The Environment

[mr. incrediball]

Also, incrediball, dont forget infant-mortality rates as well.

Me must sacrifice our children to keep global warming at bay.

are you a pastafarian theologan? no. SO SHUT UP!

*whoosh!*

Right over my head.

you've never heard of pastafarianism? or the flying spaghetti monster?

GOD IS REAL AND HE'S MADE OF PASTA!

[Titanic]

There's always the tried and tested way of reducing the hu-man population:
WAR!

As long as Russia is involved, theres always a lot of deaths.

Global warming is a man-made problem. The scientists who reported to the UN twice earlier this year were from over 100 different countries (all of the OECD was represented) and concluded that it was down to man. Screw your right-wing conservative data misrepresentation, these were real scientists representing the countries. They knew what they were talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fourt ... ent_Report

[Norse]

I tell you, Im sat here, freezing my nuts off...and summer has only just passed...I wish this fooking global warming would hurry up.

[Titanic]

Global warming does not just warm things up. Due to the increased amount of fresh water in the gulf stream and other vital currents, the whole climate has changed, so theres more extreme weather more often (as the UK experianced this summer). This can mean more rain, snow, higher winds, tornadoes, flash floods, and obviously hotter temperatures and higher humidity.

Btw Norse, your cold? Im in Lancaster atm which is about 300miles north of you and its fairly warm.

[mr. incrediball]

Global warming does not just warm things up. Due to the increased amount of fresh water in the gulf stream and other vital currents, the whole climate has changed, so theres more extreme weather more often (as the UK experianced this summer). This can mean more rain, snow, higher winds, tornadoes, flash floods, and obviously hotter temperatures and higher humidity.

Btw Norse, your cold? Im in Lancaster atm which is about 300miles north of you and its fairly warm.

*shakes head* northerners! i'm freezing

[Minister Masket]

"Save what is left. Or destroy it all"

[Titanic]

Global warming does not just warm things up. Due to the increased amount of fresh water in the gulf stream and other vital currents, the whole climate has changed, so theres more extreme weather more often (as the UK experianced this summer). This can mean more rain, snow, higher winds, tornadoes, flash floods, and obviously hotter temperatures and higher humidity.

Btw Norse, your cold? Im in Lancaster atm which is about 300miles north of you and its fairly warm.

*shakes head* northerners! i'm freezing

I'm not a northerner, I'm a midlander!

Bloody ignorant southerners...

[Norse]

you're northern if you're past the watford gap...

Thats nose-bleed territory for me.

[Titanic]

you're northern if you're past the watford gap...

Thats nose-bleed territory for me.

Watford Gap? Thats the first service station north of teh M25. Northerners start when you got above the Midlands counties, ie Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Warwickshire, West Midlands, Lincolnshire.

[Iliad]

And do you guys realise that maybe for us half a degree doesn't matter but for many plants and animals it does?

[unriggable]

And do you guys realise that maybe for us half a degree doesn't matter but for many plants and animals it does?

Not to mention that many insects base their mating habits on temperature, as a result they mate earlier, pupas hatch earlier (some as early as two weeks) and so many birds are running out of food.

[radiojake]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

[Iliad]

Do you guys know what an ecological footprint is?
Here is a site with a calculator of it:
http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/ecologicalfoo ... uction.asp

[cawck mongler]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

[Iliad]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

[radiojake]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

It has everything to do with the environment because the industrial revolution has destroyed it. Also I would hardly call what I wrote an essay.

[cawck mongler]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

Because there's actually a way to prove ice caps are melting faster then before, right? Why the f*ck would you mention Siberia dumbass, 95% of the worlds ice is in Antarctica.

And no, even if global warming was happening, it isn't like a tier on the edge of a hill as you so elequently put it. Its to complex for anyone to determine how it happens, the globe frequently goes through cycles where all the ice melts, but it still grows back, so no the ocean doesn't 'ABZORB LAZAR HEAT RAYS LOL'. In fact, one theory is that as the ice melts, it cools the ocean and starts global freezing.

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

[Iliad]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

Because there's actually a way to prove ice caps are melting faster then before, right? Why the f*ck would you mention Siberia dumbass, 95% of the worlds ice is in Antarctica.

And no, even if global warming was happening, it isn't like a tier on the edge of a hill as you so elequently put it. Its to complex for anyone to determine how it happens, the globe frequently goes through cycles where all the ice melts, but it still grows back, so no the ocean doesn't 'ABZORB LAZAR HEAT RAYS LOL'. In fact, one theory is that as the ice melts, it cools the ocean and starts global freezing.

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Non-one gives a shit about?

