Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

[nagerous]

Hopefully we have a reliable medic in the building who will be able to prevent that from happening.

[new guy1]

Right... I appreciate that it was a weak post, especially by the meticulous standards that I have shown to represent in previous games. I have become somewhat Don Draperesque when it comes to my treatment of Mafia games. When I choose to concentrate and apply myself to them I set a high standard and have full focus, when I am distracted I have less inclination to post proficiently... perhaps a bandwagon against me is the impetus I need to be more involved. I appreciate where you are coming from, but mostly I was in agreement with Flores previous post on why the current lynch set up works and what I wanted to say had been said previously. It keeps us on our toes and does not allow the game to stagnate which was one of the reasons I became disinterested in mafia games previously as all the games I was in seemed to die (or I died early). Which star wars game are you referring to btw, the only one I can think of is NJO where I was the pro-town hero and you were the mafia . I didn't feel the case against Jonty was strong enough and called out TFO as one of the vote hoppers, but appear to be wrong on this case. I will need to do some further analysis on the bandwagoners/scumariners as well to find out who is now most suspicious in my eyes.


Right by my count today, it is 4 votes to me and it is 12 to lynch, I don't feel that is enough for me to claim, but in the interests of keeping this game moving at a fast pace, which is all the more crucial when we have a dropping lynch count and a particular individual to catch I am willing to rethink about claiming over the next 24 hours.

The longer you say you will claim, but don't, the longer the focus will be on you...and the game will be unable to move on. Unless of course, you come up with a new case on someone.

Ah, what the heck...Vote Nagerous Let's get the claim and move on, if needed. I would hate to see us stall while we wait for this claim.

Captain Eleanor Varrot and I am the squad 7 enabler so in the case of my death, none of the members of squad 7 will be able to perform their night actions.

Happy now?

Im going to guess that squad 7 was not explained to you or you do not wish to reveal more? I believe your claim, just wondering what squad 7 is.

[rishaed]

Right... I appreciate that it was a weak post, especially by the meticulous standards that I have shown to represent in previous games. I have become somewhat Don Draperesque when it comes to my treatment of Mafia games. When I choose to concentrate and apply myself to them I set a high standard and have full focus, when I am distracted I have less inclination to post proficiently... perhaps a bandwagon against me is the impetus I need to be more involved. I appreciate where you are coming from, but mostly I was in agreement with Flores previous post on why the current lynch set up works and what I wanted to say had been said previously. It keeps us on our toes and does not allow the game to stagnate which was one of the reasons I became disinterested in mafia games previously as all the games I was in seemed to die (or I died early). Which star wars game are you referring to btw, the only one I can think of is NJO where I was the pro-town hero and you were the mafia . I didn't feel the case against Jonty was strong enough and called out TFO as one of the vote hoppers, but appear to be wrong on this case. I will need to do some further analysis on the bandwagoners/scumariners as well to find out who is now most suspicious in my eyes.


Right by my count today, it is 4 votes to me and it is 12 to lynch, I don't feel that is enough for me to claim, but in the interests of keeping this game moving at a fast pace, which is all the more crucial when we have a dropping lynch count and a particular individual to catch I am willing to rethink about claiming over the next 24 hours.

The longer you say you will claim, but don't, the longer the focus will be on you...and the game will be unable to move on. Unless of course, you come up with a new case on someone.

Ah, what the heck...Vote Nagerous Let's get the claim and move on, if needed. I would hate to see us stall while we wait for this claim.

Captain Eleanor Varrot and I am the squad 7 enabler so in the case of my death, none of the members of squad 7 will be able to perform their night actions.

Happy now?

Yes. Unvote WE will need several more claims over the day to continue. Thank you for cooperating. Also agree on the medic thingie, hopefully no special night shenanigans are going to happen to prevent the medic from keeping you alive.... I need to think who to vote next. Kratos is somewhat scummy to me, but need more time to build a case on someone.
fp'd Vote NG Is that really relevant? Shes been in the past two scenes, and unless nag has special info the rest of us don't have that is highly important to today, I suggest moving on instead of focusing on him today still.

