Conquer Club

Whoo, I did call it, 2-2 so far. Never thought my X-Men knowledge would come in handy. I think serbia would be more likely than ace, although I'm not sure.

Something doesn't add up though...let's go through the list of claimed players and characters.

Jean Gray
Cyclops
Colossus
Storm
Gambit
Deadpool
Wolverine
Darwin

Looking at who was killed (Iceman, Blob, Mystique, etc.) it's all been classic X-Men so far. Except for Darwin. He's a much more recent X-Man. I cast my suspicion on strike wolf.

Now that we killed a mafia, we probably don't have to worry about LYLO today. That being said, here's Ga7's list again. I've colored it to show, in my opinion, who is most likely to be scum. Blue= Definitely Town, Green= I believe they are town for now, but I'm not completely sure, Red= Most likely to be scum.

ga7 - Jean Grey - weirdass bulletproof/lover - gunna die tonight oh oh
Victor Sullivan (replacing trestain) - Cyclops - had two shots doc protect, one shot vig kill/lover - gunna die tonight babyyyy
Safariguy (replacing Duday replacing Uhum) - Storm, ends the day without lynch, now vanilla - role proven by day 1
AceArtemis - claims Colossus, Bodyguard and partially immune to NKs
fircoal (replacing wercool) - claims Wolverine, Bulletproof day vig
colton - Rogue, role blocker/copier
strike wolf - claims Darwin, Evolver (gets immune to actions), got Bulletproof night 3
aage - claims Deadpool, 3rd party Schitzo
Serbia - claims Gambit, Booster (random effect)

Aage claimed third party, and you can never trust a third party...but serbia has generally acted more scummy this game.

How about I just off Serbia and if I'm wrong you sort it out tomorrow, with for instance Colton blocking Strike wolf to see if there's a kill etc? I really doubt Colton played us all this time since he really didn't have to get out his action on day 2... Could be wrong I guess. If Serbia is town that clears Aage, except if Magneto has godfather-like powers that would make the investigation just his fakeclaim. Meh, I'll try to check back a bit later and decide.

Just a question but if Colton is what we think he is, then who is the hider that he copied? I believe it was Edoc who was "claiming" that role...

ga7 wrote:How about I just off Serbia and if I'm wrong you sort it out tomorrow, with for instance Colton blocking Strike wolf to see if there's a kill etc? I really doubt Colton played us all this time since he really didn't have to get out his action on day 2... Could be wrong I guess. If Serbia is town that clears Aage, except if Magneto has godfather-like powers that would make the investigation just his fakeclaim. Meh, I'll try to check back a bit later and decide.

That sounds like a good idea, but we should allow Serbia time for a final defense. I also doubt colton is scum, but he's in the green because I can't say for certain that he is town.

Fircoal wrote:Just a question but if Colton is what we think he is, then who is the hider that he copied? I believe it was Edoc who was "claiming" that role...

I think maybe Mystique was considered closer to a hider, because how could Colton have been aware of a busdrive even if he was scum? With the Magnet around too I'm still not even sure how all the actions worked out though lol

ga7 wrote: for instance Colton blocking Strike wolf to see if there's a kill etc?

This won't really help, since if Strike Wolf is not mafia, the mafia will just try to kill one of the bulletproof people to cast suspicion on SW.

I meant in the case there's only one mafia left, if it's SW there wouldn't be a kill. If there's 2 left then yes, it's useless. I sure hope not considering the scum team's powers...

ga7 wrote:I meant in the case there's only one mafia left, if it's SW there wouldn't be a kill. If there's 2 left then yes, it's useless. I sure hope not considering the scum team's powers...

What I meant was this:
Suppose aage is mafia.
During the night, aage tries to kill me, and colton blocks SW.
There will be no deaths, and we will immediately suspect SW, even if he's not guilty.

Anyways, I kind of brought it off topic. Serbia, please give your defense.

aage wrote:From my point of view either Colton or Edoc have to be lying for this setup to be true. Edoc's reaction sounds like he has been lying. However there is the thing were Colton targeted me and got a hider action.

The solution to this problem is simple (well, not really, but it is to me atm):
Edoc is a mafia busdriver.

Let's see if Mr. S will confirm this. If not, I suggest killing Colton as well.

Wait whoa.
You want the town to lose a roleblocker/powerstealer that practically works like a cop?
Scum slip up perhaps?

AceArtemis wrote:3rd party Schitzo

The thing that worries me about aage telling the truth is that aage will target me after his above statement and, with my luck, kill me. >_>
I don't trust 3rd parties typically.

OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

colton24 wrote:OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

But Edoc was scum so doesn't that mean that he was falsifying his action or what? SQUIRREL GET UR FURREH BUTT IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT EDOC'S ROLE DID!!!!

Fircoal wrote:

colton24 wrote:OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

But Edoc was scum so doesn't that mean that he was falsifying his action or what? SQUIRREL GET UR FURREH BUTT IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT EDOC'S ROLE DID!!!!

It did exactly what he said it did.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

Fircoal wrote:

colton24 wrote:OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

But Edoc was scum so doesn't that mean that he was falsifying his action or what? SQUIRREL GET UR FURREH BUTT IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT EDOC'S ROLE DID!!!!

It did exactly what he said it did.

Colton, what did you get from Night 1, what power? Was it just to hide or was it to do what Edoc did?

ga7 wrote:I have two theories, one being Serbia because he's been never voting scum and accusing townies then laying low all game

Whoa, wait a second. As far as accusing townies, that's basically everyone, not just me. And as far as voting scum, it's true I didn't vote for sensfan, but I was pushing him to give his defense right at the end of the day there. I didn't vote yet because I was actually following your lead, frenchie:

ga7 wrote:L -2, Edoc didn't unvote. It's fine though, we don't want an accidental hammer...

