Dark Knight Mafia! The End! Town Win!

[animorpherv1]

/in to replace.

I'll tell you guys when I get back in, or after, considering how that was a cheap kill.

[ga7]

Lol I'd rather have a direct explanation from Will if he's up to it, who knows what you'd replace in

Nice ignoring Thezz.

I guess there's low chances it was a real day kill considering there was none by the joker so far but... One thought occured to me about Two-face, since we didn't see a kill by him today maybe he just has a 50% chance to kill in both phases? Which would be pretty dreadful already anyway ><
Even more of a worry at this point we have 9 alive. 3 scum are dead, we were 15 total. Normally I'd expect only 5 scum total (which would already be a lot in a small game) but logically there is:

-The Joker
-Two Face
-A boss of the green mafia as refered to by Ace's role (does anyone know if it could be Two face? Doesn't make sense if we follow the movie but I always remember Two face with henchmen else, and can't think of who the f*ck would be the boss else)
-Corrupt cop would fit well... That'd be so overkill though ><

3 scum at least. While they might not all be of the same faction obviously, if the townie numbers go below majority we have virtually no chance of getting through if the scum don't kill each other. We can expect at least a couple of NKs... This is depressing lol, it feels our chances are already freaking low
Sigh, time to recheck again.

[Thezzaruz]

Nice ignoring Thezz.

Not at all. A longer answer to your accusations will be up shortly.

[ga7]

This took way too long for my lazy self, so the formatting is shite.

Voting record: (day phases separated by // , votes from scum in italics)

1.Natewolfman: voted ace then unvoted, voted kalish(4) // voted nag (2) then unvoted, voted by nag(5) then unvoted // voted ga7(7) //

3.Thezzuruz: voted ace then voted Kalish(2), voted by LSU then unvoted // // //

4.drake_259: voted nate then unvoted // // //

7.SEAsportsfan: voted then unvoted MM, voted by ace, voted kalish(3) then unvoted, voted by nag // voted nate(4) then unvoted // voted ga7(5) then unvoted // voted ani(3)

8./: voted strider then unvoted, voted kalish(5) // // // voted ani(2) then unvoted

9.Minister masket: voted by ace then unvoted // voted ga7(1) then unvoted // voted ga7(2) //

11.pmchugh: voted derfderf // voted derfderf then voted nate(1) then unvoted // voted nag then voted strider then voted ga7(8) // voted ani then unvoted, voted /

13.Ga7: voted nag then unvoted, voted by LSU // voted by nag(2) then unvoted, voted nag then voted nate(2) then unvoted, voted nag then unvoted // voted by nag (3) then unvoted, voted by LSU(7), voted LSU // voted thezz

15.strider24: voted drake then voted kalish(4) // // voted ga7(6) //

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1.Natewolfman > teh batman

3.Thezzuruz > most likely Thezzaruz mispelt. Hm. No vote in 3 days even though he was seemingly pushing for Ani this day phase. Scummiest to me.

4.drake_259 > total inactivity since day 1 -_-

7.SEAsportsfan > bad voting record, voted by green scum, overall town feel tho.

8./ > piss poor activity before today, after checking I'm more inclined towards Pmc's take on him.

9.Minister masket > didn't do anything besides voting me in the whole game.

11.pmchugh > felt townie but not sure.

13.Ga7 > teh batler, voted by lotsa scum

15.strider24 > almost same as MM, been unhelpful

Fucking hell. No less than 5 who didn't do shit so far. Bleh... I'm not sure we can just go with lynching a random one still unfortunately, but it's tempting -_-

[pmchugh]

This took way too long for my lazy self, so the formatting is shite.

Voting record: (day phases separated by // , votes from scum in italics)

1.Natewolfman: voted ace then unvoted, voted kalish(4) // voted nag (2) then unvoted, voted by nag(5) then unvoted // voted ga7(7) //

3.Thezzuruz: voted ace then voted Kalish(2), voted by LSU then unvoted // // //

4.drake_259: voted nate then unvoted // // //

7.SEAsportsfan: voted then unvoted MM, voted by ace, voted kalish(3) then unvoted, voted by nag // voted nate(4) then unvoted // voted ga7(5) then unvoted // voted ani(3)

8./: voted strider then unvoted, voted kalish(5) // // // voted ani(2) then unvoted

9.Minister masket: voted by ace then unvoted // voted ga7(1) then unvoted // voted ga7(2) //

11.pmchugh: voted derfderf // voted derfderf then voted nate(1) then unvoted // voted nag then voted strider then voted ga7(8) // voted ani then unvoted, voted /

13.Ga7: voted nag then unvoted, voted by LSU // voted by nag(2) then unvoted, voted nag then voted nate(2) then unvoted, voted nag then unvoted // voted by nag (3) then unvoted, voted by LSU(7), voted LSU // voted thezz

15.strider24: voted drake then voted kalish(4) // // voted ga7(6) //

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1.Natewolfman > teh batman

3.Thezzuruz > most likely Thezzaruz mispelt. Hm. No vote in 3 days even though he was seemingly pushing for Ani this day phase. Scummiest to me.

