better understanding on who to lynch day3 after the night kills happen.

It's an interesting read, Day 1. I suggest everyone does the same.

Mitch, do you remember this one:

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

Tim was clearly struck by it:

@ WHITE ROSE I knew you were joking about the poem and that is why I posted what I did and did not really think you were scum until you jumped all over me and that was after I made the post about Dakky, you are very protective of Dakky he must be your scum mate so you won't like this VOTE DAKKY

hmm mitch thi sounds ALOT like retaliation right here, rose votes you for defending IB then you instantly jump onto the dakky bandwagon and connect it with rose defending him

i would say this makes mitch looks even more suspicious

vote mitch

I completely agree with Streaker on this one, why would Tim backup dakky so close to a lynch? But yeah Tim seems like our best option rather than lynching a possible power town role.

vote Tim

[the white rose]

remember sausage, this is a team game, even if tim dies and flips town, should town win, then so does tim

we need to see what the others think, will they join with the lynch tim brigade or see streaker and wing for what they really are.

[TimWoodbury]

it is simple please do lynch me and get the day over with then tomarrow you lynch wing and then streaker or streaker and then wing up to yall

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

it is simple please do lynch me and get the day over with then tomarrow you lynch wing and then streaker or streaker and then wing up to yall

There is no rush, so calm down. Same goes for all voters as Tim is at L-2 now. Can you claim your character please Tim.

Tim if you want town to lynch Streaker and I then you are going to have to make a case. So please do so, if you flip town then people will read your argument with understanding of your viewpoint.

Waving a stick and demanding that we are lynched tomorrow will achieve nothing. We can both simply ignore you. Your words carry all the weight of someone who is asking to be lynched. None. If you wont fight to avoid lynch, then its difficult to believe you actually will fight to make a case.

[TimWoodbury]

wing you obviously dont get it when i get lynched and flip town it will show that the 2 people (you and streak) need to be lynched as you are in fact skum and it will be known...

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

wing you obviously dont get it when i get lynched and flip town it will show that the 2 people (you and streak) need to be lynched as you are in fact skum and it will be known...

If you flip town, then all that will be known is that you found me annoying. I'm trying to help you develop your game play here.

[the white rose]

whoa, wing, you are claiming him as mafia bus driver, as the only explanation of me getting an innocent return from mitch.

seems now that tim is at l-2 you are beginning to run scared, make no mistake, if and when tim flips town, your whole case is blown out of the water and you will be seen for what you really are. you might well be able to fool town today, and you may kill me or mitch tonight, but you will not be able to fool them again tomorrow, when first you and then streaker are lynched for an easy town win.

[Endgame422]

Official Vote Count
Cyanineeter(1)ragian
WingCmdr(2)thewhiterose,TimWoodbury
Timwoodbury(4)Wing,streaker,whatsausage,pixar
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is november 6th

[madmitch]

TWR you are the only one I can trust , please explain to me how you are so sure of Tim,

[Ragian]

Christ. I can't believe that I leave you people alone for a weekend saying that you should stop throwing poop at each other and then I get back to five-ish pages of just that.

@Rose, Streaker, Wing, I feel that you guys are measuring dicks right now: "You made this mistake," "Yeah, but you made this mistake." Could we cool that for now? We all realise that you don't believe each other. If anything, I can't believe that Rose is scum. Why would a double voter wanna lynch a scummate at that point? Makes no sense to me anyway. Furthermore, I can't believe that any player would call whoever believes him town and whoever does not scum. That's like saying there's only one true way of looking at the world or some shit like that.

Now, I feel some things are happening here.

1) Cyan clearly has no intention of playing or has not played before. I implore him to ask questions if he has doubts about the game or to say what he feels based on what people are posting. It doesn't get easier than that. If there are no constructive posts, I suggest that we lynch him if no other alternative is digestable.

2) Tim reacted weirdly to one vote and even weirder when mitch softclaimed earlier today. @Tim, why do you think streaker and wing are scum?

We have loads of time so let's use it constructively.

@Pix, what do you think of Tim calling streaker and wing scum?

[madmitch]

nice to hear from a sane mind for once

[the white rose]

@Rose, Streaker, Wing, I feel that you guys are measuring dicks right now: "You made this mistake," "Yeah, but you made this mistake." Could we cool that for now? We all realise that you don't believe each other. If anything, I can't believe that Rose is scum. Why would a double voter wanna lynch a scummate at that point? Makes no sense to me anyway. Furthermore, I can't believe that any player would call whoever believes him town and whoever does not scum. That's like saying there's only one true way of looking at the world or some shit like that.

agreed, it makes no sense to any townie, but streaker has called me godfather and wing continues to believe i am scum and tim is the bus driver, what does that say about them? indeed they both wanted to lynch me but were unable to find support from town, (hardly surprising) so switched their attention to tim instead.

oh and yes, i do have a bigger dick than either streaker or wing, why else do you think i was given a double vote?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Compensation

[TimWoodbury]

Christ. I can't believe that I leave you people alone for a weekend saying that you should stop throwing poop at each other and then I get back to five-ish pages of just that.