Dude did you read my post? The carbon dioxide trapped in the tundras of Siberia under the ice is being relaeasaed because the ice is thawing. More carbon dioxide= more global warming-=more carbon dioxide=more global warming

Seeing a pattern there?

[radiojake]

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Where do you think natural resources come from? Retard. As I said at the top of my post I said 'lets put a different perspective' - so yes it wasn't about global warming but it's still all linked with the environment.

Also if you learned about the over consumption of natural resources in year 6, you must've had a cool fucking teacher. The question is now then, why the f*ck did you decide to pass it off as irrelevant - and why are you so ignorant to not realise that industrial revolution has EVERYTHING to do with environmental destruction

[cawck mongler]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

Because there's actually a way to prove ice caps are melting faster then before, right? Why the f*ck would you mention Siberia dumbass, 95% of the worlds ice is in Antarctica.

And no, even if global warming was happening, it isn't like a tier on the edge of a hill as you so elequently put it. Its to complex for anyone to determine how it happens, the globe frequently goes through cycles where all the ice melts, but it still grows back, so no the ocean doesn't 'ABZORB LAZAR HEAT RAYS LOL'. In fact, one theory is that as the ice melts, it cools the ocean and starts global freezing.

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Non-one gives a shit about?

Dude did you read my post? The carbon dioxide trapped in the tundras of Siberia under the ice is being relaeasaed because the ice is thawing. More carbon dioxide= more global warming-=more carbon dioxide=more global warming

Seeing a pattern there?

Yeah so give me a list of creditable scientists to back your claim. Most scientists say its impossible to determine whether or not global warming is happening, and there's a ton of evidense both for it and against it. Giving me ONE reason why you think it is happening, when there are hundreds both for it and against it is stupid, especially when I just debunked your point anyways (glaciers in Siberia have melted before, the excess carbon dioxide released from them didn't f*ck anyone over).

[cawck mongler]

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Where do you think natural resources come from? Retard. As I said at the top of my post I said 'lets put a different perspective' - so yes it wasn't about global warming but it's still all linked with the environment.

Also if you learned about the over consumption of natural resources in year 6, you must've had a cool fucking teacher. The question is now then, why the f*ck did you decide to pass it off as irrelevant - and why are you so ignorant to not realise that industrial revolution has EVERYTHING to do with environmental destruction

Okay, let me put my point more soundly. I agree with you, but its basic knowledge and there's no reason to repeat it and doing so is only your way of having a cyber-hippie jerk fest.

[Titanic]

I'm going to put a different perspective on this topic.

Industrial Civilization is (by definition) unsustainable. Regardless of global warming or not, the fact is that it is impossible for Western Civilization to continue on in the next 100 or 200 years or so.

Let's look at some things, shall we.

Every city brings in resources from outside of the city to sustain and feed the population, and to power the vast amount of cars, buildings, plasma tv's, etc. The resources taken is fair outweighing the amount of resources being produced. Simple maths can come to the conclusion that one day it is ALL GOING TO RUN OUT.

The environment is fucked because the entire capitalist system is based on the theory that economic advancement is more important than environmental sustainability. But lets face it, what is going to fucking feed you when your hungry?? The economy or the environment? River's are polluted, animals are becoming extinct but that is all ok because, hey f*ck it, we're humans and we can do what the f*ck we want to make a dollar, no matter who or what it exploits.

Here's an interesting thought, especially aimed at all those people who don't want 'border crossers' in your country. OK, so we close the borders, get tighter security on the border and stop all people coming in. Sound good yeah? OK while we're doing that how about we stop bringing in all imported food. You allow other countries resources to come flooding in for your enjoyment and pleasure but not people?? No coffee from south america, no banana's, no OIL (oh wouldn't that be ironic)

Western cities steal and take resources from all over the globe to help feed their unsustainable living. Won't be long until it all falls back on itself.

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

Because there's actually a way to prove ice caps are melting faster then before, right? Why the f*ck would you mention Siberia dumbass, 95% of the worlds ice is in Antarctica.

And no, even if global warming was happening, it isn't like a tier on the edge of a hill as you so elequently put it. Its to complex for anyone to determine how it happens, the globe frequently goes through cycles where all the ice melts, but it still grows back, so no the ocean doesn't 'ABZORB LAZAR HEAT RAYS LOL'. In fact, one theory is that as the ice melts, it cools the ocean and starts global freezing.

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Non-one gives a shit about?

Dude did you read my post? The carbon dioxide trapped in the tundras of Siberia under the ice is being relaeasaed because the ice is thawing. More carbon dioxide= more global warming-=more carbon dioxide=more global warming

Seeing a pattern there?

