Gisele Bundchen = Typical Liberal

[tzor]

I think the problem here is that someone thinks Tom Brady is the NFL's best quarterback.

Nonsense, everyone knows it's Joe Namath!

[jimboston]

... yet no proof has been shown yet.

Two examples provided...
1) Gisele wanting to make a law forcing mothers to breastfeed for 6 months... when she herself breastfed her baby for less than a month.
2) John Kerry (Senator from Mass.) always willing to vote on higher taxes for the rich. yet at the same time he parks his yacht in Rhode Island to avoid paying Mass. State Sales tax.

... more examples can be provided.

[jimboston]

jim, what are you talking about? I'm sure there is a hypocritical conservative for every hypocritical liberal in the U.S. If you disagree, then someone else can do the reserach because I'm too lazy .

I am sure you can find plenty of hypocritical Conservatives as well... I never said there are none. Quote the contrary.

That said... I believe most (typical) Democratic/Liberal positions are inherently hypocritical.

Secondly, you're taking a celebrity's quote. I WATCH VH1 (not proud of it though). I KNOW HOW STUPID CELEBRITIES ARE. BRITTNEY SPEARS SAYS SHE THOUGHT TOKYO WAS IN AFRICA (I think). WHY DO YOU THINK ANYONE CARES ABOUT TOM BRADY'S SMOKING HOT WIFE.

I don't think all celebs are dumb.

If people don't care what she said... why read the thread... MOVE ALONG, NOTHING FOR YOU TO SEE HERE...

[jimboston]

I think the problem here is that someone thinks Tom Brady is the NFL's best quarterback.

No one would think I was at all biased in that opinion...

That said... bias aside... look at the Stats. How many Superbowl Rings does Brady wear?

'nuff said

[jimboston]

This thread reminds me that you can't discuss, argue, or debate with the unreasonable. In this case not only unreasonable but ignorant or possibly intellectually challenged.

By the way Tom Brady is a Republican and from California. His wife is from Brazil. The assumptions made are pretty stupid in this thread.

Did you read the initial post?

What assumptions?

Just listed some facts there about what Gisele said... and what she has done.

BTW, her and Tommy Boy can be demonstrated as being hypocritical in other ways. Example... they espoused some "turn off the lights" day awhile back... because they are so environmentally sensative. Yet now they are building a multi-million dollar mansion with a 5-car garage. If you care about the environment enough to tell everyone else they should turn off their lights for a night... how can you own five cars? Hypocritical?

[InkL0sed]

jim, what are you talking about? I'm sure there is a hypocritical conservative for every hypocritical liberal in the U.S. If you disagree, then someone else can do the reserach because I'm too lazy .

I am sure you can find plenty of hypocritical Conservatives as well... I never said there are none. Quote the contrary.

That said... I believe most (typical) Democratic/Liberal positions are inherently hypocritical.

Please explain how you can believe something that is impossible by definition.

[jimboston]

... I believe most (typical) Democratic/Liberal positions are inherently hypocritical.

Please explain how you can believe something that is impossible by definition.

Please explain how my statement is "impossible by definition".

I don't think you understand the phrase "impossible by definition" if you think my statement meets that criteria.

You certainly can disagree with my statement... and ask me to supply evidence to support my statement... but my statement is not "impossible by definition".

[InkL0sed]

I already did. I don't think you understand the meaning of "hypocrite".

hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy

How can a belief system inherently be hypocritical?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. Either you believe something or you don't.

[jimboston]

Thinking all liberals are hypocrites doesn't make you a hypocrite. It does, however, make you a colossal douche.

Thank you. This is your opinion and you are entitled to it... and you may in fact be right.

[jimboston]

I already did. I don't think you understand the meaning of "hypocrite".

hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy

How can a belief system inherently be hypocritical?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. Either you believe something or you don't.

This does not prove anything.

GFY

[Army of GOD]

I am sure you can find plenty of hypocritical Conservatives as well... I never said there are none. Quote the contrary.

