Gen.LeeGettinhed [Closed] DCR

[deathcomesrippin]

This case is closed.

There was a lot of discussion about this case, and it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the highest quality, they are still legal.

I would like to point out that any further cases brought before us about this exact topic will be considered spurious reports, as the games he is playing are not breaking any rules. Please refrain from it any more. If you would like to see changes, unfortunately this is not the forum to post those suggestions. Please post them in Suggestions.

[GoranZ]

This case is closed.

There was a lot of discussion about this case, and it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the highest quality, they are still legal.

Since there are reports about GLG's playing tactics on weekly basis its obviously wast majority of the players dont agree with you. Ofcourse you can ignore them but that will eventually bring only bad things to the game.

I would like to point out that any further cases brought before us about this exact topic will be considered spurious reports, as the games he is playing are not breaking any rules. Please refrain from it any more. If you would like to see changes, unfortunately this is not the forum to post those suggestions. Please post them in Suggestions.

Not suggestions but Bugs... obviously there are bugs in some combinations of maps, settings and rules.

One question. Is it legal to use bugs in the game for points increase?

Goran

[Evil Semp]

This case is closed.

There was a lot of discussion about this case, and it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the highest quality, they are still legal.

Since there are reports about GLG's playing tactics on weekly basis its obviously wast majority of the players dont agree with you. Ofcourse you can ignore them but that will eventually bring only bad things to the game.

Not a majority just the vocal group.

I would like to point out that any further cases brought before us about this exact topic will be considered spurious reports, as the games he is playing are not breaking any rules. Please refrain from it any more. If you would like to see changes, unfortunately this is not the forum to post those suggestions. Please post them in Suggestions.

Not suggestions but Bugs... obviously there are bugs in some combinations of maps, settings and rules.

One question. Is it legal to use bugs in the game for points increase?

Goran

Not a bug either.

[cookie0117]

So inviting people to private games under the pretense of "teaching them the game/map", when really you are charging them 5-6 points to see how to get their asses whipped. Without giving them any lessons or advice on the map during game play. Is seems a gross abuse of the game. As personally it seem deceptive to start and invite to games in that way.

Its definately unsporting/dishonest. Which I feel should be considered a gross abuse of the game as its a gross abuse of players.

[GoranZ]

Not a majority just the vocal group.

How do you know what those that haven't said anything think?

Not suggestions but Bugs... obviously there are bugs in some combinations of maps, settings and rules.

Not a bug either.

If its not a bug then how did GLG manage to achieve 196 wins out of 198 games and to earn average ~5 points per game? Looking at the percentages he is more efficient then most of industrial machines(they do few percents mistake) or some irregularities are involved.

[Evil Semp]

Not a majority just the vocal group.

How do you know what those that haven't said anything think?

How do you know what the majority think?

Not suggestions but Bugs... obviously there are bugs in some combinations of maps, settings and rules.

Not a bug either.

If its not a bug then how did GLG manage to achieve 196 wins out of 198 games and to earn average ~5 points per game? Looking at the percentages he is more efficient then most of industrial machines(they do few percents mistake) or some irregularities are involved.

He chooses his opponents and a map that he knows. Cheap? Yes. Bug? No.

[king achilles]

GoranZ feel free to post in the Bug Reports forum or pm me what exactly do you see here as a bug. C&A is a forum to make reports about cheating and the Bug Reports is the forum to state any bug issues. General Discussions is the forum where you can engage in CC related subjects. There is also the Off Topics forum where you can discuss things not related to Conquer Club. If you think certain combination of settings should not be allowed, please post your idea in the Suggestions Forum.

As for these Ranching reports, we are aware of this issue and we are also thinking of solutions in addressing this subject just so you know. And as what deathcomesrippin said, it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the "highest quality", they are still legal.

[eddie2]

So inviting people to private games under the pretense of "teaching them the game/map", when really you are charging them 5-6 points to see how to get their asses whipped. Without giving them any lessons or advice on the map during game play. Is seems a gross abuse of the game. As personally it seem deceptive to start and invite to games in that way.

Its definately unsporting/dishonest. Which I feel should be considered a gross abuse of the game as its a gross abuse of players.

you have forgot to add to this that after glg beats them and they show they do not understand the map and will join the game because it is seen as a special thing getting invited to a game from the top player on site and most will do it once.. glg gets lanlards to invite them to a team doubles game these games are made the same private glg and lanlards on 1 side while there opponants are 2 players they have invited to the game, these 2 players have never played with each other or team games before... now this 2nd part to what is happening must be against site rules somewhere.

[Leehar]

This case is closed.

There was a lot of discussion about this case, and it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the highest quality, they are still legal.

Since there are reports about GLG's playing tactics on weekly basis its obviously wast majority of the players dont agree with you. Ofcourse you can ignore them but that will eventually bring only bad things to the game.

Not a majority just the vocal group.