4.drake_259 > total inactivity since day 1 -_-

7.SEAsportsfan > bad voting record, voted by green scum, overall town feel tho.

8./ > piss poor activity before today, after checking I'm more inclined towards Pmc's take on him.

9.Minister masket > didn't do anything besides voting me in the whole game.

11.pmchugh > felt townie but not sure.

13.Ga7 > teh batler, voted by lotsa scum

15.strider24 > almost same as MM, been unhelpful

Fucking hell. No less than 5 who didn't do shit so far. Bleh... I'm not sure we can just go with lynching a random one still unfortunately, but it's tempting -_-

We may be going through a depressing time but our chances of a good lynch are high, if your claim is correct and we have 3 scum then we have a 3/7 chance of lynching scum. Which is almost 50/50 and with evidence we should get a good pick.

Right now I'd be happy with MM or /, but I will wait for thez's reply before making my mind up their.

[Thezzaruz]

Ahh, up up and away...
Can't see why MM should be blamed for any PRs suffered tbh. Vote ace1217 for shifting the blame.

First vote linking ftw?

Random stage of the first game day and in my first post I throw the second vote of the game (directly related to the first vote). Yea solid proof.

Questionning the Batman's sanity, really?

Two posts, one to show that the investigation yielded a false result and one to make sure that nate hadn't misunderstood his result. Yea I'm pushing him oh so hard aren't I.

It is an interesting thing to keep a bit of focus on though. Not in the "I don't trust nate" way though as his claim seems solid, but rather why did it go wrong? A green Busdriver seems a bit much (overpowered as you said) especially as there already are 2 dead from that faction (one being a henchman thus implying a GF or such) and 4+ greens on top of the at least 2+ from the Joker faction makes for a very small town.
Also I don't see anyone of the mobsters fitting as a Busdriver, the Joker at least had one in the film!

Added comment after your "nice ignore" post:
It does seem to pile up with the bad guys doesn't it. btw I'd guess that the "boss" is Sal Maroni, not Dent.

And other two nonquotable elements that tip the scale for me are the pushing heavily on Ani right now

I didn't push, I asked a few questions. Just as with nate I never voted for him because I didn't think either were (or are) scum but as both their roles had actions that affected others we need to know how they work.

The first quote was merely supported by the idea voting your scumbuddy as a first vote is scarily commonplace and especially amongst experienced players for some reason; due to the low amount of posts Thezz had overall before today I find it relevant.

You need to do your homework a bit better tbh. At the point of you posting that I had made 32 posts, 6 of them during day 4. Simple math says I've made less posts today than before which is completely opposite to your claims.

and the fact that yesterday when several accusations were going on he was way silent. I couldn't even find a vote by him. Not wetting himself right when scum is involved seems way fishy.

True, I wasn't around much (made one post on the 3rd) for that RL week due to moving my GF to a town some 700 miles down south. I even missed to place my vote on you (as I had promised to do) it seems when looking back.

I think I'm onto something and as we say, "Jamais 2 sans 3"

I'd say that the only thing you're onto is shifting the blame/focus from yourself. IMO the big unanswered question in this game is why didn't the lynch on you stick??? It could be some Governor type of role but if so why would he use it on you and not say anything and why would the scene so completely miss out on the fact? Having a role that is unlynchable without any explanation is not a good situation for town especially as the only killing role town have got seems to be Dent and I'm not sure he's all that reliable.

[william18]

Ani wasn't modkilled.

[william18]

Announcement

spiesr has replaced drake_259

[spiesr]

Hey guys.
Here is my first question. Why was ga7 dropped as an obvious target fro the joker? I mean his claim seems possible but it could very well be fake. When you tried to lynch him he survived despite that the mayor was a politician so there is likely no mayor to save him. The flavor investigation also seems to peg him as the joker. Shouldn't we do something about this?

[Thezzaruz]

Hey guys.
Why was ga7 dropped as an obvious target fro the joker?

I really have no idea... As you can see in my post above I just wondered the same thing myself.

