Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[thehippo8]

@Leehar ... seriously? No, I'm not scum - but then I said that.

Another travel day - can't post now until tomorrow RT.

[Leehar]

With regards to the flavour spec (or role spec?) that you're doing sg, I'd have to say you're on the wrong track...

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

ShieldGenerator7-L1 (NG1, CLEVER, Hippo, gordon)
TheHippo8-L3 (SG7, Leehar)

[shieldgenerator7]

With regards to the flavour spec (or role spec?) that you're doing sg, I'd have to say you're on the wrong track...

It's just something that I noticed. It doesn't mean it's completely accurate or that spiderman and nightcrawler CAN"T be in the game, but it sure does make it look that way.

For what reason do you think I'm "on the wrong track" with regards to this argument?

[thehippo8]

With regards to the flavour spec (or role spec?) that you're doing sg, I'd have to say you're on the wrong track...

It's just something that I noticed. It doesn't mean it's completely accurate or that spiderman and nightcrawler CAN"T be in the game, but it sure does make it look that way.

For what reason do you think I'm "on the wrong track" with regards to this argument?

This makes no sense. In one breath you acknowledge nightcrawler is town yet in the other you continuye to vote for me. IMHO your vote is just an IMGUS. I was ignoring it as irrelevant. But you switch from IMGUS to an attempt at creating a case based on thin air. I'm nightcrawler, I'm in the game, I'm not scum!! As for Leehar's vots, that's just rediculously scummy IMO, so FOS Leehar. Perhap, Leehar you can explain why you don't vote for SG7? Maybe it's a bit hard to see your buddy go?

Spoiler

About to head to the airport so it'll be a few hours before I see your responses

[Some7hingCLEVER]

With regards to the flavour spec (or role spec?) that you're doing sg, I'd have to say you're on the wrong track...

It's just something that I noticed. It doesn't mean it's completely accurate or that spiderman and nightcrawler CAN"T be in the game, but it sure does make it look that way.

For what reason do you think I'm "on the wrong track" with regards to this argument?

This makes no sense. In one breath you acknowledge nightcrawler is town yet in the other you continuye to vote for me. IMHO your vote is just an IMGUS. I was ignoring it as irrelevant. But you switch from IMGUS to an attempt at creating a case based on thin air. I'm nightcrawler, I'm in the game, I'm not scum!! As for Leehar's vots, that's just rediculously scummy IMO, so FOS Leehar. Perhap, Leehar you can explain why you don't vote for SG7? Maybe it's a bit hard to see your buddy go?

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About to head to the airport so it'll be a few hours before I see your responses

i love how you always end with a witty coment lol

[shieldgenerator7]

Hippo, I'm under the impression that Nightcrawler is your fakelclaim.

I'm nightcrawler, I'm in the game, I'm not scum!!

This part sounds very desperate. "Don't lynch me! I'm town!" If you were truly town, would you seriously need to post this? And then you OMGUS (not IMGUS ) FOS leehar for voting you, ad tell him his vote should be on me. The whole bottom part of your last post seems very desperate, beginning with the second line. Why are you so anxious?

[Leehar]

@hippo, because right now I have no reason to believe Wanderer seems unbelievable, specially since 3rd parties were able to validate that a top hat wearing person in black and white does actually exist.
It seemed a bit of a stretch to fakeclaim could be that intricate. A person would seemingly be more inclined to go for a more discernibly recognisable hero.

I'm however not opposed to sg getting lynched, because I feel he may still be able to give us information in death even if he didn't help much in life.

ie again, if sg is scum, hippo should be townie and / scum; or if he's townie, hippo is scum and / is confirmed townie (In my view, and no one has mentioned my logic to be faulty so far.)
Right now however, I feel uncomfortable hammering someone who I think is town.

With regards to voting you hippo, it goes back to the tracker counter-claims. Someone is obviously lying, and I'm more comfortable believing it's you rather then /.
I also feel lynching you would more quickly resolve it, rather then the 2 step confirming process of the trackers tracking each other, which I really doubt will succeed.
This way, if you flip tracker in death, we'll know / was lying and is scum. And if you and sg7 were the only ones to visit betiko, then sg7 would be scum to rights as well.
And if you flip scum, then I'm glad I helped catch one of you.

