Puerto Ricans Thank Daddy for Post-Hurricane Help

[notyou2]

Saxi, what is Trumps opinion of the Palestinians, and the treatment of them by the Israelis?

[saxitoxin]

Saxi, what is Trumps opinion of the Palestinians, and the treatment of them by the Israelis?

In January - barely seventy-two hours after taking complete control of the machinery of the United States government - President Donald J. Trump's Special Representative for International Negotiations Jason Greenblatt - cousin of the anti-Vietnam War activist Bob Greenblatt - said that the United States "expressed serious concern over the worsening humanitarian situation in Gaza."

And ...

“If Hillary Clinton had been elected, the Palestinians would now be meeting with [former Middle East envoy] Dennis Ross to discuss small confidence-building steps in the West Bank,” Nathan Thrall, author of the recently released book, The Only Language They Understand: Forcing Compromise in Israel and Palestine, told me. “It would amount to putting a pretty face on basically the same [Israeli] occupation, slightly adjusted, while putting off any potential resolution of the conflict for at least four years.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... nk/527601/

Daddy would have made more progress by now, however, the endless braying of conspiracy theories by the enemy means he has to keep his base solid and, unfortunately, that means not ruffling the feathers of the evangelical lunatics. Every indication he's given is that we'll see more progress towards Palestinian liberation after he wins the mid-term elections, and even more after his second term begins. There are domestic enemies that have to be destroyed and we appreciate him needing room to do that first. He still has to operate within the slow limits imposed by the law, at least for the time being.

[patches70]

And honestly, can you suggest another reason why someone would suddenly jump up and lavish hyperbolic praise on someone else who hadn't anything to deserve it?

Uhh, yeah, I can take the less cynical view and just take the guy at his word when he says the response has been helpful, or whatever the PR governor said. It's quite possible it's what he actually believes. Did you ever stop to consider that?

I don't think you need FEMA at all.

I agree! The running of that bureaucracy sucks up resources that could be better served actually serving disaster victims!

Biff's half-hearted response to giving aid to America's largest non-state possession was slow, miserly, and cynical.

See, you say this as if it's gospel truth. I don't know if that's true or not. I have no idea how long it takes to gather millions of tons of supplies, food, medicine, building supplies, etc etc. I have no idea how long it takes to gather up the transport for all those supplies and I'm not sure how long it would take for those transports to actually deliver said supplies. I have no idea how long or how difficult it would be to distribute said supplies in the disaster zone in an efficient and wise manner.
And that's not even considering the economic side, as in are the accounts to pay for all this already set up? If not, how long does it take to transfer money from one place to another, accounting of said funds and accounts set up so payments can be made for the supplies, the transports and all the other costs associated. There is a whole system that has to be set up and that ain't quick either. The funds have to be assessed, appropriated, set up etc etc.

But I can guess it'd all be a hell of a bitch.

The Canadian government quite often just throws a huge pile of cash at the Red Cross and says, "here, you worry about what to do next." It's not perfect, but it works.

So, lemme get this straight. If Trump said to the Red Cross "here ya go, here's a few billion dollars. You guys go fix PR". You'd be all thumbs up, heaping praise upon Trump for his wise and virtuous action? Har! I think not. Even if the Red Cross were the most efficient sons of bitches at disaster relief, the relief is still not going to come quick enough. It can't come quick enough because the people needed it right now! And by right now I mean in the first minute that the hurricane moved off. Such relief is impossible unless you've already gathered up the essential supplies and have them on hand and in your possession at that moment.
Which unfortunately not nearly enough people do or have. And even those who do that might not be enough, especially if they get injured severely.


I think you are viewing this through a heavy lens of cynicism. I feel ya, I truly do. There are times when cynicism is useful and even correct. I'm just not sure this is one of those times. But the groveling and blackmailing stick you went on about is pretty much just bullshit. That is beyond cynicism and dives straight into the deep end of the pool of bias.
Is the relief enough? I have no idea, I have no inkling of exactly what PR needs.
Will the relief be quick enough? Of course not, it never is, ever.

[saxitoxin]

Maybe this is how, during the Fort McMurray Wildlife (which Canada only took one year and three months to put out), Trudeau refused all foreign aid offers even as 100,000 people had to abandon an entire city. Trudeau wanted to be the only Big Chief voters would thank. He knows he needs as many votes in Alberta as he can get and he was willing to destroy Fort McMurray to get them.

[patches70]

Maybe this is how, during the Fort McMurray Wildlife (which Canada only took one year and three months to put out), Trudeau refused all foreign aid offers even as 100,000 people had to abandon an entire city. Trudeau wanted to be the only Big Chief voters would thank. He knows he needs as many votes in Alberta as he can get and he was willing to destroy Fort McMurray to get them.

I remember when that happened! I remember seeing the pictures and the video. It was a massive fire if I recall. However, I had no idea it had been burning all this time.

That's hilarious. Was there something like a giant pile of tires that caught fire or something? Why'd it take so long to put out?

