Buffy the Vampire Slayer Game over-Town Won-Graduation Day

[mandalorian2298]

f*ck!!!!! I knew I was screwed today, too large a slipup to go unnoticed. Pissed I couldn't take Buffy with me. More pissed that I got killed by Faith.

Well, if it eases your pain, you weren't killed by Faith. Now be a good little pile of ash and don't talk until I NK the rest of your friends.

[Anarkistsdream]

Edoc went to Mandy on night 3
Naxus didn't go anywhere on Night 4.

Those were my two results... I still can't believe ANY of you people think I'm scum. *roll*

[mandalorian2298]

Edoc went to Mandy on night 3
Naxus didn't go anywhere on Night 4.

Those were my two results... I still can't believe ANY of you people think I'm scum. *roll*

I guess Doc would have protected me from the block allowing me to kill Ga7, so you might be telling the truth. On the other hand, if you are lying, Naxus will either contradict you or Naxus is in fact your last scum buddy, which we will find out after NK you.

P.S. All this talk about NKing you shouldn't bother you if you are Town, since a Townie doesn't have to survive to win.

[Anarkistsdream]

Edoc went to Mandy on night 3
Naxus didn't go anywhere on Night 4.

Those were my two results... I still can't believe ANY of you people think I'm scum. *roll*

I guess Doc would have protected me from the block allowing me to kill Ga7, so you might be telling the truth. On the other hand, if you are lying, Naxus will either contradict you or Naxus is in fact your last scum buddy, which we will find out after NK you.

P.S. All this talk about NKing you shouldn't bother you if you are Town, since a Townie doesn't have to survive to win.

I just want to make sure that we always outnumber mafia and third party... Besides that, I'm good. I'm in enough other games, it doesn't bother me.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

So we started with 19 players...maybe 2 scum left?

So if I'm interpreting Commander right, he's basically claiming a VT role. Not doing that much to make me want to reconsider my vote.

No he hasn't stated his abilities. Like he said minor abilities. I don't think that implies VT.

Honestly unvote Vote Anark Try to lynch Buffy is right out. She is good and there is no real question about that. She has dark moments, but nothing like your own inherit evil. You have a soul, that leaves you with remorse but it does not absolve the dangers you present two the town.

I'm not sure about Anark/Angel(us) and his town status. This post by edoc is either saving face for trying to get mandy lynched, or trying to save Commander the GF saved by sacrificing Nark, who again is questionable as far as status.


This post:

Guys, would Angelus come up innocent? Of course not, his character is anything but subtle. Nark has welcomed in an investigation on himself, I can't see a cop doing anything else tonight, besides possibly investigating mandy. Vote mandy for trying to lynch a likely powerful town ally.

Thank you! May I also comment on how Mandalorian has totally avoided the question I posed earlier about WHEN Angel was evil in Season 3. I have brought up many good points to my argument, called Mandy out as scum before anyone else thought he was doing anything wrong, and can prove that nowhere in Season 3 is Angel evil.

I even told you all my role color was green. Aren't ALL of those things pretty much proof?

seems almost an overt collaboration between Nark and edoc to keep Angel in the game, which would make sense if they had the chance to recruit him.

At this point I'm in favor of voting Nark. I'm also wary of Streaker:

I see no need for an extension, as deadlines can help to get a stalled game moving. It for one, inspired me to post. Just don't have much to say at the moment.

So you don't see a need for extension, when the game has no lead, and a deadline coming up? As for the 'inspiration' to post, I don't see it anywhere. Not having much to say is kinda scummy
Your post has inspired me to get this stalled game moving.

Unvote Vote Vio

Ironic since he's been flying under the radar the entire game, and didn't even say anything all of D2.

-Tails

[Anarkistsdream]

Fine... Let's do this easily...

Unvote
Vote:Anarkistsdream

There ya go. Now, let's see how fast this bandwagon jumps up.

[strike wolf]

I agree about streaker. I made a short case about him yesterday and I still think it holds fairly true though I am trying to reread in my spare time right now to get a better view of things.

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I like how more than half of mandalorian's wagon died consecutively
mandy-7- anark, commander, edoc, naxus, streaker, ga7, safari
Good scum ratio too, is it actually possible that the entire mafia hopped on the same wagon?
Rereading your case on p24 strike, I agree, from what we've seen it wouldn't hurt to put some pressure on him, especially seeing as we already have as much info as we're going to get with AD. Vote Streaker

[Streaker]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

[strike wolf]

That's not really true. I was calling you out for blatant bandwagoning more than I was calling you out for general inactivity. You're also being called out for being a hypocrit by voting vio for inactivity in a game where you have been less than active yourself.

