Say no to beef AND MILK

[mrswdk]

are you asking if real indians have a sacred relationship like the misidentified indians have with the bison?

No, he asked if Hindus do.

[tzor]

Do the Hindu's have a stated position on the holiness of Bison?

I don't know for sure because I don't have an authoritative answer in front of me. I recall some personal conversations from Hindus which suggested that they did not. In all honesty, I have never told any bison about that.

[mookiemcgee]

Do the Hindu's have a stated position on the holiness of Bison?

I don't know for sure because I don't have an authoritative answer in front of me. I recall some personal conversations from Hindus which suggested that they did not. In all honesty, I have never told any bison about that.

I wouldn't bring it up with Bison unless they ask... Sometimes it's just better no to know.

And thanks to Jones! He has provided me with the closest thing I think I will find to an answer!

Symm, GFY!

[jimboston]

I probably have two meals with meat each day... some days maybe 3 meals, once in awhile 1 meal... rarely do I have a day with no meat, but it does happen occasionally. I think if you averaged it out it’d be something like 1.8 meals per day.

Now when I say meat, it could be beef, chicken, pork... and it could be in the form of fresh meat, cold cuts, sausage/smoked meat, etc. I honestly don’t keep track.

To my tastes, there’s nothing better than a nice grilled Ribeye with some grilled veggies and some starch (maybe potatoes or rice or a nice baguette).

That said, I know my ‘diet’ is not good... it’s not good for my health, and it’s not environmentally friendly.

I like the taste of my meat, and my society makes it easy... it’s not super expensive (relative to my income and other expenses), and it’s easy to obtain.

If there were some ‘carbon’ tax promoted that made meat more expensive then I would probably reduce my intake. It would help if I couldn’t walk into generic chain ‘steak-house’ and get a plate full of marinated tips for under $10. Maybe restaurants would get more creative with better mixed dishes (like asian stir-fry)... where there is some meat, but more rice or vegetables. These can be tasty and filling and nutritious...if cooked properly. As a young man working in a supermarket I thought Tofu was gross looking... but my mother-in-law used to prepare stir-fry dishes that had beef or pork and tofu... and she could cook it so you never even realized half your protein was from Tofu. Unfortunately as she’s aged she’s lost the ability to cook properly, and if you don’t time the stir-fry right it gets soggy and gross.

Like many of these problems with the environment I’m willing to pay-to-play... but business fights these proposals. It’s also likely that people with money will continue to buy 20oz Ribeyes and lower income people will wind up having low-protein diets. These issues can be addressed with taxes, but obviously there’s a point where people resist. Socialism only works to a point, because it’s been demonstrated that people abuse the system. In smaller groups and in the past we felt it was ok to shame people who abused the social safety net... but now that’s called ‘classism’. There is a balance, but people don’t seem to want to work towards this... and our political system is not designed to move slowly to test solutions. Our policies and rhetoric swing from extreme to extreme.... and the system seems designed to appeal to the loudest people on the ends of the spectrum, ignoring the mass in the middle.

Kinda like this forum.

I’m sad now... and a little tipsy.

Goodnight.

[Symmetry]

I probably have two meals with meat each day... some days maybe 3 meals, once in awhile 1 meal... rarely do I have a day with no meat, but it does happen occasionally. I think if you averaged it out it’d be something like 1.8 meals per day.

Oh dear, this is gonna be a long rambling post about what he eats, isn't it?

Now when I say meat, it could be beef, chicken, pork... and it could be in the form of fresh meat, cold cuts, sausage/smoked meat, etc. I honestly don’t keep track.

To my tastes, there’s nothing better than a nice grilled Ribeye with some grilled veggies and some starch (maybe potatoes or rice or a nice baguette).

That said, I know my ‘diet’ is not good... it’s not good for my health, and it’s not environmentally friendly.

I like the taste of my meat, and my society makes it easy... it’s not super expensive (relative to my income and other expenses), and it’s easy to obtain.

If there were some ‘carbon’ tax promoted that made meat more expensive then I would probably reduce my intake. It would help if I couldn’t walk into generic chain ‘steak-house’ and get a plate full of marinated tips for under $10. Maybe restaurants would get more creative with better mixed dishes (like asian stir-fry)... where there is some meat, but more rice or vegetables. These can be tasty and filling and nutritious...if cooked properly. As a young man working in a supermarket I thought Tofu was gross looking... but my mother-in-law used to prepare stir-fry dishes that had beef or pork and tofu... and she could cook it so you never even realized half your protein was from Tofu. Unfortunately as she’s aged she’s lost the ability to cook properly, and if you don’t time the stir-fry right it gets soggy and gross.

