Athkatla Mafia - Talassians [mandy] WIN! (and Koesen)

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:58 am

oh and i dont believe mandy

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:04 am

Syzygy wrote:So now the question is whether to trust Mandy or Cena...

I don't suppose Mandy is up for some more 'divine intervention', explaining why he personally cares and what he means by he is a rogue god.

(As to the rogue god comment, maybe he is Talos. Lathander, Bhaal and Talos were the 3 big chief Gods in Baldur's Gate 2.)

Here's a wikipedia entry on Talos. To me he doesn't sound like the sort of deity I would trust, being fond of destruction and all.

having read this, I'm not exactly all that happy to trust mandy...

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:10 am

Syzygy wrote:So now the question is whether to trust Mandy or Cena...

I don't suppose Mandy is up for some more 'divine intervention', explaining why he personally cares and what he means by he is a rogue god.

(As to the rogue god comment, maybe he is Talos. Lathander, Bhaal and Talos were the 3 big chief Gods in Baldur's Gate 2.)

Here's a wikipedia entry on Talos. To me he doesn't sound like the sort of deity I would trust, being fond of destruction and all.

I read the Wikipedia article, and it dosen't really have anything in there about Talos being a Rogue god.
In fact, it actually says Talos elevates some Necromancers to Lychdom.

Why would he accuse someone of being something he favors?

Anyway, the updated first post suggests Helm, Talos and Lathander as the three gods/cults in this game. Unfortunatly, none of these are very Roguey, so I don't really know who Mandy is.

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:21 am

Neutrino wrote:
Syzygy wrote:So now the question is whether to trust Mandy or Cena...

I don't suppose Mandy is up for some more 'divine intervention', explaining why he personally cares and what he means by he is a rogue god.

(As to the rogue god comment, maybe he is Talos. Lathander, Bhaal and Talos were the 3 big chief Gods in Baldur's Gate 2.)

Here's a wikipedia entry on Talos. To me he doesn't sound like the sort of deity I would trust, being fond of destruction and all.
I read the Wikipedia article, and it dosen't really have anything in there about Talos being a Rogue god.
In fact, it actually says Talos elevates some Necromancers to Lychdom.

Why would he accuse someone of being something he favors?

Anyway, the updated first post suggests Helm, Talos and Lathander as the three gods/cults in this game. Unfortunatly, none of these are very Roguey, so I don't really know who Mandy is.

a rogue compared to the other gods may have been what he meant.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:34 am

mr. incrediball wrote:
a rogue compared to the other gods may have been what he meant.

The1exile wrote: Since I am not only a God but also a Rogue, I say unto you...

The phrasing is wrong to mean a rogue god. My theory is that me means God of Rogues. Unfortunatly, none of the indicated gods are Rogues or even possess any Rogue like qualities.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:35 am

Neutrino wrote:
mr. incrediball wrote:
a rogue compared to the other gods may have been what he meant.

The1exile wrote: Since I am not only a God but also a Rogue, I say unto you...
The phrasing is wrong to mean a rogue god. My theory is that me means God of Rogues. Unfortunatly, none of the indicated gods are Rogues or even possess any Rogue like qualities.

He could just be meaning that he's part of the Rogue State, hence making him a 'rogue' of sorts.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:22 am

Hold up, if NES says he roleblocked Cena and Mandy says Cena killed Spurg.

We know that NES had roleblocking powers, either he got his PM/role mixed up or mandy is lying.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:05 am

Skittles! wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
NESconqueror wrote:
ga7 wrote:Objectively, you can't say the evidence wasn't good. I said it already on day 1, the scummiest was Nes. Now the problem is that every game Nes is in, he accumulates scumtells without ever learning shit, to a level that amazes me. If you want to blame me for his loss, so be it, but regardless of his role I was right in my argument.
The truth and The Unamended is that I was caught up in a fight night one and that I really am Paladin of Lathander! 2 people will be blocked if I survive... That being said, thou shalt think once more before hanging me.
Mind telling us why you committed suicide then?
Modkill?

He asked to be modkilled. Since modkilling is a rather OOC measure (as much as ICvsOOC can come into a mafia game where a lot of evidence is based on metagaming) I preferred to make it something that would fit reasonably within the story.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:07 am

In case you didn't notice/NES forgot to say, his roleblocking didn't go through night one due to getting into a fight with talasians, and so he would have worked twice as hard and blocked 2 people night 2 if he wasn't dead.

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:56 am

so if cena killed spurg, how come the mafia didn't kill anyone?

was it a doc, couldn't they decide, or is mandy lying?

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:06 am

mr. incrediball wrote:so if cena killed spurg, how come the mafia didn't kill anyone?

was it a doc, couldn't they decide, or is mandy lying?

Mandy is lying

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:07 am

cena-rules wrote:
mr. incrediball wrote:so if cena killed spurg, how come the mafia didn't kill anyone?

was it a doc, couldn't they decide, or is mandy lying?
Mandy is lying

Do you have anymore evidence to this apart from telling your role?

I'd rather you not role-claim, but you need a better defence than "mandy is lying"

I also have an instinct that Mandy is lying but yeah.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:08 am

The last couple of pages

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:43 am

vote cena I don't find a much of a defence there cena and your lynch will give us clear indication as to whether to trust mandy or not. Once again de tocqueville's theory will kick in. [/b]

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:45 am

question... what's de Tocqueville's theory?

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:46 am

tyranny of the majority of course... mentioned in your introduction.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:48 am

Vote count?

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:48 am

Oh, OK. Never heard it referred to like that before.

Anyway, continue with the Ochlocracy

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:48 am

nice plato reference

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:53 am

nagerous wrote:nice plato reference

man, you guys make me feel dumb

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:54 am

mr. incrediball wrote:
nagerous wrote:nice plato reference
man, you guys make me feel dumb

Don't worry, I'm with you. But I know who Plato is, I just don't read about him and stuff, but I should.

Anyway;. Vote count?

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:54 am

mr. incrediball wrote:
nagerous wrote:nice plato reference
man, you guys make me feel dumb

WIYF

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:55 am

Okay... Re-read through all of the pages....

It seems to me there is a good chance Mandy is lying, but just as good that he is not.

Cena, however, you really stand out poorly amongst all of this.

For now, I withhold my vote, but it certainly would be aimed at Cena now.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:57 am

cena: koesen, neut, Josh, Kwan, Sierra, nag (6)
ga7: Skittles!, XGSuperstar (2)

with 18 alive it takes 9 to lynch!

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:57 am

Also, the other gods may have something to say, so do bear in mind that other info may be forthcoming.