Sack the feedback moderators

[Bruceswar]

1. He chased after 5 live cards in a speed game. - Means we are both there and can cash at the same time in freestyle.
2. I cashed 1 sec behind him and he proceeds to try and take me out knowing he cannot do so but still waste his armies.
3. Gets a gift win and thus now he has not commited suicide.

Why didn't your feedback say that? That seems like it would warn people sufficiently, and is factual.

The simple fact is we call it suicide. Getting a gift win does not make it anything else but suicide. If fact he was going to die with ease if 2 players had not run into each other on their way to kill clean him up.

[Timminz]

The simple fact is we call it suicide. Getting a gift win does not make it anything else but suicide.

Do you seriously STILL not understand why they deemed your feedback "not factual"? I'd really like to see you understand this, so I'll explain it once more. The "simple fact" that you, or anyone else, call it suicide, doesn't make it true. Getting "a gift win" is exactly what makes it not suicide.

Let's try an example.

My friends and I think you act like this guy we know called Frank, so we start calling you Frank. No matter how much we call you Frank, that's not your name.

[Bruceswar]

The simple fact is we call it suicide. Getting a gift win does not make it anything else but suicide.

Do you seriously STILL not understand why they deemed your feedback "not factual"? I'd really like to see you understand this, so I'll explain it once more. The "simple fact" that you, or anyone else, call it suicide, doesn't make it true. Getting "a gift win" is exactly what makes it not suicide.

Let's try an example.

My friends and I think you act like this guy we know called Frank, so we start calling you Frank. No matter how much we call you Frank, that's not your name.

So you are telling me you never once used a word in a not literal sense? Surely there are expressions in life you have used that you would not actually carry out. Lets get real here. While it may not have been 100% literal, it was the same idea.

And for the record I know why it was deleted, but should not have been. Lets not drag this into small minor points. I mean how many times have you heard people say... " I will kill you for that" They are really not going to kill you, but it is used as an expression.

I am done with this topic.

[Timminz]

So you are telling me you never once used a word in a not literal sense? Surely there are expressions in life you have used that you would not actually carry out. Lets get real here. While it may not have been 100% literal, it was the same idea.

And for the record I know why it was deleted, but should not have been. Lets not drag this into small minor points. I mean how many times have you heard people say... " I will kill you for that" They are really not going to kill you, but it is used as an expression.

I am done with this topic.

The whole point is that there's a difference between what's used commonly, and what's acceptable as "factual" in a feedback. Now that you've realized this (I think), we can all be done with this. Good work everyone.

[Fruitcake]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....what was that? oh yes...jolly good show.

[owenshooter]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....what was that? oh yes...jolly good show.

*groggily* zzzzzzzz... huh?!! whaaa? i don't wanna go to school mum...

p.s.-he didn't suicide if he won the game. period.

[Bruceswar]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....what was that? oh yes...jolly good show.

*groggily* zzzzzzzz... huh?!! whaaa? i don't wanna go to school mum...

p.s.-he didn't suicide if he won the game. period.

Ok then he tried.... Anyhow I got my feedback to stick and that is all that matters.

[kletka]

Not a rule just to different tools with examples.

You stated it as a rule. Just add "IMHO" next time because you seem to be completely screwed up in your head Feedback is the last place for frivolous accusations in cheating. If you can prove it, accuse in the cheating forum. If you suspect but have no proof, add to foe and shut up. Are you on of the nasty **** feedback moderators by any chance

BTW, I never leave neg to a person who wins the game. I did once at the very beginning but then removed when I understood the system. Whatever you do, miss turns, suicide, piss people off in a chat, if this brings you the victory, you have done it right Cheating is a different matter but still feedback is no place for cheating accusations. See my comment above.

[Timminz]

I could've sworn this thread locked yesterday. in a rather condescending way, to boot

[firth4eva]

ARGGGGHHHH
Fucking bullshit. Apparently you can also flame so long as it does not "change the message of the feedback"

Also, even if you do leave feedback after someone, yours is deleted for not being factual. Despite him not having any intention of leaving a neg, his is still not deleted.