[Thezzaruz]

Ani wasn't modkilled.

Good to know, thx.

[spiesr]

The most likely breakdown of baddies appears to be appears to be
Joker with 1 or two henchmen
two of three member mafia
Twoface Evil/Insane 50% Day&Night Vig or something

I am currently leaning towards three mafia members over two as they might still have a godfather
On the whole it seems this is one of those games where the town will have no fffing clue what is going.

[Minister Masket]

-A boss of the green mafia as refered to by Ace's role (does anyone know if it could be Two face? Doesn't make sense if we follow the movie but I always remember Two face with henchmen else, and can't think of who the f*ck would be the boss else)

You really need to see the movie.
This is probaby Sal Maroni, whose legs are broken by Batman about halfway through the film, and then has his car crashed by Two-Face at the end. Unlucky bloke.

(Fun Fact: The actor who playes him is Julia Roberts' brother)

[Thezzaruz]

You really need to see the movie.
This is probaby Sal Maroni, whose legs are broken by Batman about halfway through the film, and then has his car crashed by Two-Face at the end. Unlucky bloke.

You're way late, skimma.

btw I'd guess that the "boss" is Sal Maroni, not Dent.

(Fun Fact: The actor who playes him is Julia Roberts' brother)

Yea Eric, he's fairly well know on his own nowdays.

[Natewolfman]

ok here is an idea, someone make a list of all important characters from the movie (I would but im kinda buisy) and going off that we may be able to figure out who is missing/how many pro-town roles we have?

[Thezzaruz]

ok here is an idea, someone make a list of all important characters from the movie (I would but im kinda buisy) and going off that we may be able to figure out who is missing/how many pro-town roles we have?

Sure, I'll have one up in a few minutes...

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isn't that essentially the same as a "here are all valid claims scum can use" list?
There are plenty of roles in the movie, I believe it is preferential for scum not to know.

[Natewolfman]

isn't that essentially the same as a "here are all valid claims scum can use" list?
There are plenty of roles in the movie, I believe it is preferential for scum not to know.

i belive that if the scum want to find a claim role its easy to figure one out by seeing the movie, which everyone on the planet (except apparently ga7!)

I think this will help town better them scum if we know how many we have on our side

[Thezzaruz]

Divided into expected factions and roles added where they are known, italic means they are dead. It's 20+ names as we don't know who Will uses meaning that we need to prune the list a bit.
The "missing roles" lists are just suggestions/expectations.

Also I'm beginning to think that the Mob is the scum faction and that the Joker (+goons) are some sort of 3:rd party even though he's the main villain. It fits better with the storyline and the NK of the busdriver also points to that.


The Joker & friends:
Joker - Joker
Busdriver - Busdriver
Dopey, Grumpy or Happy
Missing Roles - 1+Goons


The Mob:
Gambol - Goon
Lau - Convincer
Maroni
Chechen
Corrupt Cop(s)
Scarecrow
Bank Manager
Missing roles - GF, Busdriver, 1+Goons, Survivour, SK


Batman & friends:
Batman
Alfred
Gordon
Lucius - Inventor
Mayor - Politician
Reese - Flavour Cop
Rachel
Mike Engel
Harvey Dent
Commissioner Loeb
Judge Surillo
Missing Roles - Cop, Doc, Vig, Roleblock


3:rd Party:
TwoFace
Missing Roles - SK, Survivor

isn't that essentially the same as a "here are all valid claims scum can use" list?
There are plenty of roles in the movie, I believe it is preferential for scum not to know.

You think that scum can't watch the movie/find its IMDB page? Having the list easily accessed here is more beneficial to town than to any scumies trying to keep information scarce IMO.

[Thezzaruz]

And while I'm at it...

Anyone that has a suggestion as to why/how yesterdays lynch failed?

Anyone that knows what a "convincer" role does? (could it be him that messed with ani? but if so then why did ani die?)

[spiesr]

The convincer was already dead before animorpher went wacko though. No idea what it does .

[spiesr]

If ga7 is really Joker he could be unlynchable!

[Thezzaruz]

The convincer was already dead before animorpher went wacko though. No idea what it does .

Nag (convincer) was killed night 3 and ani started acting out right from the bat on day 4. So Nag could have made a successful action just before he was killed. It's possible I'd say but we as we don't know who it was that made ani do stuff it's unconclusive.

[ga7]

Just as a note I'm busy with valentines day and will catch up tomorrow.

[Minister Masket]

Gee Thezz, I sure am sorry I didn't read the rest of the thread before answered ga7's question.