Again, This only works if you 2 were the only visitors to betiko, so I ask NEW GUY1 to confirm that was the case! (and that I read incorrectly earlier hearing there were 3 visitors!)

[shieldgenerator7]

Again, This only works if you 2 were the only visitors to betiko, so I ask NEW GUY1 to confirm that was the case! (and that I read incorrectly earlier hearing there were 3 visitors!)

You probably heard there were 3 because that includes NG1. NG1, Hippo, SG7 visited betiko last night. NG1 said only 2 did because obviously he'd have to visit betiko to get those results and listing himself would be kind of redundant.

-SG7 ( )

[Leehar]

Nah, I actually confused it because of the whole 'someone must be confirmed + the confirmer' but there was no confirmer because / didn't track him

[new guy1]

I confirm that hippo and SG7 were the only ones besides me to visit betiko... Havent refreshed this page in a while so IDK how many times I will be fastposted but I will ignore them and make another post after I read that.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

honestly i dont know who killed betiko. only sg7 and hippo do and there not gonna just come out and say it. so really where not gonna catch them unless we guess. cause right now all you guys are doing is arguing back and forth and its honestly getting us nowhere closer to finding scum. now only one person has not voted and i think thats / so i kinda want him to come out and give his opinion. if he believes its sg7 then he can throw the hammer. but where at a stale mate if he chooses hippo as scummier because that will leave at l-1 on both of them. at that point we are probably screwed unless one of us changes our minds and votes the other. and that wont happen cause that person will be on the hot seat the next day so if / chooses sg7 great we can finally move on. but if he picks hippo we will have to come up with a solution to choose who to choose. so if anyone has any idea on how we would choose i think it would be a good idea to say it.

or we can make a pros and cons list of each person

[shieldgenerator7]

or we can make a pros and cons list of each person

Ok, here you go, Pros and Cons of keeping the player alive:

SG7:
PROS:
A wanderer as defined on the D&D site can be very powerful and very useful for town
I am not counterclaimed
It has been speculated that I could not possibly have made up this claim as a fakeclaim
Posts regularly with valuable content
CONS:
The same D&D wanderer could be very harmful to town, depending on how or who activates me
Acts scummy from time to time

Hippo:
PROS:
Tracker can help track killers, help investigate
Can vote
CONS:
Not confirmed, no night actions confirm his role
Counterclaimed by /
Skims
His name claim doesn't fit as well with other name claims because it seems to be well-known

I might have forgotten some things in there, and ovbiously it's biased towards SG7, because I'm SG7. I bet if hippo made one it'd also be biased towards him. I'd also think that /'s list would also be biased towards me, because hippo is counterclaiming him.

ANyway, make your decision. Choose wisely.

-SG7 ( )

[Some7hingCLEVER]

or we can make a pros and cons list of each person

Ok, here you go, Pros and Cons of keeping the player alive:

SG7:
PROS:
A wanderer as defined on the D&D site can be very powerful and very useful for town
I am not counterclaimed
It has been speculated that I could not possibly have made up this claim as a fakeclaim
Posts regularly with valuable content
CONS:
The same D&D wanderer could be very harmful to town, depending on how or who activates me
Acts scummy from time to time

Hippo:
PROS:
Tracker can help track killers, help investigate
Can vote
CONS:
Not confirmed, no night actions confirm his role
Counterclaimed by /
Skims
His name claim doesn't fit as well with other name claims because it seems to be well-known

I might have forgotten some things in there, and ovbiously it's biased towards SG7, because I'm SG7. I bet if hippo made one it'd also be biased towards him. I'd also think that /'s list would also be biased towards me, because hippo is counterclaiming him.

ANyway, make your decision. Choose wisely.