[nagerous]

Right... I appreciate that it was a weak post, especially by the meticulous standards that I have shown to represent in previous games. I have become somewhat Don Draperesque when it comes to my treatment of Mafia games. When I choose to concentrate and apply myself to them I set a high standard and have full focus, when I am distracted I have less inclination to post proficiently... perhaps a bandwagon against me is the impetus I need to be more involved. I appreciate where you are coming from, but mostly I was in agreement with Flores previous post on why the current lynch set up works and what I wanted to say had been said previously. It keeps us on our toes and does not allow the game to stagnate which was one of the reasons I became disinterested in mafia games previously as all the games I was in seemed to die (or I died early). Which star wars game are you referring to btw, the only one I can think of is NJO where I was the pro-town hero and you were the mafia . I didn't feel the case against Jonty was strong enough and called out TFO as one of the vote hoppers, but appear to be wrong on this case. I will need to do some further analysis on the bandwagoners/scumariners as well to find out who is now most suspicious in my eyes.


Right by my count today, it is 4 votes to me and it is 12 to lynch, I don't feel that is enough for me to claim, but in the interests of keeping this game moving at a fast pace, which is all the more crucial when we have a dropping lynch count and a particular individual to catch I am willing to rethink about claiming over the next 24 hours.

The longer you say you will claim, but don't, the longer the focus will be on you...and the game will be unable to move on. Unless of course, you come up with a new case on someone.

Ah, what the heck...Vote Nagerous Let's get the claim and move on, if needed. I would hate to see us stall while we wait for this claim.

Captain Eleanor Varrot and I am the squad 7 enabler so in the case of my death, none of the members of squad 7 will be able to perform their night actions.

Happy now?

Im going to guess that squad 7 was not explained to you or you do not wish to reveal more? I believe your claim, just wondering what squad 7 is.

It makes me slightly suspicious that you don't know what this is.. A simple read of the wiki should give you enough information on what squad 7 is. In fact for now you seem like the best case for now, the only defence I can see right now is that I can't imagine scum being dumb enough to self-incriminate like this.

[new guy1]

Right... I appreciate that it was a weak post, especially by the meticulous standards that I have shown to represent in previous games. I have become somewhat Don Draperesque when it comes to my treatment of Mafia games. When I choose to concentrate and apply myself to them I set a high standard and have full focus, when I am distracted I have less inclination to post proficiently... perhaps a bandwagon against me is the impetus I need to be more involved. I appreciate where you are coming from, but mostly I was in agreement with Flores previous post on why the current lynch set up works and what I wanted to say had been said previously. It keeps us on our toes and does not allow the game to stagnate which was one of the reasons I became disinterested in mafia games previously as all the games I was in seemed to die (or I died early). Which star wars game are you referring to btw, the only one I can think of is NJO where I was the pro-town hero and you were the mafia . I didn't feel the case against Jonty was strong enough and called out TFO as one of the vote hoppers, but appear to be wrong on this case. I will need to do some further analysis on the bandwagoners/scumariners as well to find out who is now most suspicious in my eyes.


Right by my count today, it is 4 votes to me and it is 12 to lynch, I don't feel that is enough for me to claim, but in the interests of keeping this game moving at a fast pace, which is all the more crucial when we have a dropping lynch count and a particular individual to catch I am willing to rethink about claiming over the next 24 hours.

The longer you say you will claim, but don't, the longer the focus will be on you...and the game will be unable to move on. Unless of course, you come up with a new case on someone.

Ah, what the heck...Vote Nagerous Let's get the claim and move on, if needed. I would hate to see us stall while we wait for this claim.

Captain Eleanor Varrot and I am the squad 7 enabler so in the case of my death, none of the members of squad 7 will be able to perform their night actions.

Happy now?

Im going to guess that squad 7 was not explained to you or you do not wish to reveal more? I believe your claim, just wondering what squad 7 is.

It makes me slightly suspicious that you don't know what this is.. A simple read of the wiki should give you enough information on what squad 7 is. In fact for now you seem like the best case for now, the only defence I can see right now is that I can't imagine scum being dumb enough to self-incriminate like this.

