Conquer Club

Commander9 wrote:Correct if I'm wrong, but hasn't Mandalorian left the town? I've not seen karel post for a while now, so it's also a bit interesting. I've seen Fircoal post a lot, but his vote is still on Mandalorian? hmmm.

I don't tend to use my vote very often unless I'm pretty sure in my conviction or I'm joking around. Thusly I haven't had a reason to unvote Mandy since the very first vote that I put on him at the very beginning. Since he's in no danger of being lynched I'll just keep it on him for the LULZ.

As for Daze, I really don't think that roleblocker is the best of claims in itself. It's easy for a scum to fake as it's a role that there can be many of and it's not uncommon or really out there. It's a simple claim that could be fake or real. Though I will say the tidbit about the doctor does make it seem more authentic in my eyes. Should we act as if she is town and pressure those that were on her wagon or what? We don't want everyone to claim Day 1.

I’m back!!!
Back in town!!!
Don’t have a whole lot of thoughts right now- just wanted to let everyone know I was back in action. I do have some thoughts though.

Thank you herk for taking the time and effort to put together that post.
It is interesting to read and note the arguments that certain players have made. I think that post will prove to be very useful as the game moves on.
I can’t believe I only have 8, I thought I posted a ton before my vacation.

Just thought of something. With a game this size, there must be:
Two different mafia’s.
Most likely a serial killer as well
A third party
Two cops
Two doctors
Some lovers
And apparently some role blockers.

Unvote. I'm not too sure who to point the finger towards now. I still think vio and daze talking to each other is a bit suspicious, maybe someone could investigate them if we can ever get through the day?

Well other than vioIet's theory which is a stretch this early in the game where we have nothing to go by other than pure size of the game (I'd be interested in hearing your explanation as to how you got to that theory Vio especially with no evidence pointing that way). I'm kind of wondering the same thing that Fircoal is. If we do force a second role claim and we find both believable is that at this point helpful for the town? We've potentially exposed the abilities of two town members to the mafia and I really have to wonder how much good that does us. We need information but it is the cost of this information that is bugging me right now.

I haven't fixed the cena rules link, that is why its at 0. Anyway, I don't like the possibility of multiple role claims for day 1, so UNVOTE VOTE NO LYNCH At least until we get a better idea of wtf we are going to do.

It is statistically probable that random lynching will eventually kill the scum. Random lynching! With the info we gather through the lynch process we make the chances much better them merely random. The night will be a slaughter here, the must be at least half a dozen killing roles, there will be SK, mafia, hell maybe even a cult. And nothing says our cops are

A: sane
B: going to uncover anything\

TL:DR no lynch sucks and I am quite comfortable lynching anyone who presses hard for it.

edocsil wrote:TL:DR

Too long: Didn't read?

Are you admitting to not reading and just skimming? You took the time to post, but not to make yourself aware of what is going on? That's some real pro-town behavior...

Thanks for the list, herk. Definitely unvoting, as clearly Jace doesn't have that few posts in comparison to others (though he hasn't posted in awhile). Also, herkman, we've already stated that a no lynch is a terrible idea Day 1. Don't you remember me FOSing AoG for that (as well as skimming)? Seriously, herk, you're hurting yourself by posting so much, I think. Hold back a bit and think before you post, buddy. I won't FoS you on the grounds that I believe you're just a newb townie, but please, THINK.

That's all for now, folks.

-Sully

theherkman wrote:Inactives (Require a nudge from Mr. S)

Click on a player to view all of their posts in this thread, starting with most recent.
I will update this list as needed with colors as people are proven in their roles.

1. fircoal - 22
2. edocsil - 18
3. victor sullivan - 14
4. ga7 - 12
5. Theherkman - 51
6. pmchugh - 7
7. Army of God - 15
8. lalaland - 1
9. freezie - 18
10. vioiet - 8
11. haggis_mcmutton - 16
12. cena-rules - 2 <--------------UPDATED//FIXED
13. Ta1lgunn3r - 16
14. Floresdelmal - 10
15. commander9 - 21
16. thesaxlad - 21
17. sensfan - 4 <---------Serious scum - Click the link
18. karelpietertje - 2
19. strike wolf - 25
20. iliad - 1 <-----------I know he posted today, but that was his first post.
21. nagerous - 10
22. / - 6
23. spiesr - 21
24. jace22 - 10
25. aceartemis - 1
26. naxus - 4
27. thezzaruz - 3
28. mandalorian2298 - 3 <----------------Wants to be replaced
29. blakebowling - 8
30.dazerazer - 8

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EBWOP

Also, with a 30 player NV mafia, there may be a punisher. Just a heads up.

theherkman wrote:

edocsil wrote:TL:DR

Too long: Didn't read?
Are you admitting to not reading and just skimming? You took the time to post, but not to make yourself aware of what is going on? That's some real pro-town behavior...

