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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:53 pm
by wolfpack0530
Chariot of Fire wrote:Just for the record......
"Conquer Club is not associated with Risk! or Hasbro in any way"
Thanks denominator for those good counter arguments of why this game doesn't totally replicate the board game we all know (I wouldn't have thought of those).
Let's take a scenario, e.g. Middle Ages, where I have 4 cards (one of which is my palace and might have to be traded if I win a 5th card of the wrong colour). Do you really expect me to win another card? Or should I just sit out the rest of the game and not attack anything?
Using Middle Ages is an extreme example, but it can apply to many other scenarios (e.g. one's own castle in Feudal, or a territory within a held bonus).
It's a crippling thing to have been awarded cards that are so detrimental that one doesn't want to cash them. Thus it's pretty cruel to deprive a player of the one means he has of staying competitive in the game - and that only means is by attacking and timing out.
Deliberate timing out to save one's skin and stay in the game (coz we all play to win I assume) certainly isn't as cheap as farming for points or medals.
while i agree with ljex sentiment, i feel that
this is an extremely valid point. what needs to be decided is, is this something that needs to be accepted and planned for prior to joining the game?
Surely if you got your own castle as your 2nd card, you made the choice to get two other cards, hence get 'stuck' in that situation. You therefore have an advantage over the poor sod who got his own castle as the 5th card and has no other choice than to bomb his own self.
Some would say, that it is your solemn duty to bomb your own self because it is the fair thing to do considering those that get that unluckiness on their 5th card, and dont get the choice of whether or not they should choose the loophole of timing out.
if you make timing out illegal, then it levels the playing field when comparing those two specific scenarios...... for instance.
just my two drunken pennies
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:47 pm
by stahrgazer
Card or timeout is like the double-turn that used to be part of one game setting.
Eventually CC saw they had to change things, but before they did: there were those who thought ensuring that double-turn was tacky at best, while others saw it as just part of the game's strategy.
But, CC established a precedent when they made that change they made, to eliminate the possibility for that questionable strategy; the precedent set is: players shouldn't try to bypass the intended flow of the game just because it's to their benefit.
Eventually, CC admin will recognize that the timing out without a card is like the double-turn: an opportunity that they should reprogram to eliminate.
Coding that asks at beginning of the turn, "Did player conquer something last turn? If yes go to: Did player take card? If yes, go to play. If no, go to take card, then play.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:49 pm
by chemefreak
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:24 am
by stahrgazer
Face it: your clan's just too good to fight lesser folk
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:30 am
by chemefreak
stahrgazer wrote:
Face it: your clan's just too good to fight lesser folk
Mmm....
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:01 pm
by jpeter15
Thats tough, but not as tough as Grim Reaper's path to the championship.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:18 pm
by chemefreak
jpeter15 wrote:
Thats tough, but not as tough as Grim Reaper's path to the championship.
Wow. Deep. I like it. I will shut up.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:41 pm
by Chuuuuck
With so many wars going on, it is tough to make it through them all. Any updates on how some of the wars are looking?
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 pm
by Electricksabers
Chuuuuck wrote:With so many wars going on, it is tough to make it through them all. Any updates on how some of the wars are looking?
West Virginia is up by 5 over Clemson with 15:00 left in the second half... Oh wait sorry you didn't mean basketball
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:56 pm
by danryan
Too early to say I'd guess. In about a week a clearer picture will emerge.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:58 pm
by stahrgazer
Chuuuuck wrote:With so many wars going on, it is tough to make it through them all. Any updates on how some of the wars are looking?
LoW took first blood and with that game cleared, we were able to send the Tiebreaker quads for OSA to fill when they're ready. Most of the other battles look like they could still go either way.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:36 pm
by amazzony
Nothing interesting in G1 vs DYN yet. All quads are active and most games seem more or less equal right now.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:31 am
by Chuuuuck
The 2nd post has been updated with links to all the wars to help with easy navigation later.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:03 pm
by Qwert
WG leads against T4C, little news from other competition
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:23 pm
by nagerous
qwert wrote:WG leads against T4C, little news from other competition
Wrong tourny bro.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:35 pm
by Chuuuuck
He did say a little news from other competition. I presume because I asked for updates.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:06 pm
by laughingcavalier
Tsm took the first win against T4c - a few more results due soon, going both ways.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:39 pm
by stahrgazer
stahrgazer wrote:Update,
LoW v OSA:
Four games complete, four Legends of War victories.
Game 8660111 Battle for Iraq Triples - No Spoils, Chained, Foggy - LoW Win
CrazyIrishman/bfunny27/stahrgazer
Game 8665171 England - Escalating, Chained, Sunny - LoW Win
fairman/Crazyirishman/Condor
Game 8681349 Africa - Escalating, Chained, Sunny - LoW Win
WidowMakers/dcc1220/Crazyirishman
Game 8681361 Middle Ages - Flat, Chained, Fog - LoW Win
Condor/Hamanu/bfunny27/DBandit70
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:59 pm
by Chuuuuck
This thread always gets slow when challenges get under way. Maybe I should make periodic messages and intriguing questions to keep people coming here and discussing
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:07 am
by Rodion
Chuuuuck wrote:This thread always gets slow when challenges get under way. Maybe I should make periodic messages and intriguing questions to keep people coming here and discussing
Maybe some "predict the winners" challenge?
Or making spreads for every game and making a challenge to see who gets more results right ("cover the spread" or "not cover the spread"). Or just ask people to pick results (not only winner, but number of games won) and see who got closer after the Cup is over?
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:46 am
by MichelSableheart
That only works before challenges actually start, though. It doesn't create more discussion during challenges.
Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:49 pm
by Rodion
Page 16 quote.
Chuuuuck wrote:I will be here, and in the times I get busy someone else from Empire will be checking in.
Is that changed in any level since you're now part of another clan?
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:09 am
by Chuuuuck
I was part of Empire for a long time and am very close with those guys. I think one of them will probably still help if I get busy, most likely
TheSpaceCowboy. But I may recruit some help from a level minded person in TOFU if I need it.
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:27 am
by Namor
Chuuuuck wrote:... But I may recruit some help from a level minded person in TOFU if I need it.
You'll be able to find one then?
Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:17 pm
by Culs De Sac
Legion has secured victory over GR.. Can you update the bracket