Also,

Revealed my position in fog of war. Very rude and abusive in game chat.

yellow is weak and has figye and xi, plus sler.

Is this revealing position or not?

[wicked]

If you would like to appeal a feedback decision, the place to do it is in etickets (please respond to the email sent you), not here.

[firth4eva]

Hello firth4eva,

The feedback quoted below has been changed to Negative.

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No need wicked.

[wicked]

In the future, that is.

[Bruceswar]

I could've sworn this thread locked yesterday. in a rather condescending way, to boot

It was locked for a bit... but then reopened.

[Fruitcake]

I could've sworn this thread locked yesterday. in a rather condescending way, to boot

It was locked for a bit... but then reopened.

Bloomin' 'eck, I go to sleep thinking this is all over, only to wake and find that, like some plant from Day of the Triffids, it has grown and grown!!!

[owenshooter]

wait.. another prematurely locked thread?!! how does this happen so often? that is just insane!!! and again,i have never had a need for the feedback moderators, so i can't speak personally about any experiences. i think most of the problem is people that abuse the system and overwhelm the mods. i mean, seriously, giving a guy a negative for using a tactic (which was called suiciding), that eventually won him the game, is just bush league. if i was a mod, i might let that one drift to the bottom of the pile!-0

[wrestler1ump]

The double standards of feedback moderation have prompted me to stop leaving feedback. I don't know whether people use cash or credit card to pay the feedback police, but it sure seems to work for some.

[clapper011]

[wicked]

Damn, I want some of that money! Please send all contributions, err "requests" to ask for feedback removal to my paypal account.

[owenshooter]

Damn, I want some of that money! Please send all contributions, err "requests" to ask for feedback removal to my paypal account.

if this is as lucrative as i am being led to believe it is... where do i apply and whom do i pay to ensure my hire?-0

[kletka]

The way I see it, unless a feedback contains profanity or abuse, it should be left alone. Stop bloody moderating it

[wrestler1ump]

How about the negative feedbacks that are valid, but are loaded with insults to put the other person down? Feedback should be a way to inform others what it was like playing a specific person, not to take shots at a person ie calling them a loser, idiot, asshole, etc.

[PLAYER57832]

Is that not what the feedback system is for? Letting someone know how "your" game went with this person? .

No, to neg them says this is a person that everyone should avoid playing, in your opinion, not just that you had a bad game.

Funny how so MANY of those who feel they "know" what makes a "good" move are actually fairly low ranked players!

[Bruceswar]

Is that not what the feedback system is for? Letting someone know how "your" game went with this person? .

No, to neg them says this is a person that everyone should avoid playing, in your opinion, not just that you had a bad game.

Funny how so MANY of those who feel they "know" what makes a "good" move are actually fairly low ranked players!

Well generally I play 1 type of game and know what kinda moves it takes to win a game. I play 8 man freestyle Escalating. So to crash into someone else big stack early does you nor the person you crashed into no good. Generally both of you end up losing. In cases like this a person has the right to leave appropriate feedback. I always tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I see the same players making the same mistakes time after time in the games. They chase bonuses, which mean nothing in 8 man games, or they run big stacks together early on and then tell you they thought you were a threat. Yet next round or 2 you both die. In the type of game I play the same people win about 90% of the time. Tells you these people must be doing something right?

[Fruitcake]

Is that not what the feedback system is for? Letting someone know how "your" game went with this person? .

No, to neg them says this is a person that everyone should avoid playing, in your opinion, not just that you had a bad game.

Funny how so MANY of those who feel they "know" what makes a "good" move are actually fairly low ranked players!

Well generally I play 1 type of game and know what kinda moves it takes to win a game. I play 8 man freestyle Escalating. So to crash into someone else big stack early does you nor the person you crashed into no good. Generally both of you end up losing. In cases like this a person has the right to leave appropriate feedback. I always tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I see the same players making the same mistakes time after time in the games. They chase bonuses, which mean nothing in 8 man games, or they run big stacks together early on and then tell you they thought you were a threat. Yet next round or 2 you both die. In the type of game I play the same people win about 90% of the time. Tells you these people must be doing something right?

That would be you I assume Bruce.