I am pretty sure that he put that there as a summary of his own post. Presumably simply because he wanted to reiterate his point rather than him actually thinking anyone would find his post too long to read.

theherkman wrote:Anyway, I don't like the possibility of multiple role claims for day 1, so UNVOTE VOTE NO LYNCH At least until we get a better idea of wtf we are going to do.

While I understand your desire to not force out too many people by blind action on day 1, Voting no lynch at this point seems like an overreaction, especially since your reasoning appears to be that you want to wait and see what happens. Wanting too wait and decide isn't exactly an argument for voting to end the day without a lynch. It works as a reason for unvoting though.

VioIet wrote:Just thought of something. With a game this size, there must be:
Two different mafia’s.
Most likely a serial killer as well
A third party
Two cops
Two doctors
Some lovers
And apparently some role blockers.

I don't see how you have come to the conclusion that two full scum groups would be in this game. While the game is large enough to have some sort secondary antagonist, such as a serial killer or cult of some sort, in my opinion a full second mafia group wouldn't really fit well with the theme and whatnot that we have seen so far. Usually multiple scum factions tend to be almost an advertised part of a game featuring them. As for the various duplicate roles, in my opinion, it seems more likely that Mr.Squirrel would employ some of the lesser known, perhaps lower powered, roles than filling this game with a bunch of exact copies of powers. That being said, differing sanities of roles such as cops seems to be probable.

Commander9 wrote:I hate to say this, but herk does have a point about some (particularly sensfan).

Just because you have your argument with him doesn't mean that he can't be right about things. You shouldn't disregard his theories just because they come from him. Unless of course, that you truly believe him to be scum, then you should look at what he says with the possibility that it is all deliberate lies trying to spread false information incorrect leads.

Victor Sullivan wrote:Seriously, herk, you're hurting yourself by posting so much, I think. Hold back a bit and think before you post, buddy. I won't FoS you on the grounds that I believe you're just a newb townie, but please, THINK.

I think that he should keep posting stuff. He might turn up something valuable eventually. Or he could say enough scummy things to make a valid case against himself. Although, I will say that if his posts aren't thought out then he risks burning us out to the point where we just kinda disregard whatever he says...

theherkman wrote:Also, with a 30 player NV mafia, there may be a punisher. Just a heads up.

What is this role? I am not familiar with it, at least not the name, and a quick search does not reveal anything about it...

I don't think I've ever seen a Punisher in any of the games I've been in someone may have to explain what that role is...and spiesr, he pretty much is already burning himself out at this point. I am still reading his posts but with all the half-thought out ones he's mentioned in the past it's becoming more and more difficult for me to actually pay any real attention to his votes or summaries.

P.S. Spiesr ironic that I get fast posted by a question about a role that I was about to ask about

spiesr wrote:

theherkman wrote:Also, with a 30 player NV mafia, there may be a punisher. Just a heads up.

What is this role? I am not familiar with it, at least not the name, and a quick search does not reveal anything about it...

Punisher kills the first role claim of the day when the night round starts.

Well if there is one of those we might not need to replace mandy...

I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following your line of reasoning. Care to expound? Also in some games the punisher can choose between any role claimers of the day.

Well as I remember it (I still need to get around to rereading) but Mandy was the first role claim (fake or not)

herk, what is a punisher? I've never heard of that role before.

And strikewolf, tell me what theory are you referencing? I don't believe I've given a ridiculous theory yet in this game.

I just checked, mandy never claimed, only 3 posts.

Also, as I said above a punisher is able to kill someone who roleclaimed during the day as their night action.

VioIet wrote:I’m back!!!
Back in town!!!
Don’t have a whole lot of thoughts right now- just wanted to let everyone know I was back in action. I do have some thoughts though.

Thank you herk for taking the time and effort to put together that post.
It is interesting to read and note the arguments that certain players have made. I think that post will prove to be very useful as the game moves on.
I can’t believe I only have 8, I thought I posted a ton before my vacation.

Just thought of something. With a game this size, there must be:
Two different mafia’s.
Most likely a serial killer as well
A third party
Two cops
Two doctors
Some lovers
And apparently some role blockers.

THis theory and maybe stop skimming as Herk just mentioned what a punisher was.

FOS: vio for skimming.

mandalorian2298 wrote:

Victor Sullivan wrote:Omg Mandy's at L-13! I think he should claim

Fine.

I'm a Chess player. I win if I mate the opponent's king.

This claim...still I don't know why I'm spending so much explaining a bad joke I made. :S

spiesr wrote:Just because you have your argument with him doesn't mean that he can't be right about things. You shouldn't disregard his theories just because they come from him. Unless of course, that you truly believe him to be scum, then you should look at what he says with the possibility that it is all deliberate lies trying to spread false information incorrect leads.

I honestly doubt his good intentions to the town, but some of these posts definitely have been useful, so we'll see. However, another thing strikes me - if he's new to the game, how come he knows what punisher is and most of people don't?

The link given when I asked what omgus was led me to a mafia wiki and I perused for quite some time.

Fair enough here.