I read no wiki, and I dont remember scenes nor opening posts after they have been discussed/analyzed by myself at least. I forgot about squad 7 as a consequence.

I wouldnt go as far to say I am dumb, as I am sure we have all forgotten something. To Rishaed. If you are saying squad 7 is a she, then you have further confused me. The question was quite relevant because I did not remember who the hell squad 7 was. I was trying to get more information because I dont know if it is a set squad, growing squad, shrinking squad or otherwise, and I WANTED TO GATHER INFORMATION. Have you all, GATHERED INFORMATION? I am pissed off because I havent had the best past couple of days, really not the best week, and so my temper is a little short. If you all dont like my defense (which Im sure since only half the players are posting in this game anyways), then I will be HAPPY to claim with more pressure. As I dont have a case to provide a better basis, Ill wait till claim time. Dont say Im resigning as a point because I am not. I literally cant do anything right now, my hands are tied. These uninformed posts are always the things to get me to claim, so I know how this is going down. Now watch as everyone flocks to submit a vote on the grounds of "he doesnt know what squad 7 is!" and they get away with it.


Actually, didnt neb post a list of people who would fit an assumed profile of the guy who we're looking for today? Oh well, thats assumed. Ill stop blabbing, and please read the above with heavy sarcasm, it is my primary language in these situations. Its part of my meta, and Ive said that several times.

[spiesr]

Newguy, Squad 7 is the group that the the player controls in the game. Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO all had characters who were in it. I am skeptical about the claim right now, simply because I expect the majority of the town to be in Squad 7, as such having it all tied to an enabler seems weird.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Newguy, Squad 7 is the group that the the player controls in the game. Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO all had characters who were in it. I am skeptical about the claim right now, simply because I expect the majority of the town to be in Squad 7, as such having it all tied to an enabler seems weird.

UNVOTE

I believe the claim. Let's move on.

[new guy1]

Newguy, Squad 7 is the group that the the player controls in the game. Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO all had characters who were in it. I am skeptical about the claim right now, simply because I expect the majority of the town to be in Squad 7, as such having it all tied to an enabler seems weird.

That makes no sense. Which player? I know what an enabler is if you think I was confused on that. I dont think we all control squad 7, I feel like a group of players makes up squad 7, but it is not an all inclusive group. I dont know why, but I dont think having an enabler that kills all night actions for everyone in the game would make sense. Are you completely sure that squad 7 included those three, or were they just town? I know you're skeptical, but what you're saying here doesnt make logical sense. Everyone is in squad 7, no leader or anything, we cant communicate like a squad typically would (may just be how MM set up the game, this is just thoughts on it), but yet is nag dies we all lose our night actions? Sounds a little too detrimental.

[nagerous]

My point new guy wasn't that you were dumb, just that if you were scum it would have been dumb to self incriminate by asking such a question as to what squad 7 is when as spiesr put it the majority of the players are likely to be in squad 7.

Indeed spiesr to have all the night actions to one individual does seem overpowered so that is why it is vital that I am kept alive. You may be sceptical of the claim but are you sceptical of the name claim to go with it? As rishaed put it I have been referenced in the past couple of scenes.

[new guy1]

My point new guy wasn't that you were dumb, just that if you were scum it would have been dumb to self incriminate by asking such a question as to what squad 7 is when as spiesr put it the majority of the players are likely to be in squad 7.

Indeed spiesr to have all the night actions to one individual does seem overpowered so that is why it is vital that I am kept alive. You may be sceptical of the claim but are you sceptical of the name claim to go with it? As rishaed put it I have been referenced in the past couple of scenes.

I am not skeptical of your claim nor your role. I am skeptical of who your death applies to. And I am not saying that you know who all you control. I am saying I dont think all town players are in it, and I dont think the majority is in it. I dont know, I just dont feel like even the majority of players would take away enough power from that role.

[nagerous]

My point new guy wasn't that you were dumb, just that if you were scum it would have been dumb to self incriminate by asking such a question as to what squad 7 is when as spiesr put it the majority of the players are likely to be in squad 7.

