Conquer Club

Symmetry wrote:

waauw wrote:

Symmetry wrote:They're meant to be terrifying, an extreme right website promoting Islamaphobia would hardly be doing its job if it weren't peddling irrational fear of Muslims, would it?

Doesn't matter. What matters is whether the info is true.

I'm from an academic background, the provenance of a piece of information is useful in figuring out its veracity.

You're argument before was that you were sure some of it was true, and you had doubts about others, so I suppose the question is- which parts do you think are true?

Academic background pfft, your words every time you post prove exactly the opposite you lying little troll, unless you somehow think quick glancing at the internet makes you an academic.
Try something new, learn something anything for real for once, then when you post people will know you have a grasp on every fucking subject on the fucking planet as you try to let on like now
Dipshit troll symturd

jgordon1111 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

waauw wrote:

Symmetry wrote:They're meant to be terrifying, an extreme right website promoting Islamaphobia would hardly be doing its job if it weren't peddling irrational fear of Muslims, would it?

Doesn't matter. What matters is whether the info is true.

I'm from an academic background, the provenance of a piece of information is useful in figuring out its veracity.

You're argument before was that you were sure some of it was true, and you had doubts about others, so I suppose the question is- which parts do you think are true?

Academic background pfft, your words every time you post prove exactly the opposite you lying little troll, unless you somehow think quick glancing at the internet makes you an academic.
Try something new, learn something anything for real for once, then when you post people will know you have a grasp on every fucking subject on the fucking planet as you try to let on like now
Dipshit troll symturd

So...

..we cool, right?

Symmetry wrote: I'm from an academic background

Earning a BA in English literature doesn't qualify you as getting to say that you're from an "academic background."

the provenance of a piece of information is useful in figuring out its veracity.

The above statement notwithstanding, does you being from an "academic background" have any relevance at all to the truth value of this statement?

Metsfanmax wrote:

Symmetry wrote: I'm from an academic background

Earning a BA in English literature doesn't qualify you as getting to say that you're from an "academic background."

the provenance of a piece of information is useful in figuring out its veracity.

The above statement notwithstanding, does you being from an "academic background" have any relevance at all to the truth value of this statement?

Do my other degrees count?

I appreciate that you've had to see these quotes removed from their context- a discussion as to whether you should consider the source of an argument when judging if it's reliable.

I would say that there is relevance.

Or, if you like, I tend to check stuff.

Symmetry wrote: Do my other degrees count?

Depends. Are they less unimpressive?

I appreciate that you've had to see these quotes removed from their context- a discussion as to whether you should consider the source of an argument when judging if it's reliable.

I am pretty sure that no additional context is necessary, since "you should consider the source of an argument to judge if it's reliable" is merely a rewording of the quote I provided above. You have provided no further information by adding this qualifier. I am starting to doubt you really even got that degree in English.

On the other hand, I freely concede the object-level point, as I can immediately recognize that a post is not worth paying attention to when your name is attached to it.

I would say that there is relevance.

Or, if you like, I tend to check stuff.

Oh, is that so? Did you actually check the stuff in question, or merely utter a disdainful remark and move on?

It's pretty clear that I checked the site

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p4801181

The rest of your post seems to be a bizarrely stated attack culminating in you saying that you're ignoring me.

You still ignore the questions. Whats your stance on the remarks waauw pointed out? You dont have to go threw them all, just few.
Ignoring them lead us to conclusion that you agree with the research.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:With regards to the provenance of sources, yes. A fact needs a verifiable source, and a trustworthy one. Waauw was arguing that the source doesn't matter, as long as it's true.

After chatting with him, Waauw accepted that he didn't really trust the stuff he posted either, and it seems he was unaware of the provenance.

Academic training is brutal when it comes to referencing and judging sources. I'm generally lazier here than in RL, but the training sticks sometimes even here.

Questions remain... Or do you completely agree with the answers of your fellow Muslims?

GoranZ wrote:As a Muslim living in UK, what are your views on the following subjects?

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
• 46% of UK Muslims believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics."
• 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians are Islamic countries. Of the top 50 countries, only 12 have a source other than Islam.
• Only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true.

GoranZ wrote:You still ignore the questions. Whats your stance on the remarks waauw pointed out? You dont have to go threw them all, just few.
Ignoring them lead us to conclusion that you agree with the research.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:With regards to the provenance of sources, yes. A fact needs a verifiable source, and a trustworthy one. Waauw was arguing that the source doesn't matter, as long as it's true.