[Streaker]

At that time I was hardly inactive, though. Can you define 'blatant wagoning'?

[strike wolf]

Only voting on wagons that had already been started by others. Admitting to wagon hopping, popping up out of nowhere to vote on a wagon after extended periods of absence, simply tailing on another player's vote without adding any input, abandoning your only case of the game to jump on the newest popular wagon....

[Streaker]

Only voting on wagons that had already been started by others. Admitting to wagon hopping, popping up out of nowhere to vote on a wagon after extended periods of absence, simply tailing on another player's vote without adding any input, abandoning your only case of the game to jump on the newest popular wagon....

I have been playing very poorly this game
There is little chance you will just back off when I say I'm an asset to town, right?

[Fircoal]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

I like how you pop up right after you're called out. Nice trying to lay low there ;3

Only voting on wagons that had already been started by others. Admitting to wagon hopping, popping up out of nowhere to vote on a wagon after extended periods of absence, simply tailing on another player's vote without adding any input, abandoning your only case of the game to jump on the newest popular wagon....

I have been playing very poorly this game
There is little chance you will just back off when I say I'm an asset to town, right?

No, because it's easy to say you're an asset to town when a) you're really not, and b) using it as a reason to not argue against the cases against you.

[strike wolf]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

I like how you pop up right after you're called out. Nice trying to lay low there ;3

Only voting on wagons that had already been started by others. Admitting to wagon hopping, popping up out of nowhere to vote on a wagon after extended periods of absence, simply tailing on another player's vote without adding any input, abandoning your only case of the game to jump on the newest popular wagon....

I have been playing very poorly this game
There is little chance you will just back off when I say I'm an asset to town, right?

No, because it's easy to say you're an asset to town when a) you're really not, and b) using it as a reason to not argue against the cases against you.

QFT

[Anarkistsdream]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

How do I make a far better case? In fact, you certainly make a better case for lynch then I do... You have to PLAY to be worthwhile in this game, and you don't play... Ergo, you aren't worthwhile...

[Streaker]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

How do I make a far better case? In fact, you certainly make a better case for lynch then I do... You have to PLAY to be worthwhile in this game, and you don't play... Ergo, you aren't worthwhile...

How I am worthwhile to be in this game? I'm certainly not nearly active enough, but I sure as hell have proven my worth by certain actions.

[mandalorian2298]

I like how more than half of mandalorian's wagon died consecutively
mandy-7- anark, commander, edoc, naxus, streaker, ga7, safari
Good scum ratio too, is it actually possible that the entire mafia hopped on the same wagon?
Rereading your case on p24 strike, I agree, from what we've seen it wouldn't hurt to put some pressure on him, especially seeing as we already have as much info as we're going to get with AD. Vote Streaker

Pissing off a Vig does not lead to a death of old age. Since Streak and Nark are pressuring each other enough, I'll vote Naxus for:

1. Submarrining,
2. Voting me based on very poor meta-gaming
3. Voting Commander only after it became apparent that he is going to hang (Ga7 voted right after Naxus, and we know he was Mafia).
4. To check Nark's claim that Naxus had gone no where (on the night when no Townie died ).

[Streaker]

Just finished rereading, and to be honest, I've got nothing (but Anark). Getting commander out was great, and both of his scummates have gone with him. If you read, you will find both edoc and ga7 backing up commander along the way.

The only decent lead I can think if, is still Anark:
-after Mandy claimed Buffy, he refused to unvote (I'm sure he had reasons to keep suspecting Mandy, but there WAS a better lead at the moment)
-attention shifts to the GF, and all of a sudden, Anark goes dark for a couple pages. It takes him until the very end to finally unvote, and vote commie, when it's apparent he will be lynched. (he might have been laying low, while ecod and ga7 back up the GF)

Then this happened:

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Edoc went to Mandy on night 3
Naxus didn't go anywhere on Night 4.

Those were my two results... I still can't believe ANY of you people think I'm scum. *roll*

Mandy wrote:

I guess Doc would have protected me from the block allowing me to kill Ga7, so you might be telling the truth. On the other hand, if you are lying, Naxus will either contradict you or Naxus is in fact your last scum buddy, which we will find out after NK you.