Indeed spiesr to have all the night actions to one individual does seem overpowered so that is why it is vital that I am kept alive. You may be sceptical of the claim but are you sceptical of the name claim to go with it? As rishaed put it I have been referenced in the past couple of scenes.

I am not skeptical of your claim nor your role. I am skeptical of who your death applies to. And I am not saying that you know who all you control. I am saying I dont think all town players are in it, and I dont think the majority is in it. I dont know, I just dont feel like even the majority of players would take away enough power from that role.

It is for members of squad 7, so for instance Jonty's character wouldn't have been in it but Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO would have been. There seems to be some form of mechanism in place where they start as recruits with no powers, then have additional powers granted as the game extends.. so the first guys that died for instance just have ??? next to their name, TFO later was given Watcher powers.. or that is at least what I have been able to interpret from the roles next to their deaths.

So if you are not a member of squad 7 where does your loyalty lie?

[nagerous]

Newguy, Squad 7 is the group that the the player controls in the game. Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO all had characters who were in it. I am skeptical about the claim right now, simply because I expect the majority of the town to be in Squad 7, as such having it all tied to an enabler seems weird.

That makes no sense. Which player? I know what an enabler is if you think I was confused on that. I dont think we all control squad 7, I feel like a group of players makes up squad 7, but it is not an all inclusive group. I dont know why, but I dont think having an enabler that kills all night actions for everyone in the game would make sense. Are you completely sure that squad 7 included those three, or were they just town? I know you're skeptical, but what you're saying here doesnt make logical sense. Everyone is in squad 7, no leader or anything, we cant communicate like a squad typically would (may just be how MM set up the game, this is just thoughts on it), but yet is nag dies we all lose our night actions? Sounds a little too detrimental.

The player in the computer game, the game has a similar mechanism to command and conquer I believe?

[new guy1]

Newguy, Squad 7 is the group that the the player controls in the game. Edocsil, Lootifer and TFO all had characters who were in it. I am skeptical about the claim right now, simply because I expect the majority of the town to be in Squad 7, as such having it all tied to an enabler seems weird.

That makes no sense. Which player? I know what an enabler is if you think I was confused on that. I dont think we all control squad 7, I feel like a group of players makes up squad 7, but it is not an all inclusive group. I dont know why, but I dont think having an enabler that kills all night actions for everyone in the game would make sense. Are you completely sure that squad 7 included those three, or were they just town? I know you're skeptical, but what you're saying here doesnt make logical sense. Everyone is in squad 7, no leader or anything, we cant communicate like a squad typically would (may just be how MM set up the game, this is just thoughts on it), but yet is nag dies we all lose our night actions? Sounds a little too detrimental.

The player in the computer game, the game has a similar mechanism to command and conquer I believe?

Didnt quote the top quote. I am quite sure how the recruit mechanism works, but I would think they had to be recruited, leading me to believe there is a town cult (since squad 7 is the good guys [right?]). Tbh I was never referred to either side, the Federation and the other one (Empire, right?), nor any other specified group. All I really know is that I am the brother of someone in the series, but I dont know if they are in the game. My role is not connected to theirs, it was just flavor. I know my family as well, and so I will look into the wiki right quick just to check and see if I CAN clear it up, and will get back to you...

I will say once again, I DONT THINK EVERYONE WHO IS TOWN IS IN SQUAD 7.

[nagerous]

I didn't say they were... like I said jonty's character was pro-town but not a member of squad 7

[new guy1]

Okay, my character in the wiki is in squad 7, but I was not notified that I was in squad 7 when I got my role. Sorry for the confusion, and I understand if it leads to my claim, as I am obviously having a shitty day with wording.

fastposted- and I know you didnt, I am bolding that for the record and whatever else you take it for .

[Nebuchadnezer]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

[nagerous]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

Not a clue, all I have been told is that being alive allows people to use their powers. I haven't got any night actions of my own.

[new guy1]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

Not as long as you keep pissing me off. Trying to stop a person with a loaded phrase? Ridiculous...