-SG7 ( )

ya CHOOSE WISELY lol no pressure. but i agree he may be biased. honestly idk why im voting for sg7 anymore unvote vote hippo i just realized if hippo dies it would give us more info ((if he was tracker or not ..if / is lieng or confirmed town or if sg7 is the killer or not) so ya im gonna vote him. dont know why i didnt realize that before

[/]

now only one person has not voted and i think thats / so i kinda want him to come out and give his opinion. /quote]

me and skill, I don't know, I am content to lynch either one really, this game's kind of screwy, I can't really guess what would or would not be a valid claim, so the fact alone that they are the only ones who visited the killed person is pretty good, I have a few other things that lean me toward voting shield though

1.thinking he would be activated by betiko makes no sense, why would commissioner Gordon randomly give people superpowers?
2.Is definitely not town, less of a potential for loss
3.was saved day one by the doctor getting murdered
4.(the worst part now that I've gotten a good look at that page) shield seems to claim that the page is correct, but when I look at the bottom of the page it's a freaking homebrew role! it's not a D&D role, it's a half finished fanfiction of what a possible D&D role could be that has the quoted status of "Done-ish", if crazy really put in a generic role of a made up role for a unplayed home-brew of a game, then titled it "Superhero Mafia" then I beg him, please never ever make a themed game again.


this cinches it for me I would hammer if I wasn't just fastposted by an unvote, but I'll Vote shield

[shieldgenerator7]

Homebrew?! I don't play D&D so I wouldn't have known. The page does have the same pic as in my role PM, so I don't see why not. Maybe it's been played with before and everything's there and it's just a small piece that's missing from the webpage, or maybe milkshake's seen it before. Or maybe my role really is based on DC/Marvel. It's hard to tell.

BTW, what do you have against homebrew roles?

[thehippo8]

Funny thing is that ? may even be a real tracker, I don't know! All I know is that I'm a tracker. I keep saying that I'm not scum (go back and read, I've said it multiple times). To be clear (and this probably sorts things out for those who were confused), I'm actually a third party. I am masoned with another third party, but I don't think it's fair to say who. Don't bother asking because I'm not telling!! So, it is possible that / could be a town tracker after all. I don't think that SG7 has any idea what he is, but I suggest that he's probably third party also. Probably mafia orientated given his powers are so uncontrollable. As to clever's su7ggestion that / and I could in any way say who did the killing, that's a misunderstanding of the tracker role. All we can do is say where people went, not waht they did. But both / and I are pointing at SG7 so I can't understand what the problem is, other than that I didn't tell you lot that I was third party. I can also confirm that I win when town wins, so that makes me town orientated - albiet not actually town. I have no other powers than being a tracker, but my mason buddy has a few powers (again don't ask me to tell you who it is!! - oh, duh, I can confirm it's not /!!)

[thehippo8]

EBWOP

Funny thing is that / may even be a real tracker, I don't know! All I know is that I'm a tracker. I keep saying that I'm not scum (go back and read, I've said it multiple times). To be clear (and this probably sorts things out for those who were confused), I'm actually a third party. I am masoned with another third party, but I don't think it's fair to say who. Don't bother asking because I'm not telling!! So, it is possible that / could be a town tracker after all. I don't think that SG7 has any idea what he is, but I suggest that he's probably third party also. Probably mafia orientated given his powers are so uncontrollable. As to clever's suggestion that / and I could in any way say who did the killing, that's a misunderstanding of the tracker role. All we can do is say where people went, not waht they did. But both / and I are pointing at SG7 so I can't understand what the problem is, other than that I didn't tell you lot that I was third party. I can also confirm that I win when town wins, so that makes me town orientated - albiet not actually town. I have no other powers than being a tracker, but my mason buddy has a few powers (again don't ask me to tell you who it is!! - oh, duh, I can confirm it's not /!!)

A little frazzled from flying, but back on terra firma now!!

