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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:36 pm
by Hitman079
so then what the hell should the recruited/joining townies be doing?
if the choose to join a faction, i doubt they'll just then be turned into a vanilla Union townie or vanilla Confed townie..right?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:40 pm
by ga7
You forget about the battle events that could raise highly the body count. I don't think we'll get more than 3 NKs each night for that reason.
GT and AD, you keep insisting on the fact natives can't kill, but even with the rule that says you can't have clues in a death scene, from what I saw it's rarely the case. Mandy was scalped, that's enough for me. I'm starting to doubt your allegiance though :P

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:44 pm
by Serbia
ga7 wrote: Mandy was scalped, that's enough for me.
QFT

I also think that the Natives were doing some killing.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:45 pm
by Koesen
Though I didn't believe in native killer before, I agree that the scalping is a clue that's hard to ignore.

I do believe, though, that there were also incidents of white men scalping their victims.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:48 pm
by Serbia
Sure, actually, I think some southerners scalped blacks who were fighting for the Union... been a while since I last read my day-by-day account of the Civil War though. (not kidding, I have a book like that. also one on WWII.)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:55 pm
by Koesen
Scalping doesn't kill you anyway, unless you scalp so much it becomes decapitation.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:00 pm
by Anarkistsdream
ga7 wrote:You forget about the battle events that could raise highly the body count. I don't think we'll get more than 3 NKs each night for that reason.
GT and AD, you keep insisting on the fact natives can't kill, but even with the rule that says you can't have clues in a death scene, from what I saw it's rarely the case. Mandy was scalped, that's enough for me. I'm starting to doubt your allegiance though :P
When have I ever said ANYTHING about natives not being able to kill??? Be careful about putting words in peoples mouths.

I just think everyone is worrying more about any third parties than they are worrying about the North and South... Considering those two ARE the largest groups...

Who gives a shit abut the third parties? Unless you are one. I myself can't recruit, can't investigate, can't do much of crap... So I see no reason why I should put ANY brain power into their existence.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:00 pm
by 0ojakeo0
i died...

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:00 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Koesen wrote:Scalping doesn't kill you anyway, unless you scalp so much it becomes decapitation.
Very incorrect. Every bit of blood you have goes through your scalp at some point... If you are scalped, you bleed to death.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:04 pm
by Serbia
0ojakeo0 wrote:i died...
unneccesary, we all know, now SHUT UP. :evil:

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:10 pm
by 0ojakeo0
aFIRMattive
bitches[/b]

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:17 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
Mandy 2.0 replaced Aries
Jake 2.0 replaced xencobra
Waiting on a response in regards to replacing willis.
glad to see gimpy finally has internet

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:20 pm
by Serbia
Unvote if I must

VOTE: Jake

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:22 pm
by Koesen
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Koesen wrote:Scalping doesn't kill you anyway, unless you scalp so much it becomes decapitation.
Very incorrect. Every bit of blood you have goes through your scalp at some point... If you are scalped, you bleed to death.
The English Wikipedia page on scalping contains a photograph of a man who survived it. The Frisian page ends with the sentence

Skalpearje wie trouwens net altiten deadlik; der binne ferskate goed dokumintearre gefallen bekend fan blanke slachtoffers dy't it oerlibben.

"Scalping, incidentally, isn't always lethal: there are several well documented cases of white victims who survived."

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:26 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
Serbia wrote:Unvote if I must

VOTE: Jake
requires the term "kill"

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:09 pm
by gimpyThewonder
wow, this game had possibly the worst day 1 i've seen yet. 30 pages of tripe, yuck.

Right now the most inconsistent person looks like AD. He went from saying lets hunt down and kill the non-alligned (natives, townies, whoever) to:
Anarkistsdream wrote: I just think everyone is worrying more about any third parties than they are worrying about the North and South... Considering those two ARE the largest groups...