[rishaed]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

At least with his flailing I have an accurate read on him. It'd have to be pretty elaborate ploy otherwise. unvote

[new guy1]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

At least with his flailing I have an accurate read on him. It'd have to be pretty elaborate ploy otherwise. unvote

So we have at least one player using their brain...

[new guy1]

Nag, do you actually trigger our abilities? Or do you know how the trigger mechanism works?

Newguy...are you done flailing about like a bull in a china shop? Ridiculous...

At least with his flailing I have an accurate read on him. It'd have to be pretty elaborate ploy otherwise. unvote

So we have at least one player using their brain...

Right after posting, I changed my mind on this. Dont take it as an insult anyone, it was said in anger and haste.

[Anarkistsdream]

Well..... Unvote

My only other lead was the issue with Iron Butterfly...

I won't vote him right away, so as not to be accused of "vote hopping." Instead, I would like to hear what all of you have to say about it.

[new guy1]

Spoiler

Okay, reread. One thing was clear...town has been playing pretty poorly. The lynches on Edoc and Jonty were easily the best lynches. I was actually bothered by the fact that Jonty wasn't lynched immediately for his poor performance...yet Virus played even more poorly so as to draw attention to himself and force another easy claim. But I won't dwell on that as we need to find this Townsend character.

Here are some things I found...
Vote counts

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Day 1, 1st count

Votey County:

virus90 - 1 (Flores)
gregwolf121 - 2 (James, TFO)
rishaed - 1 (Lootifer)
Commander9 - 2 (HotShot, ga7)
Lootifer - 1 (jonty)
HotShot53 - 1 (epic pie)
JamesKer1 - 2 (new guy, rish)
ga7 - 2 (TWO, edocsil)

2 Nights have passed, so it takes 16 to lynch

Day 1, 2nd count
Votey County:

virus90 - 1 (Flores)
gregwolf121 - 2 (James, TFO)
rishaed - 1 (Lootifer)
Commander9 - 2 (HotShot, ga7)
Lootifer - 1 (jonty)
HotShot53 - 1 (epic pie)
JamesKer1 - 2 (new guy, rish)
ga7 - 1 (TWO)
Flores - 1 (Nark)
Anarkistsdream - 1 (edocsil)

Day 2, 1st count
Votey County:

safariguy5 - 2 (Anarkistsdream, kratos)
Anarkistsdream - 1 (gregwolf)
jonty125 - 6 (ga7, Flores, TWO, TFO, new guy1, Iron Butterfly
TheForgivenOne - 5 (For not having best pony as avatar)

Day 2, 2nd count
jonty125 - 9 (ga7, TWO, new guy1, TFO, Flores, rishaed, safari, virus, Iron Butterfly)

9 Days have passed. That means 9 to lynch. That's a lynchin' folks!

I don't know that I find any patterns as I said the lynchees were pretty good targets.

MINISTER...if we are going to have this countdown lynch in place, you need to have more vote counts on a regular basis. It's a little ridiculous that you've posted only 4 votes counts, when they are so crucial with the counter ticking.

Other notes:

Newguy admits to not posting a lot, relying on his meta to clear him. However on D1 there was this post of his...Everyone had clearly discussed edoc's post and vote, etc., yet newguy brings it up like he's just found some hidden gem...even says nobody was looking at edoc...very odd.

Sorry for the lack of posts. Thanksgiving and all that threw me for a loop, but I have managed to keep up. I want to Unvote as it just seems weird to still have my joke vote applied. Unfortunately, I have nothing to add after my absence, but I do find edoc's post peculiar:

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Hell, half of America won't post between now and Sunday.

Exactly... It is a national holiday here, and it isn't as if Flores was ignorant of that fact....

Vote: Flores

unvote Vote anark

Few reasons.

1. He is voting in red, red doesn't count, ergo either his vote is not serious, or he is not paying attention, or he doesn't intend to actually lynch flores.

2. I don't understand why he would vote for her in the first place, her wanting a replacement was unrealistic, not scummy.

In short, Anarks vote didn't make sense, so I'm voting for him.

