[Beginner] Straight Mafia - TOWN WINS

[rizky_biznezz]

Ok streaker if I was scum why would I sabotage myself by fake claiming cop when I could have just jumped on the DJ vote or kept pushing mitch? I was read as town by all players I could have just kept quiet

[Streaker]

Ok streaker if I was scum why would I sabotage myself by fake claiming cop when I could have just jumped on the DJ vote or kept pushing mitch? I was read as town by all players I could have just kept quiet

That's why you waited so long to claim. You made sure the cop didn't claim (semi-confirming for you that there is in fact no town cop), then you false-claim.
Or, you are trying to lure out the real town cop.

Your choice to investigate TWR also doesn't make much sense from a town perspective, so all of it just doesn't add up.

[rizky_biznezz]

That would be very risky after aladdin was pushed as cop yesterday... And it's obvious there is a cop otherwise we wouldn't have a back up cop so again why would I? We are just going round in circles now..
Mitch was already acting scummy so I thought I would wait and see how he played and look for the other scum, rose had been switching votes and not very active so I was interested to see what he flipped

[madmitch]

I am such an idiot, must have coffee, your are right Rizky , I was agreeing with Aladdin and was going to go along with you guys but it didn't feel right, with Aladdin first soft claiming cop ,then both you guys jumped all over Tim and me saying we were role fishing and then the heat came back to Aladdin because we needed a cop claim ,then poof a magic genie gave us our wish and Rizky claimed just in time to take the heat of his scum partner. So Bos ,and D.J. DO NOT GET FOOLED BY THESE GUYS

[rizky_biznezz]

If aladdin was my scum buddy then I would know one of u guys is the cop so I still wouldn't falsely claim..

[rizky_biznezz]

I'm actually out tonight so I will answer any further questions when I get back

[AladdinSane]

Okay, well neither RB nor Bos have given me any reason throughout to think they are scum.

I believe there is a cop, since there was a backup cop.

RB has claimed cop and no-one has counterclaimed.

DJ has claimed doc and no-one has counterclaimed.

Mitch has gone very quickly from trying to finger me as cop to calling me scum.

Streaker seems to be trying to desperately cast suspicion on almost anyone but him, and I have long been very suspicious of him.

There's only 6 of us left. I'm not the cop. I think Bos would have counterclaimed by now if she was cop, so it isn't her. It's not streaker, because he would have been compelled to say so by now. It's not Mitch because he was trying to finger me as cop. That leaves RB, who has claimed. Therefore I believe RB is cop.

Therefore I also believe his claim that Streaker is Mafia. Sorry Streaker, you gotta go. Nothing personal, just business, as they say. VOTE STREAKER

[AladdinSane]

Also, I don't think DJP is cop because I believe he is Doc. So, yeah, RB seems like the only candidate for Cop now.

[AladdinSane]

I said on D2 that I couldn't take the case against Streaker any further at that point, and that I wished the Cop would investigate Streaker on N2. That seems to have happened. Another reason whi I feel comfortable voting Streaker at this point.

[Streaker]

I said on D2 that I couldn't take the case against Streaker any further at that point, and that I wished the Cop would investigate Streaker on N2. That seems to have happened. Another reason whi I feel comfortable voting Streaker at this point.

And don't you see how this is playing EXACTLY into their cards? They dare to claim cop, because no other has done so. They say i'm scum, because they know you were suspicious of me and can easily get you to vote me. Same with DJ, he'll hop on voting me the minute he comes online.

Rereading, I have to stick by my read on you of being town, make the smart move here. Yes I'm desperate but we are about to lose the game!
Get a grip! Rizky was on both the town lynches.

The choices she made for night actions make little sense, I mean TWR? And coincidence that TWR is dead now? It's planned very nice but you need to see through it...

Bos same for you. Make the smart play here, not the easy one...

[AladdinSane]

That's why you waited so long to claim. You made sure the cop didn't claim (semi-confirming for you that there is in fact no town cop), then you false-claim.
Or, you are trying to lure out the real town cop.

The fact that you are still trying to cast doubt n the existence of a Cop seems scummy, since it seems obvious that if there was a Backup Cop, there must be a Cop. So where is the real Cop is RB is false-claiming? Also, he had no need to try to lure out the Cop today since there was general agreement that the Cop should claim.

[AladdinSane]

Get a grip! Rizky was on both the town lynches.

