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Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:04 am**

bridges are off. I will do them as you show me, Helix when I will have more time...

TacKtix, for me is the biggest problem text in legend. I edited it, so look how it looks now. do you also not able to read text on the map?

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another version with edited text on the map also...

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Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:29 am**

before you continue on any farther you need to know one major rule: Drawing the map Large and then shrinking it to make the small map is the best route to pursue. Making the map small and expanding it to be large is the worst idea ever.

My general plan, when making a new map, is to make the large version first and then shrink it down to small size to make sure everything fits. I take notes on what will have to change, usually Text size, and I make sure that the numbers will fit with everything on the small map. I save that small map and then ignore it until I hit the graphics workshop. All work should be done on the large map at this point.

So bring back the large and lets see what we can do about this blurriness.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:48 am**

I allways work on large size. now I post small version how it looks. o.k. lets continue with large...

here is map with bridges. small version, I promisse the last for now

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Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:59 pm**

Those bridges are better, I think. Did you make the change on Baltic Crusades? (Or I could just go check....)

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:15 pm**

yes, please look at Baltic Crusade, there is interesting debate with Commander9. it looks that there will be several chnges...

I will try do bridges more better, I do not like them much...

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:25 pm**

You need to make the rivers stand out more. Right now they're too easy to confuse with the colourful borders you have marking the bonus areas.

Try making them darker and/or adding some outlines...

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:38 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:44 pm**

TaCktiX wrote:I have one major beef with this map: it all looks blurry. I have a crystal-clear 1080p 24" display, and I can barely read any of the map. Please fix that ASAP, and I'll add some more comments for other improvements to the map (when it doesn't hurt my eyes to read).

Seconded. the text needs to be sharper.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:23 pm**

fumandomuerte wrote: Seconded. the text needs to be sharper.

for every text I choose "sharpe". what more could I do?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:00 pm**

Sorry, but the rivers are still not standing out enough. Try making them a dark blue, it doesn't matter if they're different shade from the ocean... in the places where river meets ocean you can put a gradient so the colour changes smoothly from river to ocean.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:28 pm**

theBastard wrote:
fumandomuerte wrote: Seconded. the text needs to be sharper.
for every text I choose "sharpe". what more could I do?

My suggestion is that when resizing the big map (where text is "sharp" and legible) be sure of having it as a vector. Here's an example:
Original:

Resized (75%) from raster text:

Resized (75%) from vectorial text:

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:50 pm**

For the rivers you could try replacing the brown glow with a brown line by increasing the spread in the outer glow slider.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:20 am**

fumandomuerte wrote: My suggestion is that when resizing the big map (where text is "sharp" and legible) be sure of having it as a vector. Here's an example:
Original:

Resized (75%) from raster text:

Resized (75%) from vectorial text:

sorry, but what is vector?

something like this, Helix?

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Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:06 am**

From about.com:

Vector images are made up of many individual, scalable objects. These objects are defined by mathematical equations rather than pixels, so they always render at the highest quality. Objects may consist of lines, curves, and shapes with editable attributes such as color, fill, and outline. Changing the attributes of a vector object does not effect the object itself. You can freely change any number of object attributes without destroying the basic object. An object can be modified not only by changing its attributes, but also by shaping and transforming it using nodes and control handles.

Because they're scalable, vector-based images are resolution independent. You can increase and decrease the size of vector images to any degree and your lines will remain crisp and sharp, both on screen and in print. Fonts are a type of vector object.
Another advantage of vector images is that they're not restricted to a rectangular shape like bitmaps. Vector objects can be placed over other objects, and the object below will show through.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:27 am**

well, thanks for explantation and help. but my question "what is vector" was not completly

so, what must I do to have font as vector?

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:28 am**

just be sure that your text is being written on a vector layer

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:34 am**

fumandomuerte wrote:just be sure that your text is being written on a vector layer

Kickass avi, right the fruck on !!!
BTW, you should have entered the Foundry Medals comp. You would have won hands down with a set of that style.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:56 am**

porkenbeans wrote:
fumandomuerte wrote:just be sure that your text is being written on a vector layer
Kickass avi, right the fruck on !!!
BTW, you should have entered the Foundry Medals comp. You would have won hands down with a set of that style.

Yeah, there should be medals for other great map contributors such as WidowMakers, oaktown & qwert and the rest of the cartographers that have succesfully developed maps.
It would be awesome to have 4 categories, each one honoring these 3 great CA along with Cairnswk.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:59 am**

fumandomuerte wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
fumandomuerte wrote:just be sure that your text is being written on a vector layer
Kickass avi, right the fruck on !!!
BTW, you should have entered the Foundry Medals comp. You would have won hands down with a set of that style.
Yeah, there should be medals for other great map contributors such as WidowMakers, oaktown & qwert and the rest of the cartographers that have succesfully developed maps.
It would be awesome to have 4 categories, each one honoring these 3 great CA along with Cairnswk.

I second that.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:27 am**

fumandomuerte wrote:just be sure that your text is being written on a vector layer

against sorry, but where/how can I select that Layer will be Vector? only what I found is in "Layer" - Vector Mask - Reveal All/Hide All...

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:47 am**

When you insert text or a shape there should be a checking box showing something like "create as a vector" (I use Corel Paint Shop Pro X, but I'm sure there should be a similar option in other software).

P.S. You gave me an idea porkenbeans lol. enjoy:

Cairnswk

WidowMakers

Oaktown

Qwert
Sorry for the SPAM theBastard

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:03 am**

fumandomuerte wrote:When you insert text or a shape there should be a checking box showing something like "create as a vector" (I use Corel Paint Shop Pro X, but I'm sure there should be a similar option in other software).

I use Photoshop and there is nothing as you said / or I can not find it - what is probably the problem

fumandomuerte wrote: Sorry for the SPAM theBastard

it´s o.k. try to adhere one advice + one spam

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:27 am**

If you select your text and then go up to Layer menu up top, then to "rasterize" it will turn the layer from a text layer to any old image layer. It would turn the text layer (vector based) to pixel based (regular image). Don't worry about it, all your text layers are all ready as vectors.

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:37 am**

thanks Helix. so it should looks like this:

840 x 800 pxs

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630 x 600 pxs

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I´m not expert but I think it looks better. or? I hope this should be better fot you eyes TaCktiX

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:39 pm**

OK, so I was having so much fun working on the file that you sent me, that I stayed up all night till the sun came up.

I will send the psd file back to you so you can see exactly what I did.

I hope that you will like at least something that I did. If not, that's OK because I really enjoyed the time spent.

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