That one ^

But I see its been overlooked by many. I dont know if this is cause hes a vet, or he gave reasons, but I didnt see reasons. For now, its just something for me to remember, but other than that, hope everyone enjoyed their holidays/lack of them.

fp

Nag's lack of posting and his waffling on Jonty caught my attention as well. Jonty was pretty self-incriminating with his posts and claims. He should have been hung much sooner.

Then there is Anarkistsdream. He has been leading town so far...and so far seems to be doing okay...except that he keeps throwing in false "facts" that are just confusing...

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So, here we go... My list of thoughts and stuff...
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Virus not being able to post is a HUGE hindrance to this day. He is certainly as vocal as me, and has been bringing up very good points.
Virus has been all over the board, and almost attained his own lynch by his stupid play.(no offense virus) He may have been vocal, but the dude is a scattershot with most of his posts, and is just kicking up dust. We'll be fine without him for a day.
This means that the rest of the town needs to step it up... There are a few ways we can attain this:
1) We can actually talk about our abilities. I hate to say this, because I don't want to give too much info out, but it seems fair to say that a large majority of us have multiple abilities, which unlock as the days progress. I ASSUME some of us have some fairly cool powers that would greatly benefit the town, and we may have to use them in UNISON to get the appropriate response- Townshends death. It is something to discuss, in any case.
Yikes...I think I see what you're claiming here, but it's a far stretch to assume that there are multiple players with day abilities here. This can come across as rolefishing, but I won't push it as you have stated that you can provide something for us today.

2) Keep doing things the way we are doing them. This is the BAD idea, as we have been sucking.
3) Maybe one of you already has a bead on Townshend OR the princess... If you do, you need to come forward... Maybe subtly at first, but do NOT let people be blind to your hints... This day could already put us at a Lynch or Lose scenario, as we are unsure what happens if we do NOT save Virus.

#2 and #3...No kidding!

Nagerous... A good solid internet friend who I think I have come to know decently, especially in his play style of Mafia. I am QUITE intrigued at his lack of posting, but, at this point, what really gets me is his

Yay, why not.

Scum would LOVE to have the days continue on as they do... It is assisting them greatly in this game. Now, in future games, we will be more aware of it.. .Hell, in the future of THIS game, we will be more ready for it. But, admittedly, this has been a hard game due to the voting system (which I still love for previous given reasons) In any case, Nagerous blithely threw his vote in without so much as a reacharound... His previous posts have lacked substance also... Now, it is Christmas and I know several of us are pretty much drunk the whole holiday season, but... C'mon, Nag... Make me BELIEVE... Like Justin Bieber...

Are you kidding me, here? You also vote "yay"! Yet you tear Nagerous apart like a rabid dog for his vote?!?! I understand he was brief, but come on...


Vote: Nagerous

Second to last, Townshend appears to be Federation, correct? He was the Federation ambassador to Gallia, where Cordelia was soon to be in charge? Anybody stop me if I am wrong. So, the Federation=Empire, right? Assuming we are looking at this from a Star Wars point of view? So, if anybody has any Federation Investigation powers, this would be the time to use them.

Brutal. Terrible misunderstanding of this setup.

And, finally, I will repost my last thought from my previous post, as it still is just as disconcerting to me.

Lastly, if what was claimed about the princess is true, then she is a Cleric, ie, can't cast the hammer vote... So, while it would suck to lose her, it would suck way more if she were a beloved princess. Either way, I don't see how the Empire would care one way or the other whether or not she lives... What do they have to gain by keeping her alive? In fact, it seems to me that NOT lynching this Townshend person would be more advantageous as it would auto-kill a townie- the princess, and they would get their night to raise more hell.

Second to last, Townshend appears to be Federation, correct? He was the Federation ambassador to Gallia, where Cordelia was soon to be in charge? Anybody stop me if I am wrong. So, the Federation=Empire, right? Assuming we are looking at this from a Star Wars point of view? So, if anybody has any Federation Investigation powers, this would be the time to use them.

I feel I should answer this since it's to do with the theme.