[saxitoxin]

Maybe this is how, during the Fort McMurray Wildlife (which Canada only took one year and three months to put out), Trudeau refused all foreign aid offers even as 100,000 people had to abandon an entire city. Trudeau wanted to be the only Big Chief voters would thank. He knows he needs as many votes in Alberta as he can get and he was willing to destroy Fort McMurray to get them.

I remember when that happened! I remember seeing the pictures and the video. It was a massive fire if I recall. However, I had no idea it had been burning all this time.

That's hilarious. Was there something like a giant pile of tires that caught fire or something? Why'd it take so long to put out?

Incompetence and a desire to squeeze Alberta for votes by manufacturing a crisis in which Trudeau could present himself as the savior.

That's fine, Trudeau will need all the votes he can get after President Trump bankrupts Bombardier. From the list of things that won't exist by the time President Trump re-takes the oath of office in 2020 -

[karel]

trump was fast to act,better then f*cking obama did when new Orleans got pounded,if i remember right think that dick bag was golfing

[riskllama]

wasn't Bush in office when Katrina happened? and no, the Ft. Mac fire wasn't "burning" the whole time, it was officially declared "out". not exactly the same thing, is it?

[Dukasaur]

If you're against Trump, you support Clinton. If you support Clinton, you support the Libyan militias, rape squads, Israel, and ISIS.

Bullshit. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

I said several times that if I had the misfortune to be faced with a choice of only Clinton and Trump, I would vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils. That doesn't mean I would ever lower myself to praising him. I would simply hold my nose, cast my ballot for him, and then go outside to vomit. I would be honest and say, "Yes, he's a despicable piece of shit, but he's marginally better than that other piece of shit over there."

I understand that a two-party system forces you to sometimes make unpalatable choices between two steaming piles of shit. It doesn't make it right to sing songs of praise to an evil man. Every day you need to say, "the lesser of two evils is still evil."

[Dukasaur]

wasn't Bush in office when Katrina happened?

Yes. Karel's command of history is on a par with Trump's.

[riskllama]

lol, karel...

[saxitoxin]

If you're against Trump, you support Clinton. If you support Clinton, you support the Libyan militias, rape squads, Israel, and ISIS.

Bullshit. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

I said several times that if I had the misfortune to be faced with a choice of only Clinton and Trump, I would vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils. That doesn't mean I would ever lower myself to praising him. I would simply hold my nose, cast my ballot for him, and then go outside to vomit. I would be honest and say, "Yes, he's a despicable piece of shit, but he's marginally better than that other piece of shit over there."

I understand that a two-party system forces you to sometimes make unpalatable choices between two steaming piles of shit. It doesn't make it right to sing songs of praise to an evil man. Every day you need to say, "the lesser of two evils is still evil."

[karel]

wasn't Bush in office when Katrina happened? and no, the Ft. Mac fire wasn't "burning" the whole time, it was officially declared "out". not exactly the same thing, is it?

wrong jack ass oibama was porez,sorry you dont know your history,better goggle it son...let me help you it was in 2005

[karel]

wasn't Bush in office when Katrina happened?

Yes. Karel's command of history is on a par with Trump's.

and your the f*cking idiot who does not know who ptrez was in 2005,f*cking googgle it,prove me f*cking wrong

[Symmetry]

wasn't Bush in office when Katrina happened?

Yes. Karel's command of history is on a par with Trump's.

and your the f*cking idiot who does not know who ptrez was in 2005,f*cking googgle it,prove me f*cking wrong

Bush II was president in 2005, dude. Exaggerating your illiteracy won't bail you out of this one.

[karel]

sorry meant sandy

[Symmetry]

sorry meant sandy

Wow.

[karel]

whatever obama was and still is a lame piece of shit that should be in jail or kicked out of the country like f-en killary

[Symmetry]

whatever obama was and still is a lame piece of shit that should be in jail or kicked out of the country like f-en killary

So to recap- you were obviously wrong, people pointed that out, you posted abuse about them, but you still think your point was right?

[karel]

whatever obama was and still is a lame piece of shit that should be in jail or kicked out of the country like f-en killary

So to recap- you were obviously wrong, people pointed that out, you posted abuse about them, but you still think your point was right?

hell yea why not,.the left is always right?they can do no wrong,so can i

[Symmetry]

whatever obama was and still is a lame piece of shit that should be in jail or kicked out of the country like f-en killary

So to recap- you were obviously wrong, people pointed that out, you posted abuse about them, but you still think your point was right?

hell yea why not,.the left is always right?they can do no wrong,so can i

Who told you that the left can do no wrong? I think you could use this as something to learn from, k. Think for yourself, dude.

[karel]

cuz your from the uk im thinking,so you would not understand

[Symmetry]

cuz your from the uk im thinking,so you would not understand

I've lived in the US. And a couple of other countries besides. You seem to be dodging the issue with this. Do you think that only your perspective is valid?

[karel]

hell yea if every snowflake is right then im right

[Symmetry]

hell yea if every snowflake is right then im right