That said... I believe most (typical) Democratic/Liberal positions are inherently hypocritical.

I said there is one hypocritical conservative for every hypocritical liberal. For those who aren't very good at math (like you jim, who showed that you lacked teh skillz that thrillz in the other thread) that means x = y (where x = number of hypocritical liberals and y = number of hypocritical conservatives). If you still think that liberal positions are hypocritical and conservative positions aren't...then there is no hope for you.

Also, you're taking very specific examples. Yes, you can find more, but that in no way means the overall view of liberals are hypocritical. Just the opinions of a few of them (which I'm sure holds true for conservatives as well).

[jimboston]

I am sure you can find plenty of hypocritical Conservatives as well... I never said there are none. Quote the contrary.

That said... I believe most (typical) Democratic/Liberal positions are inherently hypocritical.

I said there is one hypocritical conservative for every hypocritical liberal. For those who aren't very good at math (like you jim, who showed that you lacked teh skillz that thrillz in the other thread) that means x = y (where x = number of hypocritical liberals and y = number of hypocritical conservatives). If you still think that liberal positions are hypocritical and conservative positions aren't...then there is no hope for you.

Also, you're taking very specific examples. Yes, you can find more, but that in no way means the overall view of liberals are hypocritical. Just the opinions of a few of them (which I'm sure holds true for conservatives as well).

I think there's just no hope for me.

[Army of GOD]

That is ok jim. I still love you.

[jimboston]

First example (non-specific) of a nearly universal Liberal/Democratic Policy that is inherently Hypocritical.

Affirmative Action

Let's follow the logic.

Liberals/Democrats (in general) try to pretend that they are the better Party because they are for "equal rights". They work hard to convince (and have some good success with this) the people that Democrats are good and that Conservatives/Republicans are bad and are racists. Would you agree that this is a very common stand for Liberals/Democrats?

Now these same people are also in favor of Affirmative Action. Now we have already demonstrated (in another thread) that Affirmative Action is BY DEFINITION a racist policy. If you can't follow this you are stupid and I can't debate with you.

So... here's the conclusion.

If you are a Liberal/Democrat who is for Affirmative Action... you are a Hypocrit.

Comments.

[InkL0sed]

I already did. I don't think you understand the meaning of "hypocrite".

hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy

How can a belief system inherently be hypocritical?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. Either you believe something or you don't.

This does not prove anything.

GFY

It's not a proof of anything but that your statement makes no sense.

Let's take it slowly, shall we?

1. You claim that there is something inherent about liberals (and thus what they believe) that is hypocritical.

2. Hypocrisy means you say you believe something which you do not.

I thought you were smart enough to catch on after these two points, but I guess I'll have to spell it out for you.

Liberalism is a belief. A hypocritical liberal would be someone who someone who claims to be a liberal, but is not, in fact. Or, someone who claims not to be a liberal, but actually is one. Beliefs are not hypocritical - they cannot say they hold one belief, but actually hold another. They are abstract concepts.

I don't know how to make this any clearer. I feel like at this point, if you don't understand what I'm saying, it's like you not understanding why 2 + 2 = 4. I don't know, that's just kind of how numbers work.

[jonesthecurl]

4? blimey, that's whereI've been going wrong.

[jimboston]

It's not a proof of anything but that your statement makes no sense.

Says you... but you are of course wrong.

Let's take it slowly, shall we?

I will try to... but it doesn't seem to be helping you much.

1. You claim that there is something inherent about liberals (and thus what they believe) that is hypocritical.

I claim that "Liberals are Hypocritical". If you want to split hairs we can...

By "Liberals" I mean Liberals and or Democrats as exemplified by mainstream politics in America today. I don't mean their "beliefs" are hypocritical... I mean that the policies they espouse and/or the agenda they push is hypocritical.