Short answer: No.
Long answer: No, you blithering clot. Everything should be clear from the synopsis post on page 1. Your Star Wars comparison is useless; think more in terms of WW2. Federation is Allies (except more nefarious), Empire is Axis (still racist), and Gallia is like Belgium (Neutral, but more bad-ass).

So, this confirms ga7's suspicions that we certainly will have AT LEAST 3 factions in the game... That also makes me ASSUME that his thoughts on what will happen if we do NOT save Cordelia are correct. It may not be a Beloved princess in the grandiose sense, but it will certainly mean a huge advantage to the Empire.

So, if I view this as WWII, it really seems like both the Federation AND the Empire are evil... So, the only people that can be trusted are Gallians... However, Jonty's character came up blue, and he was NOT Gallian, so maybe we DO only have two or three factions, but the characters making up that faction may not be all huggy kissy with one another...

And now this? Jonty was clearly Gallian. Quit effing up the setup! It just cause confusion and gets us off track!

So, the only thing I could figure, as I have no real leads are the following:

1. Get Nag's claim...although, I'm quite sure we'll see a Gallian claim, but at least we can unvote him.
2. Look at the following four players...who, after Virus's claim all unvote and voted for Jonty. My thinking is that Townshend, having found the Princess would unvote and get a lynch quickly, so he could kidnap the Princess at night. Those four that fit this pattern are:

Flores, rishaed, safariguy, and kratos

Of these, I would order them safariguy, kratos, Flores and rishaed.

That's all I have.

Well, I liked neb's thought process. Theres somewhere to start if we cant come up with anything (meant the last part about the ones who hopped quick).... Just a thought.

[spiesr]

Indeed spiesr to have all the night actions to one individual does seem overpowered so that is why it is vital that I am kept alive. You may be sceptical of the claim but are you sceptical of the name claim to go with it? As rishaed put it I have been referenced in the past couple of scenes.

No, the character claim does appear to sufficiently match the role based on by limited knowledge. It is just that the role doesn't make sense to exist in the form it appears to have.

2. Look at the following four players...who, after Virus's claim all unvote and voted for Jonty. My thinking is that Townshend, having found the Princess would unvote and get a lynch quickly, so he could kidnap the Princess at night. Those four that fit this pattern are:
Flores, rishaed, safariguy, and kratos

This seems like as good of idea where to look for Townshend as any right now. Of that list Flores is my prefered target right now.

Now about the princess, i think our best bet atm is to look carefully at the people that pressured the claim of virus, over all after he claimed princess, we need to look closely to the ppl who kept pushing a "full" claim in an obviously town role (seriously, that information only benefited scum).

I am drawn back to this post by Flores. I can't shake the feeling that this may have been a deliberate attempt to get us started looking in the wrong direction.
Vote FloresDelMal

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Indeed spiesr to have all the night actions to one individual does seem overpowered so that is why it is vital that I am kept alive. You may be sceptical of the claim but are you sceptical of the name claim to go with it? As rishaed put it I have been referenced in the past couple of scenes.

No, the character claim does appear to sufficiently match the role based on by limited knowledge. It is just that the role doesn't make sense to exist in the form it appears to have.

2. Look at the following four players...who, after Virus's claim all unvote and voted for Jonty. My thinking is that Townshend, having found the Princess would unvote and get a lynch quickly, so he could kidnap the Princess at night. Those four that fit this pattern are:
Flores, rishaed, safariguy, and kratos

This seems like as good of idea where to look for Townshend as any right now. Of that list Flores is my prefered target right now.

Now about the princess, i think our best bet atm is to look carefully at the people that pressured the claim of virus, over all after he claimed princess, we need to look closely to the ppl who kept pushing a "full" claim in an obviously town role (seriously, that information only benefited scum).

I am drawn back to this post by Flores. I can't shake the feeling that this may have been a deliberate attempt to get us started looking in the wrong direction.
Vote FloresDelMal

I agree with everything you said, but I dont know that Flores' post was turning us in the wrong direction. When I read it, I took it as speculation. Now Ill have to go back and read where she posted that so I can see if the context matches up, but if it was near the start of the day I wouldnt say it is uncommon for speculation to be given. Ill read back the next time I read up on the new posts