[/]

hmmm, very odd, nightcrawler as a thrid party? This would mean he can win with mafia, suggesting his partner could be an "evil" type character as nightcrawler normally would not switch to evil, if hippo is to be believed, can anyone guess what character it would be? Or Hippo, could you at least say your pantner's role name?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ok / chose sg7
now why did he do that? i know he has good reasons for it but there is one reason that should top them all...the fact that hippo counter claimed him as a tracker. now the only reason i can see you picking shield is well... if you fake claimed tracker, i mean just think about it..if your really the tracker and you were counter claimed by hippo then why would you not want him dead? maybe because your fake claiming tracker and he is the real one and if he shows up dead and shows up tracker then you are totally screwed. so the only reason i see you voting shield is to protect yourself..but me being me i purposely set that question up to see how you responded so for that unvote vote /

fastposted x2
sorry this post was sitting in the queu for like two hours while we played RT mafia

[Some7hingCLEVER]

so now your third party either way 2 trackers and watcher that seems a little much for a game this small and it was said it was even? my belief is one of you is lieng and i still think / because he didnt know he was a third party...so my post above is as stands

[/]

ok / chose sg7
now why did he do that? i know he has good reasons for it but there is one reason that should top them all...the fact that hippo counter claimed him as a tracker. now the only reason i can see you picking shield is well... if you fake claimed tracker, i mean just think about it..if your really the tracker and you were counter claimed by hippo then why would you not want him dead? maybe because your fake claiming tracker and he is the real one and if he shows up dead and shows up tracker then you are totally screwed. so the only reason i see you voting shield is to protect yourself..but me being me i purposely set that question up to see how you responded so for that unvote vote /

fastposted x2
sorry this post was sitting in the queu for like two hours while we played RT mafia

I gave my reasons for my vote, it's very simple, lynch the one more likely to be scum. Now, in your theory, I counterclaimed hippo because...? In all possibility hippo could have been lynched the day I counterclaimed him, leaving me to be picked off afterwards, hardly a pragmatic move just to get rid of a tracker.

[skillfusniper33]

ok / chose sg7
now why did he do that? i know he has good reasons for it but there is one reason that should top them all...the fact that hippo counter claimed him as a tracker. now the only reason i can see you picking shield is well... if you fake claimed tracker, i mean just think about it..if your really the tracker and you were counter claimed by hippo then why would you not want him dead? maybe because your fake claiming tracker and he is the real one and if he shows up dead and shows up tracker then you are totally screwed. so the only reason i see you voting shield is to protect yourself..but me being me i purposely set that question up to see how you responded so for that unvote vote /

fastposted x2
sorry this post was sitting in the queu for like two hours while we played RT mafia

First of all / counterclaimed hippo. And your second post at that is just a little weirder, or maybe I am just tired, and don't understand it.

I have been waiting for a little while to send in my vote because I wanted to make sure we got the trackers set straight and then we could actually prove both were trackers

Vote SG7 I had all intentions of voting him for the last 24 hours or so, but this is the first time I was able to get on and do it.

Fastposted by /

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ok / chose sg7
now why did he do that? i know he has good reasons for it but there is one reason that should top them all...the fact that hippo counter claimed him as a tracker. now the only reason i can see you picking shield is well... if you fake claimed tracker, i mean just think about it..if your really the tracker and you were counter claimed by hippo then why would you not want him dead? maybe because your fake claiming tracker and he is the real one and if he shows up dead and shows up tracker then you are totally screwed. so the only reason i see you voting shield is to protect yourself..but me being me i purposely set that question up to see how you responded so for that unvote vote /

fastposted x2
sorry this post was sitting in the queu for like two hours while we played RT mafia

I gave my reasons for my vote, it's very simple, lynch the one more likely to be scum. Now, in your theory, I counterclaimed hippo because...? In all possibility hippo could have been lynched the day I counterclaimed him, leaving me to be picked off afterwards, hardly a pragmatic move just to get rid of a tracker.

more likely to be scum??
YOU COUNTERCLAIMED HIM who in the world fake claims when there not in some way shape of form scum? that was my point. and the point that he wasnt lynched is a good one. why was he not lynched? thats what was pointed out several times that day but yet you two both just ignored it so honestly i would like to know why it was ignored. if you can give me a good reason then ill drop it otherwise my vote stands

fastposted i guess he was just hammered

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

ShieldGenerator7-L-1 (NG1, CLEVER, Hippo, gordon, /, skillful)
TheHippo8-L3 (SG7, Leehar)
/-L4 (clever)

SG7 has been lynched, scene soon, hopefully.