After chatting with him, Waauw accepted that he didn't really trust the stuff he posted either, and it seems he was unaware of the provenance.

Academic training is brutal when it comes to referencing and judging sources. I'm generally lazier here than in RL, but the training sticks sometimes even here.

Questions remain... Or do you completely agree with the answers of your fellow Muslims?

GoranZ wrote:As a Muslim living in UK, what are your views on the following subjects?

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
• 46% of UK Muslims believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics."
• 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians are Islamic countries. Of the top 50 countries, only 12 have a source other than Islam.
• Only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true.

Given that I'm not a Muslim, how can I answer them? Your premise was flawed from the start.

It's as if I asked you to answer questions as someone who thinks about what they type.

Goranz, stop trying to incite prejudice in the UK.

Those stats are not representative.

End Off Conversation.

Symmetry wrote:

GoranZ wrote:You still ignore the questions. Whats your stance on the remarks waauw pointed out? You dont have to go threw them all, just few.
Ignoring them lead us to conclusion that you agree with the research.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:With regards to the provenance of sources, yes. A fact needs a verifiable source, and a trustworthy one. Waauw was arguing that the source doesn't matter, as long as it's true.

After chatting with him, Waauw accepted that he didn't really trust the stuff he posted either, and it seems he was unaware of the provenance.

Academic training is brutal when it comes to referencing and judging sources. I'm generally lazier here than in RL, but the training sticks sometimes even here.

Questions remain... Or do you completely agree with the answers of your fellow Muslims?

GoranZ wrote:As a Muslim living in UK, what are your views on the following subjects?

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
• 46% of UK Muslims believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics."
• 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians are Islamic countries. Of the top 50 countries, only 12 have a source other than Islam.
• Only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true.

Given that I'm not a Muslim, how can I answer them? Your premise was flawed from the start.

It's as if I asked you to answer questions as someone who thinks about what they type.

The mistake Goran may have made is not his flaw but yours, and that is your PRETENSE to know about every subject brought up on the forum as the premiere expert on all of them little troll, because you have the internet at a quick glance, but sadly no true knowledge on any of them of which you make quite clear with your ignorant responses or your bypassing of questions, that you would have to spend time looking up real answers instead of the b.s. you try to pass off as real answers, I.e., your so called ACADEMIC background pfft little troll try again

I'm curious. What is symmetry's academic background anyway? What did he study?

jgordon1111 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

GoranZ wrote:You still ignore the questions. Whats your stance on the remarks waauw pointed out? You dont have to go threw them all, just few.
Ignoring them lead us to conclusion that you agree with the research.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:With regards to the provenance of sources, yes. A fact needs a verifiable source, and a trustworthy one. Waauw was arguing that the source doesn't matter, as long as it's true.

After chatting with him, Waauw accepted that he didn't really trust the stuff he posted either, and it seems he was unaware of the provenance.

Academic training is brutal when it comes to referencing and judging sources. I'm generally lazier here than in RL, but the training sticks sometimes even here.

Questions remain... Or do you completely agree with the answers of your fellow Muslims?

GoranZ wrote:As a Muslim living in UK, what are your views on the following subjects?

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
• 46% of UK Muslims believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics."
• 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians are Islamic countries. Of the top 50 countries, only 12 have a source other than Islam.
• Only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true.

Given that I'm not a Muslim, how can I answer them? Your premise was flawed from the start.

It's as if I asked you to answer questions as someone who thinks about what they type.

The mistake Goran may have made is not his flaw but yours, and that is your PRETENSE to know about every subject brought up on the forum as the premiere expert on all of them little troll, because you have the internet at a quick glance, but sadly no true knowledge on any of them of which you make quite clear with your ignorant responses or your bypassing of questions, that you would have to spend time looking up real answers instead of the b.s. you try to pass off as real answers, I.e., your so called ACADEMIC background pfft little troll try again

I don't need an academic background to know that I'm not Muslim, mate.

Symmetry wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

GoranZ wrote:You still ignore the questions. Whats your stance on the remarks waauw pointed out? You dont have to go threw them all, just few.
Ignoring them lead us to conclusion that you agree with the research.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:With regards to the provenance of sources, yes. A fact needs a verifiable source, and a trustworthy one. Waauw was arguing that the source doesn't matter, as long as it's true.

After chatting with him, Waauw accepted that he didn't really trust the stuff he posted either, and it seems he was unaware of the provenance.

Academic training is brutal when it comes to referencing and judging sources. I'm generally lazier here than in RL, but the training sticks sometimes even here.

