Conquer Club

video games make me dizzy

I only played mario bros. and rbi.

I'm doing categories (I've been "gaming" a long time):

Strategy and War Games
(1) Civilization IV - I will dig this up often
(2) Hearts of Iron III - Relatively new; great game
(3) Sim City 2000 - I played this game for hours on end in high school and college
(4) Age of Empires II - Played multiplayer with my roommate and the guys next door freshman year
(5) Europa Universalis III - Relatively new

Sports and "Other" Games
(1) Madden 2006 - My roommate and I had a league in law school... went for 10 years (2 normal years, 10 Madden years)
(2) MLB 2006 - They had a manager mode that made playing the game much faster.
(3) Madden 2010 - I'm in an online league in this one; good stuff
(4) Guitar Hero - Great game, especially for parties
(5) Super Mario Kart - The older version. So much fun with three players.

Shooters and RPGs
(1) Goldeneye - A college multiplayer favorite
(2) Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 - Two of the best games I've ever played
(3) Baldur's Gate and BG2 - A must-play for any self-respecting RPGer
(4) Red Dead Redemption - Climbing the list; great game.
(5) Grand Theft Auto - The original, the best, top-down play... great time waster in college

I'm probably forgetting some.

thegreekdog wrote:I'm doing categories (I've been "gaming" a long time):

Strategy and War Games
(1) Civilization IV - I will dig this up often
(2) Hearts of Iron III - Relatively new; great game
(3) Sim City 2000 - I played this game for hours on end in high school and college
(4) Age of Empires II - Played multiplayer with my roommate and the guys next door freshman year
(5) Europa Universalis III - Relatively new

Sports and "Other" Games
(1) Madden 2006 - My roommate and I had a league in law school... went for 10 years (2 normal years, 10 Madden years)
(2) MLB 2006 - They had a manager mode that made playing the game much faster.
(3) Madden 2010 - I'm in an online league in this one; good stuff
(4) Guitar Hero - Great game, especially for parties
(5) Super Mario Kart - The older version. So much fun with three players.

Shooters and RPGs
(1) Goldeneye - A college multiplayer favorite
(2) Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 - Two of the best games I've ever played
(3) Baldur's Gate and BG2 - A must-play for any self-respecting RPGer
(4) Red Dead Redemption - Climbing the list; great game.
(5) Grand Theft Auto - The original, the best, top-down play... great time waster in college

I'm probably forgetting some.

About Baldur's Gate 2...I tried to enjoy it, I really did. The game mechanics, graphics, classes, spells, story it's all top notch. But...

The role playing (an I am fully aware that I may get lynched by an angry mob for saying this) blows. Why? Because you are allowed to express your character's personality solely through following statements:

a) Yes I'll help you.

b) How much will you pay me to help you?

c) No, I won't help you because I'm evil.


If you look at Neverwinter Nights for comparison, then you will find that a) yes it is a bit more arcade then you may want a RPG to be but also, b) you get to play a character, not a simpleton who wanders the world with "AD&D dictionary of alignment-expressing statements"!

Grand respect to the rest of your list, but I just had to get this of my chest...because I really did want to enjoy Baldur's Gate 2.

My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

I still haven't played CoD4. I'm still waiting for it to get nice and cheap, and then I'll play through the campaign just to see what all the fuss is about.

I'm sure everyone (especially males GenX and younger) can come up with a top five video game list, but I'm not going to bother here.

I will say this, Madden sucks. I hate it. I wish there was a mode where casual gamers could just select a play and then let it run on the screen. Instead, it's all super involved and if you press one wrong button the entire play gets ruined. This makes a world with two kinds of people. Madden-nuts and regular people. Madden-nuts know all the buttons and pull trick plays because they read like, Nintendo Power or whatever.

I guess I'm a Madden-nut. There are no secret plays by the way. And if a play works once, I can adjust for it from a defensive perspective to make sure it doesn't work again (like screens for example). I think for me being decent at Madden has to do with playing it since the early 1990s. I buy every new game and I play multiple seasons everytime.

Yeah, and that's cool. If I really got into Madden, maybe in a year or so I could appreciate all of it's intricacies and nuance.

But there should still be a super casual mode, where you just pick plays, and watch them get run, rather than having to press the right button at the exact right second every time. They would attract a lot more of an audience that way.

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

I had a party in Neverwinter Nights, as I recall. I don't REMEMBER it just being one other guy, anyway...though it has been a while, so I could be wrong.

pimpdave wrote:I still haven't played CoD4. I'm still waiting for it to get nice and cheap, and then I'll play through the campaign just to see what all the fuss is about.

I'm sure everyone (especially males GenX and younger) can come up with a top five video game list, but I'm not going to bother here.