Serbia wrote:sensfan hasn't posted much, and when he has posted, he has been scummy. Looking for a lynch here, he's about as attractive a vote as anyone at this moment.

The people on my scumdar are victor, who seems unwilling to put in any effort in a game he asked to replace in. Which could either mean he's scummy, or just a lazy individual.
sensfan, who basically is acting the same as victor, but has managed to slide under the radar, as he's been in the game longer.
Ace, who basically throws things against the wall, then vanishes. He'd be more effective (and could possibly solidify his position as a concerned townie) if he were actually around and playing.

In the interest of a lynch though, I'm perfectly ready to vote sensfan. Best we've got to go on currently.

See, I was saying sensfan was scummy right there. Others voted for him instead of letting him defend himself - which worked out, seeing as he was scum. But I'm not scum. I told you my actions, and edoc showing to be scum proves that I wasn't lying too.

Fircoal wrote:

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

Fircoal wrote:

colton24 wrote:OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

But Edoc was scum so doesn't that mean that he was falsifying his action or what? SQUIRREL GET UR FURREH BUTT IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT EDOC'S ROLE DID!!!!

It did exactly what he said it did.

Colton, what did you get from Night 1, what power? Was it just to hide or was it to do what Edoc did?

Hide.

Fircoal wrote:

colton24 wrote:OH, and aage, I got the hider cause edoc hid/changed into you and I got his roles ability instead of yours.

But Edoc was scum so doesn't that mean that he was falsifying his action or what? SQUIRREL GET UR FURREH BUTT IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT EDOC'S ROLE DID!!!!

I think he could hide behind people, but that is what I got from him.

ga7 wrote:Wait a minute...
Colton couldn't have copied you unless he was actually targeting Naxus, since you're immune to night actions aimed at you. But Colton targeted Aage. Then Serbia, who claims to have charged Edoc, couldn't have busdrived Aage & Naxus. Then WTF???

I thought Colton had targetted Naxus?

AceArtemis wrote:

ga7 wrote: for instance Colton blocking Strike wolf to see if there's a kill etc?

This won't really help, since if Strike Wolf is not mafia, the mafia will just try to kill one of the bulletproof people to cast suspicion on SW.

Well when Colton roleblocked ga7, it showed that ga7 was bulletproof. Maybe it will work out the same for me?

What if ga7 was to target aage instead of Serbia. If aage shows up mafia than serbia looks to me like the next lynch. If aage is 3rd party as he claims it's better than lynching a town power role at least.

Yeah, I say go with aage. From what I've read, I think he's the best lynch option.

Ionno guys, aage is a known problem. We can always have fir take care of him later. I'd go with someone a little more scummy as we only have 1 go at this for ga7. That Darwin roleclaim still bothers me. It doesn't fit into this setup.

This is horrible.

You guys appear to not believe Serbia and me. I know I'm the 3rd party, which means Serbia must have some sort of cop action, otherwise he wouldn't know. Cop action however doesn't mean he's town. Mafia so far have been having town powers (bullet proofness, shapeshifting).. Killing me will not confirm Serbia's claim.

On the other hand there's Colton claiming to have targeted me and getting a hide action. I don't have a hide action! It's that simple. Means either Colton is lying and we should lynch him, or there's a busdriver and I'm thinking it's most probably aligned to Mafia.

Busdriver options to me are Ace and Strike Wolf, because they just don't post enough and they don't post enough contents to my liking. Their behaviour is scummy to me, even though they may have claimed. As you saw with Edoc, claims don't have to fit.

There's just one thing I want to know, and that is, Mr. S, if a copier targets me, will they also get a random action, or will they get the same action as I get during that night?

And a final question to Y'all: why would Serbia claim his own and my role while he is under suspicion? Don't you suppose it's terribly stupid of a scum to drag a fellow scum into his downfall? I don't know how many games Serbia played, but he doesn't seem like that big of a fool to me. Which of course means his claim is valid and we both are not scum...

If I weren't third party survivor I'd have told you to go ahead and kill me right away, but since I am, it's better for my win condition if I didn't... Just remember that if I win, you don't neccesarily lose.

colton24 wrote:Naxus didn't target safari and steal his vote...

colton24 wrote:Ok. I roleblocked you and took your ability which was the ability to hide. Thank you very much

Like I thought. Colton targeted Naxus not aage.

As far as me not posting much. I don't know. I haven't been getting on during weekends as much as I feel I want to but other than that I think I've been reasonably active and lack of content is bullshit. It's not like I've been throwing out one line posts all day and I'm not putting useless filler into my posts.

Other than that, there's only a few options left as far as remaining mafia. A. you and serbia are mafia and were protecting each other yesterday. B. Colton has been playing us like chumps with his Rogue claim. C. Ace is the last mafia.

Out of these either you and serbia or ace is more likely. He brought unnecessary attention to sensfan on day 3 but could have been an attempt to distance himself. You have thrown yourself out there into the limelight a lot for someone claiming to be a third party schitzo with survivor conditions. The second reason I admit may be a personal preference I have when it comes down to it, if I was mafia and there was a known third party schitzo in the game. I'd want him taken out. That didn't happen, instead they aimed for a bulletproof role which in itself made no sense as a target...Serbia for two reasons, he did associate himself with you by his claim yesterday and so now any suspicious activity either of you do is going to look bad for both. Second, edoc role may have been mafia but it did explain why everyone who targeted Naxus ended up getting edoc rather than Naxus which makes me wonder why Serbia thought he had busdriven Naxus with edoc. Either he got caught at the bad end of a bad situation or he lied.