Questions remain... Or do you completely agree with the answers of your fellow Muslims?

GoranZ wrote:As a Muslim living in UK, what are your views on the following subjects?

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
• 46% of UK Muslims believe "the Jewish community in Britain is in league with the Freemasons to control the media and politics."
• 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians are Islamic countries. Of the top 50 countries, only 12 have a source other than Islam.
• Only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true.

Given that I'm not a Muslim, how can I answer them? Your premise was flawed from the start.

It's as if I asked you to answer questions as someone who thinks about what they type.

The mistake Goran may have made is not his flaw but yours, and that is your PRETENSE to know about every subject brought up on the forum as the premiere expert on all of them little troll, because you have the internet at a quick glance, but sadly no true knowledge on any of them of which you make quite clear with your ignorant responses or your bypassing of questions, that you would have to spend time looking up real answers instead of the b.s. you try to pass off as real answers, I.e., your so called ACADEMIC background pfft little troll try again

I don't need an academic background to know that I'm not Muslim, mate.

Of course you are not Muslim, only your ancestors are Sunni Muslims(mostlikely Arab), and you are English flower
As far as I know you haven't said anything bad about Sunni Islam(or its Saudi form of Wahhabism), which makes you quite in favor of Islam.

Regardless if you are Muslim or not questions still remain...
1. Do you support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad? (Yes/No)
2. Do you support the use of violence against those blaspheming Islam? (Yes/No)
3. Are 9 of the top 10 persecutors of Christians Islamic countries? (Yes/No)
4. Is Darwin’s theory is probably or most certainly true? (Yes/No)
5. Sharia law should be used in the world? (Yes/No)

Direct questions, go ahead.

Here are my answers:
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No

I don't know what "you are English flower" means, but then most of your posts are basically unintelligible.

Symmetry wrote:I don't know what "you are English flower" means, but then most of your posts are basically unintelligible.

English is not my native language, but if you have difficulties understanding me you only confirm that you are not from academic background(literature ), you are a Muslim or maybe both

Last time for the questions for you.

Another horrible fact... Over Half of Germans Expect Terrorist Attack in Germany This Year

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:I don't know what "you are English flower" means, but then most of your posts are basically unintelligible.

English is not my native language, but if you have difficulties understanding me you only confirm that you are not from academic background(literature ), you are a Muslim or maybe both

Last time for the questions for you.

Another horrible fact... Over Half of Germans Expect Terrorist Attack in Germany This Year

Still not a Muslim, buddy.

What I really can't grasp is that these people are supposed to believe that life is a gift from God. So how can they believe that God wants them to steal away the gifts which He has bestowed on children?

Kevi wrote:What I really can't grasp is that these people are supposed to believe that life is a gift from God. So how can they believe that God wants them to steal away the gifts which He has bestowed on children?

A conundrum worthy of Abraham.

Symmetry wrote:

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:I don't know what "you are English flower" means, but then most of your posts are basically unintelligible.

English is not my native language, but if you have difficulties understanding me you only confirm that you are not from academic background(literature ), you are a Muslim or maybe both

Last time for the questions for you.

Another horrible fact... Over Half of Germans Expect Terrorist Attack in Germany This Year

Still not a Muslim, buddy.

I agree, you are probably Wahhabi , you are too radical to be normal Sunni Muslim.

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

GoranZ wrote:

Symmetry wrote:I don't know what "you are English flower" means, but then most of your posts are basically unintelligible.

English is not my native language, but if you have difficulties understanding me you only confirm that you are not from academic background(literature ), you are a Muslim or maybe both

Last time for the questions for you.

Another horrible fact... Over Half of Germans Expect Terrorist Attack in Germany This Year

Still not a Muslim, buddy.

I agree, you are probably Wahhabi , you are too radical to be normal Sunni Muslim.

Thanks to Islamic Terrorists and Rapefugies...

Lot of brainwashed people in this thread.

persianempire wrote:Lot of brainwashed people in this thread.

Kind of a vague statement there persi, care to elaborate?

Another attack by the Islamists, this time in Orlando.

ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando mass shooting

Seems like there is a need for new politicians that will deal with Islamic threat once and for all.

GoranZ wrote:Another attack by the Islamists, this time in Orlando.

ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando mass shooting

Seems like there is a need for new politicians that will deal with Islamic threat once and for all.

STFU!

You should worry about Macedonia poor economy and you can add your love for Russia too.


Thought you were killed by Islamist terrorists, we didn't hear from you awhile. It was nice without you.