Like many of these problems with the environment I’m willing to pay-to-play... but business fights these proposals. It’s also likely that people with money will continue to buy 20oz Ribeyes and lower income people will wind up having low-protein diets. These issues can be addressed with taxes, but obviously there’s a point where people resist. Socialism only works to a point, because it’s been demonstrated that people abuse the system. In smaller groups and in the past we felt it was ok to shame people who abused the social safety net... but now that’s called ‘classism’. There is a balance, but people don’t seem to want to work towards this... and our political system is not designed to move slowly to test solutions. Our policies and rhetoric swing from extreme to extreme.... and the system seems designed to appeal to the loudest people on the ends of the spectrum, ignoring the mass in the middle.

Kinda like this forum.

I’m sad now... and a little tipsy.

Goodnight.

Yup

[nietzsche]

you're a douche Symmetry

[Symmetry]

you're a douche Symmetry

I don't think you know what that word means, mate. Short version- it's something you need, but you really don't want from me.

[riskllama]

sym = munter

[jimboston]

Oh dear, this is gonna be a long rambling post about what he eats, isn't it?

Yup

Not fair.... you were able to read the whole post before you wrote that.


To be fair, I’m on vacation and was a little tipsy.

[mrswdk]

My takeaway from that post was that jb likes being given the tip.

[mrswdk]

A carbon footprint calculator, for working out which ingredients it would be most beneficial for you to start cutting from your diet:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46459714

Unsurprisingly, beef is far and away the most unfriendly source of protein and cow's milk is far and away the worst form of milk.

Click image to enlarge.

[mrswdk]

Japanese government vows to make fight for the climate 'sexy' and 'fun' in order to engage more people in the cause:

https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 15941.html

Vegan alternatives to many of our favourite and coolest foods already exist. For example, replace wings, burgers and fried chicken with some delicious and more sustainable vegan alternatives:

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/ken ... ied-seitan

[nietzsche]

will they also replace your balls with ovaries?

cause that's totally gay

[mrswdk]

nietzsche thinks having clean air, a home that hasn't been flooded, and homosexuality are all bad.

[nietzsche]

mrs pang thinks having no balls is fine.

[mrswdk]

mrs pang thinks having no balls is fine.

aka being a woman

nietzsche thinks being a woman is not fine

[mrswdk]

The gene that enables humans to consume dairy milk is a fairly recent genetic mutation that arose because humans in cold, desolate places became so desperate for food they had to resort to cow's milk.

The genetic mutation to process lactose is just that: a mutation—not an ideal, or even the norm. The true outliers are not those with lactose intolerance, but lactase persistence, as it's known to researchers.

Recent breakthroughs in genetics challenge the idea that humans have long held the ability to process lactose in fresh milk. These studies suggest the mutation only took hold among Northern European dairy farmers some 3,000 years ago, most likely out of dire need, since the climate wasn't conducive to growing much else.

https://psmag.com/news/why-is-milk-bein ... ist-symbol

Now that food in developed countries is plentiful, it is time to stop the environmental catastrophe that is the organised rape of cows, which occurs simply because some people in developed countries are too cheap to fork out for soy milk. They would rather save $0.20 per litre and let the world flood. For shame.

[jhonmiller]

Thanks for such healthy discussion on the topic of Grills. It really help me out in getting the valueable insight.

[nietzsche]

[mrswdk]

People in OT who have renounced the demon beef:

mrswdk
saxitoxin
Dukasaur

People in OT who are killing the planet and also have BO:

nietzsche

[DoomYoshi]

I stand with my Mexican brethren.

[tzor]

People in OT who are killing the planet and also have BO:

NO ONE IS KILLING THE PLANET.
The BO thing on the other hand ... might be a fair cop.

[nietzsche]

People in OT who have renounced the demon beef:

mrswdk
saxitoxin
Dukasaur

People in OT who are killing the planet and also have BO:

nietzsche

my body is a rock thanks to the protein i eat. and the my main source of protein? yes, beef.

it's up to you if you want to be a blob.

say yes to beef.

[Dukasaur]

People in OT who have renounced the demon beef:

mrswdk
saxitoxin
Dukasaur

People in OT who are killing the planet and also have BO:

nietzsche

Strictly speaking, I haven't renounced beef, I've just reduced my consumption.

[mrswdk]

People in OT who have renounced the demon beef:

mrswdk
saxitoxin
Dukasaur

People in OT who are killing the planet and also have BO:

nietzsche

my body is a rock thanks to the protein i eat. and the my main source of protein? yes, beef.

it's up to you if you want to be a blob.

say yes to beef.

I get all the protein I need from elsewhere. Say yes to being a rock while also saying yes to protecting the environment. Say yes to rejecting beef. Say yes to A FUTURE.

Also there is no way you are a rock. More of a pebble, or maybe one of those shiny little shells you find on the beach.