@Rose, Streaker, Wing, I feel that you guys are measuring dicks right now: "You made this mistake," "Yeah, but you made this mistake." Could we cool that for now? We all realise that you don't believe each other. If anything, I can't believe that Rose is scum. Why would a double voter wanna lynch a scummate at that point? Makes no sense to me anyway. Furthermore, I can't believe that any player would call whoever believes him town and whoever does not scum. That's like saying there's only one true way of looking at the world or some shit like that.

Now, I feel some things are happening here.

1) Cyan clearly has no intention of playing or has not played before. I implore him to ask questions if he has doubts about the game or to say what he feels based on what people are posting. It doesn't get easier than that. If there are no constructive posts, I suggest that we lynch him if no other alternative is digestable.

2) Tim reacted weirdly to one vote and even weirder when mitch softclaimed earlier today. @Tim, why do you think streaker and wing are scum?

We have loads of time so let's use it constructively.

@Pix, what do you think of Tim calling streaker and wing scum?

its simple streaker+wing=skum because they are coming up with a million and one stupid ass reasons as to how mitch came up with a town read on twr when its really straight forward mitch=cop cop=investigated twr twr=town get it got it good

[TimWoodbury]

Christ. I can't believe that I leave you people alone for a weekend saying that you should stop throwing poop at each other and then I get back to five-ish pages of just that.

@Rose, Streaker, Wing, I feel that you guys are measuring dicks right now: "You made this mistake," "Yeah, but you made this mistake." Could we cool that for now? We all realise that you don't believe each other. If anything, I can't believe that Rose is scum. Why would a double voter wanna lynch a scummate at that point? Makes no sense to me anyway. Furthermore, I can't believe that any player would call whoever believes him town and whoever does not scum. That's like saying there's only one true way of looking at the world or some shit like that.

that is the EXACT reason WHY streaker HAS to be skum WITH Wing because they are making up stupid reasons why what mitch found is wrong like seriously

[ptlowe]

If I had posted yesterday, I would have been pretty hard on trying to lynch TWR. A couple of posts just dont make sense, I felt pretty good about WIng as well.

Reads

Sausage - Just jumping on the bandwagon with votes. Ive seen him do this before and it appeared to be scummy at the time then as well.

Wing - Tracking down scum like he normally does. May not always be right but working hard.

Steaker.....before today I would have sided with you. I now believe Mitch(god help me) on TWR and if that is true you are definately scum. Also, Tim had a similar type reaction to one I have had in another game. I believe him...No excuse for game play as its piss poor but I believe him. I think hes town and your mafia. If you flip town then TWR is mafia simple as that. If TWR flips mafia then obviously so is mitch, but right now I think you got Win on your side and your mafia.

Mitch....I think mitch is playing the best game to date. Hes paying attention and being responsive and making some since.

Tim......you need to get the book Mafia for Dummies and stop doing drugs before you play.

TWR...I only think your town because of Mitch. I have a few posts which are below which make me think your mafia. However, my gut is on streaker right now and I cant shake it.

Ragain...Strongest town read.

Pixar....no idea

CYAN...would be willing to lynch as his posts have been shit and hes more likely mafia then Tim

Kratos...no idea

Iffy TWR posts just because I dug them up yesterday, looks like I will be working on the posts I think streaker is leaning mafia on.


I really didnt like the going back and forth with IB and then IB being killed in the night. TWR was yesterday my highest suspect. However streakers attack on Tim leaves me to believe streaker is mafia. He did the same to me in another game and I cant get away from my gut. I feel like he overplayed his hand on Tim

warning to butterfly:
there was once a scum called butterfly
who said the white rose must die
so the poor chap lost his crown
but then the mod flipped him town
so butterfly was hung out to dry

hmmm, Up until now my votes have been rather flippant to see how others would react to them.

I found it interesting that after my vote and poem on ib, in response to his vote on me.....something rather odd happened, and that is mitch immediately jumped on my case accusing me of finding ib scummy simply because of my vote and poem.

Now I have to wonder why he would do that? would a townie defend someone who could well turn out to be scum? unlikely....yet it seems that mitch is allying with ib so one might think that they are of the same allegiance. If they are then they must be a scum pair...why else would mitch be so keen to defend ib's honour?

Once i explained that my poem and vote was pretty much a joke, and i had already unvoted, he immediately released me from suspicion.

So I now have a great suspicion against mitch and also ib, though i except that ib has done nothing to be suspicious of.

If mitch is lynched, and my suspicions are proved correct then we get 2 scum for the price of one. So I hereby vote mitch, this i can confirm is my first non-joke vote.

This is a good reason why mitch should have investigate TWR. I believe mitch on being cop...Mafia Roleblocker(dakky) is dead and I doubt there is another one so I am assuming TWR is a good guy.

vote streaker

[ptlowe]

White Rose are you the doublevoter? If not Cyan has just been lynched.

Congratulations guys, how about you actually ask questions next time. Lynching someone without attempting to gain evidence is the stupidest thing you can do.

I agree and who were the voters...

Pixar streaker tim ragain...

One of them is mafia