Yeah so give me a list of creditable scientists to back your claim. Most scientists say its impossible to determine whether or not global warming is happening, and there's a ton of evidense both for it and against it. Giving me ONE reason why you think it is happening, when there are hundreds both for it and against it is stupid, especially when I just debunked your point anyways (glaciers in Siberia have melted before, the excess carbon dioxide released from them didn't f*ck anyone over).

Is this enough scientific proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fourt ... ent_Report

"The report was produced by around 600 authors from 40 countries, and reviewed by over 620 experts and governments. Before being accepted, the summary was reviewed line-by-line by representatives from 113 governments during the 10th Session of Working Group I, which took place in Paris, France, between 29 January and 1 February 2007."

Btw, yes they can measure the amount of icebergs that are melting. They know that the Arctic has shrunk dramatically in the past 20 years, and know the size and layout of the arctic every year. They also know this about the Antarctic, but atm as a percentage the Antarctic has not been affected as much.

[cawck mongler]

Yeah no shit, you're like 50 years to late faggot. This has nothing to do with the fucking environment, so why in the world did you bring it up? And why in the f*ck did you write a fucking essay on it?

How was that an essay? Dude that just proves how low your intelligence is if you think that would be hard to type up.

And another thing about globabl warming is it's like a tyre on the edge of steep hill. Once you push the tyre over that point stopping it would be almost impossible. Ice mostly reflects the rays of the sun(it reflects 90%). However as teh ice melts there is more water, which absorbs heat warming the planet up.

In Siberia and other tundras the thawing is causing Carbon dioxide to be released after it was trapped under the ice for thousands of years. We must grow aware of the environment and save it.

Because there's actually a way to prove ice caps are melting faster then before, right? Why the f*ck would you mention Siberia dumbass, 95% of the worlds ice is in Antarctica.

And no, even if global warming was happening, it isn't like a tier on the edge of a hill as you so elequently put it. Its to complex for anyone to determine how it happens, the globe frequently goes through cycles where all the ice melts, but it still grows back, so no the ocean doesn't 'ABZORB LAZAR HEAT RAYS LOL'. In fact, one theory is that as the ice melts, it cools the ocean and starts global freezing.

To other guy: you didn't mention the environment, you just went on about natural resources which NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AND ALREADY KNOWS, we all learned that shit in grade 6, yet you type a page re-explaining it. Why?

Non-one gives a shit about?

Dude did you read my post? The carbon dioxide trapped in the tundras of Siberia under the ice is being relaeasaed because the ice is thawing. More carbon dioxide= more global warming-=more carbon dioxide=more global warming

Seeing a pattern there?

Yeah so give me a list of creditable scientists to back your claim. Most scientists say its impossible to determine whether or not global warming is happening, and there's a ton of evidense both for it and against it. Giving me ONE reason why you think it is happening, when there are hundreds both for it and against it is stupid, especially when I just debunked your point anyways (glaciers in Siberia have melted before, the excess carbon dioxide released from them didn't f*ck anyone over).

Is this enough scientific proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fourt ... ent_Report

"The report was produced by around 600 authors from 40 countries, and reviewed by over 620 experts and governments. Before being accepted, the summary was reviewed line-by-line by representatives from 113 governments during the 10th Session of Working Group I, which took place in Paris, France, between 29 January and 1 February 2007."

Btw, yes they can measure the amount of icebergs that are melting. They know that the Arctic has shrunk dramatically in the past 20 years, and know the size and layout of the arctic every year. They also know this about the Antarctic, but atm as a percentage the Antarctic has not been affected as much.

It fails to prove that people are causing or speeding up global warming to a considerable extent. Its basically just reconfirming that the earth goes through climate cycles, and that we emit a lot of CO2, and everyone already knows that. It doesn't support anything anyone arguing against me has said, so why the f*ck bring it up?

[Iliad]

Duce we produce Co2. Co2 is a greenhosue gas. The more Co2 we produce the more global warming there would be. Don't hide behind cycles because this is was more stronger than a usual cycle.

[cawck mongler]

Duce we produce Co2. Co2 is a greenhosue gas. The more Co2 we produce the more global warming there would be. Don't hide behind cycles because this is was more stronger than a usual cycle.

No the earth is barely warming at all, some glaciers are growing and the number of natural disasters (in the US) has actually been shrinking since 1950.

Scientists have been unable to link CO2 with any sort of global warming and everything right now is just speculation about a natural cycle we can't even start to predict.

Also, on average global warming would help mankind, scientists have proven that. Longer growing seasons means more crops, and a shorter winter means a cheap heating bill. The overall detrimental effects global warming would (or possibly is) having doesn't amount to much.