2. Hypocrisy means you say you believe something which you do not.

No...most Hypocrits probably (stupidly) actually believe what they say. Hypocrisy is better defined as saying/proposing/espousing one thing... and doing something else.

... for example Gisele likely really believes in her heart that Breat Feeding is good for babies. She's a hypocrit because she believes this... preaches to other people about what they should do... and then does something else herself (i.e. she didn't breast feed her kid for 6 months). When her hypocrisy is brought to her attention... she comes up with some excuse why it shouldn't apply to her. Typical of hypocrits.

I thought you were smart enough to catch on after these two points, but I guess I'll have to spell it out for you.

Thank you I guess... and I am therefore returning the favor.

Liberalism is a belief. A hypocritical liberal would be someone who someone who claims to be a liberal, but is not, in fact. Or, someone who claims not to be a liberal, but actually is one. Beliefs are not hypocritical - they cannot say they hold one belief, but actually hold another. They are abstract concepts.

Liberalism may be a "belief". The terms I used was Liberal and Liberals... which incorporates beliefs, policy statements, political agenda, etc.

Most people I am calling "Liberals" would not calls themselves Liberals... they would call themselves "mainstream Democrats" with "Progressive beliefs".

A few posts earlier I gave the example of Affirmative Action. This is a mainstream Liberal/Democratic policy agenda... I think most here would say that the majority of people who we would call "Liberal" do in fact support Affirmative Action (AA). If you support AA you are by definition a racist. I guarantee most Liberals (who support AA) would say they are in fact the opposite of racist. That is hypocrisy.

Shall present additional examples of Liberal policy/agenda that is obvious hypocrisy?

[Queen_Herpes]

I think the problem here is that someone thinks Tom Brady is the NFL's best quarterback.

No one would think I was at all biased in that opinion...

That said... bias aside... look at the Stats. How many Superbowl Rings does Brady wear?

'nuff said

How many rings did he win last season?

[Army of GOD]

Superbowl rings don't measure how good a quarterback is at quarterback, it shows how good of a leader he is. Brady is among the best in the league, but THE best...Idk. Manning is THE best in my opinion.

[jimboston]

Superbowl rings don't measure how good a quarterback is at quarterback, it shows how good of a leader he is. Brady is among the best in the league, but THE best...Idk. Manning is THE best in my opinion.

Which Manning?

BTW... IMHO your opinion sucks.

[Army of GOD]

Peyton, obviously. Eli is worse than Kyle Orton (no fucking joke).

[mviola]

Peyton, obviously. Eli is worse than Kyle Orton (no fucking joke).

Nah. Eli is a good leader, hence the superbowl ring. He's not the best qb, but his leadership makes up for it.

[Queen_Herpes]

Superbowl rings don't measure how good a quarterback is at quarterback, it shows how good of a leader he is. Brady is among the best in the league, but THE best...Idk. Manning is THE best in my opinion.

Which Manning?

BTW... IMHO your opinion sucks.

I think you missed my question, kind sir! How many rings did Tom Brady win last year?

[thegreekdog]

Peyton, obviously. Eli is worse than Kyle Orton (no fucking joke).

Nah. Eli is a good leader, hence the superbowl ring. He's not the best qb, but his leadership makes up for it.

The Giants went to the Super Bowl (and won it) with defense, not on the arm of Eli Manning.

[jimboston]

Superbowl rings don't measure how good a quarterback is at quarterback, it shows how good of a leader he is. Brady is among the best in the league, but THE best...Idk. Manning is THE best in my opinion.

Which Manning?

BTW... IMHO your opinion sucks.

I think you missed my question, kind sir! How many rings did Tom Brady win last year?

I didn't miss it, I chose to ignore it because we all know the answer and it's moot. No one can win the ring every year.

Non-debateable fact... Brady has the most Super Bowl rings of any active Quarterback.

Based on this fact I profess (debateable opinion) that he is the greatest Quarterback in the NFL. (The preposition in would infer active participant.)