So was I.

[Streaker]

That's why you waited so long to claim. You made sure the cop didn't claim (semi-confirming for you that there is in fact no town cop), then you false-claim.
Or, you are trying to lure out the real town cop.

The fact that you are still trying to cast doubt n the existence of a Cop seems scummy, since it seems obvious that if there was a Backup Cop, there must be a Cop. So where is the real Cop is RB is false-claiming? Also, he had no need to try to lure out the Cop today since there was general agreement that the Cop should claim.

Read my previous post. It answers this nicely. Please just think about it with a clear head.

[AladdinSane]

That's why you waited so long to claim. You made sure the cop didn't claim (semi-confirming for you that there is in fact no town cop), then you false-claim.
Or, you are trying to lure out the real town cop.

The fact that you are still trying to cast doubt n the existence of a Cop seems scummy, since it seems obvious that if there was a Backup Cop, there must be a Cop. So where is the real Cop is RB is false-claiming? Also, he had no need to try to lure out the Cop today since there was general agreement that the Cop should claim.

Read my previous post. It answers this nicely. Please just think about it with a clear head.

Okay, maybe I am missing something in your posts so, please, just for me, answer these three little questions:

1. Why do you keep casting doubt on the existence of a Cop, gieven we had a Backup Cop? Seems pretty cut-and-dried...

2. If there is a Cop and it is not RB, who do you think it is?

3. Why has this real Cop not counterclaimed?

[Streaker]

1) because to me only 2 scenarios are now possible. Either the real cop isn't claiming yet for whatever reason, or there is no cop. Welcome to mafia, where nothing is certain. There has been no evidence (yet) of any mafia powers, so having a doc AND cop would be overpowered to town.

2)Well it's obviously not you, so in that case either bos or mitch. VERY strongly doubt DJ is the cop...

3)If there is a real cop, I don't know. I really don't. There is indeed no reason for cop not to claim at this point, which is why I refer to point 1.

[Streaker]

Alladin, think about the reasons behind actions. Look at the choices RB has made. Look at the logic behind them. She knew how easily she'd get you on board. Why no action on DJ for instance? And all the other points I have made repeatidly.

[AladdinSane]

1) because to me only 2 scenarios are now possible. Either the real cop isn't claiming yet for whatever reason, or there is no cop. Welcome to mafia, where nothing is certain. There has been no evidence (yet) of any mafia powers, so having a doc AND cop would be overpowered to town.

Okay, thanks. But can you address the specific point of there being a Backup Cop? Is it really possible that there could be a Backup Cop and not a Cop as well? That would be weird.

Also, we might have an abundance of PRs on account of this being a noob game. I mean, Town is certainly struggling here...

[AladdinSane]

Look at the choices RB has made. Look at the logic behind them.

It's largely because of the choices RB has made that I think she is solid. RB and I both voted for both Soldier and Tim. RB claimed today, which I would have done if I was Cop. RB invesitgated you on N2, as I would have done. Throughout, RB and I have been on the same page. Why would I throw all that out now, without a solid reason?

[AladdinSane]

Why no action on DJ for instance?

Well, I was pressing for the Cop to investigate you on N2, so I certainly don't have a problem with that choice.

[AladdinSane]

Okay, I have to head out. Probably won't post more until (my) tomorrow.

[rizky_biznezz]

Bos would have called out already if she was the cop and she would have voted me straight away... and mitch would have too.. Although in desperation he still might.. Bed time for me night all

[bosaardbeitje]

It's very simple. This is a game for beginners. So, no idiotic crap like Streaker wants us to believe. There was a back up Cop, so there is a Cop. Simple. No more discussion needed. Rizky claimed, no-one counterclaimed. Done. Anyone who doesn't believe that must be on mafia's side.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

DJ - mitch
Risky - Streaker
Streaker - Bos, Risky, Aladdin (L-1)

Deadline is December 3 at 10:00 CCT.
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

I'll be gone the rest of the day for Thanksgiving. If there is enough votes for a lynch, please be quiet.

[madmitch]

sorry Streaker I have to do this, can't go a night without a lynch it would be all over for town for sure. UNVOTE VOTE STREAKER HOPE THE HELL I AM DOING THE RIGHT THING

[Streaker]

Don't take chances tonight, I suggest you take out the doc. Or not You know what to do.