I will say this, Madden sucks. I hate it. I wish there was a mode where casual gamers could just select a play and then let it run on the screen. Instead, it's all super involved and if you press one wrong button the entire play gets ruined. This makes a world with two kinds of people. Madden-nuts and regular people. Madden-nuts know all the buttons and pull trick plays because they read like, Nintendo Power or whatever.

Haha I guess I'm a Madden-nut too.

I was really really good at it for the Playstation 2, but the ones for the 360 are not the same at all. The gameplay changed a Hell of a lot.

You just gotta know what plays to run.

Army of GOD wrote:

pimpdave wrote:I still haven't played CoD4. I'm still waiting for it to get nice and cheap, and then I'll play through the campaign just to see what all the fuss is about.

I'm sure everyone (especially males GenX and younger) can come up with a top five video game list, but I'm not going to bother here.

I will say this, Madden sucks. I hate it. I wish there was a mode where casual gamers could just select a play and then let it run on the screen. Instead, it's all super involved and if you press one wrong button the entire play gets ruined. This makes a world with two kinds of people. Madden-nuts and regular people. Madden-nuts know all the buttons and pull trick plays because they read like, Nintendo Power or whatever.

Haha I guess I'm a Madden-nut too.

I was really really good at it for the Playstation 2, but the ones for the 360 are not the same at all. The gameplay changed a Hell of a lot.

You just gotta know what plays to run.

Same goes for NCAA Football (my choice of the two, as pro-ball has rarely caught my interest). It is a strategy game, but not as ridiculously (bad spelling) complicated as most RPGs are.

For RTS I'll agree that Starcraft is the best game out there, still to this date in my opinion.
Dungeon Keeper and Age of Empires 2 come runner up just because they were a childhood past time. Medieval Total War, Rome Total War and Medieval Total War II are games I still play alot as well.

As for RPGs and such. Dragon Age Origins was very well done and I loved playing Diablo 2 when it came out though it gets old overtime. Summoner was also great when the PS2 first came out, the battle system was a bit boring but the story was got me.
Dungeon Siege I and II are great though II lacks the friggin mini gun which made the game actually pretty funny.

Alot of good memories.

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

Super Mario World (SNES)
Legend of Zelda A Link to the past (SNES)
Tetris (NES)
Halo (Xbox) - 16 player LAN Parties FTW!!!
Mario Kart 64 (N64)

1. Counter Strike Source
2. Half-Life 2
3. Fallout 3
4. Prince of Persia 2: The Shadow of the flame (1994)
5. Amercias Army:Special Forces (AA2)

thegreekdog wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

Alas it's for Xbox not for a relatively slow PC.

thegreekdog wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

I haven't played ME2, but 1 was, at least in some instances, extremely counterintuitive and what Shepard ended up saying was not at all what I had expected from the short description and the location of the choice. Similarly for Paragon and Renegade points, some actions that I thought would be one way turned out to be the other.

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

I haven't played ME2, but 1 was, at least in some instances, extremely counterintuitive and what Shepard ended up saying was not at all what I had expected from the short description and the location of the choice. Similarly for Paragon and Renegade points, some actions that I thought would be one way turned out to be the other.

Yeah, maybe "excellent" is too strong a word. Those games did an excellent job compared to any other RPG I've played.

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

I haven't played ME2, but 1 was, at least in some instances, extremely counterintuitive and what Shepard ended up saying was not at all what I had expected from the short description and the location of the choice. Similarly for Paragon and Renegade points, some actions that I thought would be one way turned out to be the other.

ME2 still does it, but not as badly. Though in ME2, you can do either paragon or renegade actions during certain instances throughout the game.

The Civilization Franchise

Star Trek - Birth of the Federation

both are Turn Based... not real time... which involves a lot of strategy and a lot of details.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:My beef with Neverwinter Nights is that there is no party. It's just you and some lackey. But I understand your points regarding BG2.

True about not having a party, but I'm kind of antisocial type in RL so it bothered me less. Also, I understand that it is, at this time at least, probably impossible to make dialogue options sufficient for a player to really choose who he wants his character to be. It wouldn't bother me half as much if BG2 weren't so perfect in every other way.

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 did an excellent job with dialogue.

I haven't played ME2, but 1 was, at least in some instances, extremely counterintuitive and what Shepard ended up saying was not at all what I had expected from the short description and the location of the choice. Similarly for Paragon and Renegade points, some actions that I thought would be one way turned out to be the other.

ME2 still does it, but not as badly. Though in ME2, you can do either paragon or renegade actions during certain instances throughout the game.

I just like hearing Shepard be an ass. Doing shit that I wish I could do in public without gettin the authorties on my ass.
"Hey this store discriminates against the poor!" Lmfao.

my favorite games:

MMA Tyccon (MMA game)
Cybernations
TEW (wretling game)
FM2010 (manager game)
Lordempires.com (New free online city building game)