P.S. All this talk about NKing you shouldn't bother you if you are Town, since a Townie doesn't have to survive to win.

He provides us with a couple of night results, but he could easily know where edoc went, being scummies.

Anark responds again:

I just want to make sure that we always outnumber mafia and third party... Besides that, I'm good. I'm in enough other games, it doesn't bother me.

All of a sudden he shows a lack of caring in the game? A general statement that he wants town to win... It just doesn't sound right to me.

At that point, Tails makes a comment on how he thinks Anark is on his radar also.
Then, the attention steers towards me, and Anark is let off the hook for then.

...

But not really. He then votes himself. This reminded me on how the maffia GF just gave up, prior to being lynched.

By then, attention REALLY shifts my way, and I make it worse.
Still, if you look at Anark, it is my belief he makes a far better lead to persue.

Thoughts?

[strike wolf]

A few quick thoughts as I don't really have the time or energy to fully support any cases right now beyond what I've already stated with streaker:

1. I think Faith may be the last scum meaning nark could be innocent. The scene suggests that faith was feeling alone and isolated. Probably a stretch but a 4 player mafia in an 18 player game doesn't sound unlikely to me.
2. This would however create the dillema if edoc targeted mandy like nark claims than why wasn't buffy blocked from killing ga7? Is a doc"s protection extending to mafia role blocker legitimate? Or is it more likely edoc was busdriven or something with someone else.
3. I would like to hear from naxus to confirm or deny what nark has claimed.

[Anarkistsdream]

Sorry about the inactivity, but I'm picking up again. For any sake, that's all you got against me. Besides, with only my inactivity against me, nark would still make a far better case.

Vote nark

How do I make a far better case? In fact, you certainly make a better case for lynch then I do... You have to PLAY to be worthwhile in this game, and you don't play... Ergo, you aren't worthwhile...

How I am worthwhile to be in this game? I'm certainly not nearly active enough, but I sure as hell have proven my worth by certain actions.

Certain actions, but you leave them ambiguous??? Hahaha

Unvote
Vote: Streaker...

[Fircoal]

1. I think Faith may be the last scum meaning nark could be innocent. The scene suggests that faith was feeling alone and isolated. Probably a stretch but a 4 player mafia in an 18 player game doesn't sound unlikely to me.

Personally I think that if there are only 4 mafia members in an 18 player game that means either they have some pretty cool powers or that there are other baddies out there. So far we've only had Spike. Do you think that's good enough to merit there just being 4 scum?

[Streaker]

There's 2 ways this game can go now:

1) More votes on me, I claim, everyone unvotes, and starts voting someone else (I'm still thinking nark)

2) People actually believe me when I say I'm a good guy, and start voting whoever the hell they think is scum. There's just not enough activity going on (and yes, I'm fully aware of the irony in that statement).

My vote stays, for now.

Oh, and anark, that vote just smells like OMGUS...

[Iliad]

Vote count
anark-1- streaker
streaker-2-/, anark
naxus-1-mandy

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

[strike wolf]

Sorry for reduced activity I had a lot of things to complete. Anyways addressing Fircoal's comment, we did have a goon in the mafia, but they also had a role blocker, fairly useful, a godfather who was very likely bulletproof on top of the normal Godfather powers (100 days of Invulnerability in the show and referenced in the lynch scene), and Faith likely could show up town upon investigation (she spent most of the season on the town's side and it was only because of an intricate plan mostly featuring Buffy, Angel and ME! to deduce the truth of the matter) and one confirmed third party role dead, another all but confirmed in Night 2's scene (Anyanka) and possibly others, plus a couple of confirmed town roles that weren't very useful (framer (probably wasn't aware she was a framer in hindsight as there would be no reason to use her abilities as town if she knew without a secondary win condition which considering the character probably wouldn't be in town's favor as it would likely revolve around not being Buffy's biggest fan) and PGO which can be more harmful to town than mafia in many cases) So honestly I can see there being either 4-5 mafia depending on which I think can dramatically alter the way that we approach cases.

As to the actual cases, there's streaker and Naxus. I still haven't fully looked into Naxus but the argument Mandy brought forward regarding his actions seems fairly solid regarding what I read. However I still like Streaker for the previously mentioned reasons and adding in the fact that while he was inactive during my occasional glance to check who's on the forum during my more bored moments I noticed Streaker on pretty much every day but often not replying in this thread so it wasn't quite simply being inactive as much not responding or submarining which is by nature more suspicious.