Who gives a shit abut the third parties? Unless you are one. I myself can't recruit, can't investigate, can't do much of crap... So I see no reason why I should put ANY brain power into their existence.
why the about-face?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:19 pm
by Fircoal
Anarkistsdream wrote: Firstly, thinking that anybody did any killing outside of the Uion Jacks or the Confederacy is fallacious.
Anarkistsdream wrote:
When have I ever said ANYTHING about natives not being able to kill??? Be careful about putting words in peoples mouths.
:wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:48 pm
by Neutrino
nagerous wrote:Well they are killing. I think they are a separate mafia of 3 or 4 people and we should be hunting them.
Why? This game is North v South, not North + South v Native Americans v Any Other Misc Third Parties. Compared to the amount of damage the larger factions can do (and I still think the Confederates may have gotten another nightkill in but it was nullified; Union Assassin certainly sounds like someone with killing powers) and the number of deaths from battle scenes the Natives are nothing but an irritation.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:50 pm
by dominationnation
Neutrino wrote:
nagerous wrote:Well they are killing. I think they are a separate mafia of 3 or 4 people and we should be hunting them.
Why? This game is North v South, not North + South v Native Americans v Any Other Misc Third Parties.
just like to point out that thats a fourth party.

1. north
2.south
3.natives
4. third party

see should be fourht party. Yeah. okay.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:45 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Fircoal wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote: Firstly, thinking that anybody did any killing outside of the Uion Jacks or the Confederacy is fallacious.
Anarkistsdream wrote:
When have I ever said ANYTHING about natives not being able to kill??? Be careful about putting words in peoples mouths.
:wink:
Hey dumbass... That didn't say they COULDN'T did they? I'm pretty sure I merely said that thinking anyone outside was fallacious... That didn't say impossible.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:46 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Koesen wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Koesen wrote:Scalping doesn't kill you anyway, unless you scalp so much it becomes decapitation.
Very incorrect. Every bit of blood you have goes through your scalp at some point... If you are scalped, you bleed to death.
The English Wikipedia page on scalping contains a photograph of a man who survived it. The Frisian page ends with the sentence

Skalpearje wie trouwens net altiten deadlik; der binne ferskate goed dokumintearre gefallen bekend fan blanke slachtoffers dy't it oerlibben.

"Scalping, incidentally, isn't always lethal: there are several well documented cases of white victims who survived."
Isn't ALWAYS lethal.... And your point???

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:48 pm
by dominationnation
yeah guys was all this about weather or not scalping is always leathal or not? Who cares? Someone in this game died. doesnt matter how or how reliable of a fourm of murder it is. It was effecitve enough here.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:39 pm
by Russianfire8371
ok. im sorry i havent posted today. I had homecoming and a football game (im in the band).

This is a battle between the north and the south, and people trying to kill the 3rd party are going to get themselves screwed over when people from their side (-coughunioncough-) are getting killed and the balance of man power shifts. I believe that if the union was smart, then they would be more worried about killing off some confeds rather than worrying about native americans.

We now have 2 resurrections (or 3 i dont remember), meaning that there could be a possible side switch. We also dont know whether someone else is resurrections them or not. I think that these resurrections is the "recruitment" that we've been discussing earlier. Just a thought -shrug-

How can we trust AK? Sure he's roleclaimed, but what if he was expecting to be protected. I mean think about it. If you were a Union and he told you that he was on your team, wouldnt you protect him? Will he be protected from now on? What if he's not really a union member but a confed or a native american?

FOS AK How can we trust you?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 pm
by ga7
How can we trust AK? My, that seems like Russian mistook of game :lol:
I'm dead drunk, will give brilliant insight tomorrow assuming my hangover isn't too bad :P

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 pm
by got tonkaed
There really doesnt seem to be a whole lot of progression as far as killing people, since no one is really doing much of anything other than talking about potential game semantics. With no real scum tells, only determing if someone is on your side or not, there isnt really much to go on during the day phases....

it might just be a really quiet day.