Conquer club saga Mafia! Landgrab won! MUST READ!!!

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:46 am

Vote count
kalishinkov: 2 dustn2.0, f1fth

If this is wrong please tell me

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:13 am

Vote Kalish as I really don't have a better lead right now.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:24 am

Is it just me or have most mafia games just been getting whole lots of bandwagons on?

We're losing information and no one is giving us any to keep us going. I don't know who to vote for but I'm getting sick of mass bandwagons.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:36 am

Skittles! wrote:Is it just me or have most mafia games just been getting whole lots of bandwagons on?

We're losing information and no one is giving us any to keep us going. I don't know who to vote for but I'm getting sick of mass bandwagons.

What does one do when there are little-to-no leads? Putting pressure on people is the best way to draw out scummy behavior, either from voters or the pressured themselves.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:38 am

FOS all those voting Kalish, I've always hated it when people try randomly bandwagoning to put pressure on people, because sometimes it gets out of hand, and we end up with a sill lynch

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:54 pm

Skittles! wrote:Is it just me or have most mafia games just been getting whole lots of bandwagons on?

We're losing information and no one is giving us any to keep us going. I don't know who to vote for but I'm getting sick of mass bandwagons.

would you like to know why? people are losing interest because they're in too many games at once. at least, that's my opinion.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:07 pm

dustn64 wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:Good kill whoever got nag.
Except for the fact that he is siblings with the biggest poster on CC and that cost us 50 PPD VOTE KAL (partly to get the game going)

First, like I knew that when I made the post. Look at the chronological order which things happened. That was my first post after the revealing of nag's role.

Second, nagerous was a jester; if he wouldn't have been NK'ed you shameless bandwagoners would have lynched him and it would have been endgame. It was a smart move REGARDLESS of who his sibling is. Granted we lose some PPD but now the game's not gonna end (yet anyway).

If you're on the bandwagon against me, you're either a skimmer or scum; probably both.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:16 pm

The Weird One wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Is it just me or have most mafia games just been getting whole lots of bandwagons on?

We're losing information and no one is giving us any to keep us going. I don't know who to vote for but I'm getting sick of mass bandwagons.
would you like to know why? people are losing interest because they're in too many games at once. at least, that's my opinion.

It is true, the bandwagons have been ridiculous lately. Romeo and Juliet ended day 2 in record time (it was like 12 hours) because of extreme bandwagoning.

I'm not sure I agree with TWO though. That may be part of it, but it's not the whole reason. Everyone wants to be in a game but very rarely to people actually contribute anymore, they just throw a vote on whoever's got the most at that moment. It seems people just wanna be in the game but not actually play (if that makes any sense).

Yea Skittles, the quality of a lot of games on the player's part, not the mods, has been lacking lately; especially in big games, I agree. Someone makes a vote based on bullshit reasoning and next thing you know theres 10 votes on that player and only 1 or 2 of them will have anything even resembling a reason behind it.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:32 pm

Yeah, um if you're talking about the first R+J mafia, I think the reason was more due to the fact that one player ousted all of his partners in an attempt to claim. Bandwagons helped a lot to end the game but it was more due to that certain person naming all two or three of his partners.

Nothing to add here. With 11 players alive, it is still a little too big for my liking, but nonetheless we have to find something. As I sit here listening to Rage Against the Machine, I am going down the list and find one prson who we don't really need. Jake.

If he hasn't been replaced already (I know I said he wasn't active as much anymore but his name is still on the front page) then I say we replace or lynch him. I would rather get him replaced but now, he doesn't seem like a bad backup lynch since we're pretty much wading thru molasses in this game.

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:12 pm

sorry everyone, my mum's been hogging the pc for the last two days (she's suddenly decided she reeeeally likes spider solitaire)

the bandwagon on kalish is dumb

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:18 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Vote count

And I don't think it is worth voting Jake out...

My money is still on Skittles.

I know this is a quote from day one, but AD kept his money on Skittles for about 15 pages, and then just started going along with the bandwagons. His money was initially on Skittles! for vote hopping. I highly doubt it, but I was just wondering, is there any more to this. AD?

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:19 pm

diddle wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Vote count

And I don't think it is worth voting Jake out...

My money is still on Skittles.
I know this is a quote from day one, but AD kept his money on Skittles for about 15 pages, and then just started going along with the bandwagons. His money was initially on Skittles! for vote hopping. I highly doubt it, but I was just wondering, is there any more to this. AD?

BTW, I'm not suggesting AD was acting scummy, just wondering whether or not there was anything to this vendetta against Skittles

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:39 pm

Bah, I was in a hurry and frustrated thaty this game wasn't going anywhere. If it's against the law to make a vote not based on absolutely sound proof, sue me.

I'll still Unvote, but know that just saying "the games suck" isn't going to fix anything.

dustn64 · Post by **dustn64** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:44 pm

hey, hey, hey, I didn't mean for that to take off on a small bandwagon. Its not a good enough reason. I'll read up on the last two pages.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:55 pm

Vote count
kalishinkov: 2 dustn2.0, LSU

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:58 pm

Deadline? Is there a deadline?

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:00 am

Skittles! wrote:Deadline? Is there a deadline?

I'll set one. You have a week.

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:02 am

nice deadline

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:09 am

Iliad wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Deadline? Is there a deadline?
I'll set one. You have a week.

Excellent. 1 week of pure bandwagoning.

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:10 am

that's all this has been lately

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:39 am

Well, I think that one of the reasons why the games are slow is that two people can't vote the same person lest the instantly get accused of bandwagoning and holy hell being raised.

It makes it so that no one wants to vote anyone, or heaven forbid, lynch someone. People will die in this game no matter what, and once again, it's not the end of the world if someone dies for a stupid reason, or a poor lynch is made. As a matter of fact, it's a good thing because you're able to pick scummy actions out of it.

It's like: how is the decision for a lynch made? By majority. By the logic presented, every person who's ever been lynched in the history of the game of mafia has been bandwagoned.

I hate that phrase and it's being throw around far too often these days.

Vote diddle. He's just been playing very conservatively. It's only a hunch, and I have no hard evidence on him, but none on anyone else for that matter. Hate me or lynch me for it. I don't care.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:49 am

I'm going with f1fth's post. Even though I have been using the word bandwagon a lot, we need to get somewhere. Lynching someone is the only way we get more information (if the mod permits it)

vote diddle.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:46 am

Right, I thought this might happen, your only voting for me, because so far I appear to be the only one here who has reread a little bit and picked something out. Nobody has even tried to make any points, and I know my points aren't exactly rock hard evidence, but I'm just trying to get us somewhere, rather than talking about bandwagons.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:36 am

Vote count
kalishinkov: 2 dustn2.0, LSU
diddle: 2 skittles, f1fth

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:37 pm

I'm gonna go with the unvote, vote: 0ojakeo0 option since he hasn't been replaced yet and I don't really have any better ideas at the moment.

Yes, there are better ideas then lynching inactives, I know; but we've lost some serious PPD the last day or 2 and I'd rather lynch a useless inactive then possibly lynch a townie and lose more PPD. Well, I guess that argument is flawed though then since jake could also be a townie, in retrospect. Oh well, I've got nothing else.