I don't think the Report-writer Shai however really belongs to it? Perhaps the 'usual contingent' jumped on it support of it, but if there are people who are unacquainted with the forums and the fine line in legality, I doubt it's fair for them to be punished for spurious reporting if they are experiencing a seemingly natural flow of thinking glg is breaking the spirit of the rules?

[deathcomesrippin]

So inviting people to private games under the pretense of "teaching them the game/map", when really you are charging them 5-6 points to see how to get their asses whipped. Without giving them any lessons or advice on the map during game play. Is seems a gross abuse of the game. As personally it seem deceptive to start and invite to games in that way.

Its definately unsporting/dishonest. Which I feel should be considered a gross abuse of the game as its a gross abuse of players.

you have forgot to add to this that after glg beats them and they show they do not understand the map and will join the game because it is seen as a special thing getting invited to a game from the top player on site and most will do it once.. glg gets lanlards to invite them to a team doubles game these games are made the same private glg and lanlards on 1 side while there opponants are 2 players they have invited to the game, these 2 players have never played with each other or team games before... now this 2nd part to what is happening must be against site rules somewhere.

Again though, as low as the tactic may be, it is not against any written rule at this point. The players invited are not NRs, so there is no farming involved. Ranching is at this juncture within the rules. Just because they do it in doubles does not make it any less legal. This form of ranching may be a new low, but it is unpunishable. Sorry.

[deathcomesrippin]

This case is closed.

There was a lot of discussion about this case, and it still boils down to the fact that even though his tactics may be considered not of the highest quality, they are still legal.

Since there are reports about GLG's playing tactics on weekly basis its obviously wast majority of the players dont agree with you. Ofcourse you can ignore them but that will eventually bring only bad things to the game.

Not a majority just the vocal group.

I don't think the Report-writer Shai however really belongs to it? Perhaps the 'usual contingent' jumped on it support of it, but if there are people who are unacquainted with the forums and the fine line in legality, I doubt it's fair for them to be punished for spurious reporting if they are experiencing a seemingly natural flow of thinking glg is breaking the spirit of the rules?

It would be case by case basis, for sure. All my post was referring to was the fact that unless the rule changes these cases and any similar will be closed immediately, and we will look at the reporter on a case by case basis.

[eddie2]

well the thing you got to look at is the fact glg is not inviting them to the games i will go as far as to say these players would not accept another invite from glg.. so he gets lanlards to invite them then once they join glg joins the games.. this if it is the way it is happening has got to come under invite abuse.

[Evil Semp]

well the thing you got to look at is the fact glg is not inviting them to the games i will go as far as to say these players would not accept another invite from glg.. so he gets lanlards to invite them then once they join glg joins the games.. this if it is the way it is happening has got to come under invite abuse.

eddie change your approach. Try getting GLG on tax evasion or something similar.

[eddie2]

lol

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

. . .So inviting people to private games under the pretense of "teaching them the game/map", when really you are charging them 5-6 points to see how to get their asses whipped. Without giving them any lessons or advice on the map during game play. . .

wrong on several counts -- your facts are old/mixed up:
NO PRETENSE:
- I haven't promised to teach them the game in well over a year
- when I DID promise to teach, I did -- in detail: and 2 people earned 1,000 and 2,500 pts from those maps
CHARGING 5-6 PTS TO GET ASSES WHIPPED, but 5-6 pts:
- to offset RISK of -60, -80, -100 pts to me -- it's like a raffle/lottery to them
- so they should pay 20 pts to get beat by others?
- privates-sgts that play high ranks SHOULD expect to lose -- they LIKE playing higher ranks
WITHOUT GIVING ANY LESSONS.. . DURING GAME PLAY:
- DURING the game? and add more risk to losing 60-100 pts? are you insane? I run a business here
- see above, I rarely promise lessons - but when I did, I delivered

Please get your facts straight before exaggerating/BSing the public

GLG

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[eddie2]

. . .So inviting people to private games under the pretense of "teaching them the game/map", when really you are charging them 5-6 points to see how to get their asses whipped. Without giving them any lessons or advice on the map during game play. . .

wrong on several counts -- your facts are old/mixed up:
NO PRETENSE:
- I haven't promised to teach them the game in well over a year
- when I DID promise to teach, I did -- in detail: and 2 people earned 1,000 and 2,500 pts from those maps
CHARGING 5-6 PTS TO GET ASSES WHIPPED, but 5-6 pts:
- to offset RISK of -60, -80, -100 pts to me -- it's like a raffle/lottery to them
- so they should pay 20 pts to get beat by others?
- privates-sgts that play high ranks SHOULD expect to lose -- they LIKE playing higher ranks
WITHOUT GIVING ANY LESSONS.. . DURING GAME PLAY:
- DURING the game? and add more risk to losing 60-100 pts? are you insane? I run a business here
- see above, I rarely promise lessons - but when I did, I delivered

Please get your facts straight before exaggerating/BSing the public

GLG

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quoted for the next case lol.

[deathcomesrippin]

I think this has run its' course.

LOCKED.