Rolegift Mafia 2 Endgame: Give 'til it Hurts

[jak111]

Oh, so you put blind faith in your own investigation when it suits you, but when it is against you you're totally against it. I wonder why?

While Yomiel makes sense 1% of the time and the other 99% of the time he's... Yomiel. His result shows that the cop is paranoid/insane. Which would make your results useless. (sorry bud) + you have my track which shows Yomiel went no where.

As for Spiesr, the role of the person is not important, but who it is and whether they're innocent or not is something we need.

[Rodion]

There are around 10 gifts missing and 7 unclaimed. We might be able to have all 19 gifts catalogued and THEN have a great starting point. If there are any gifts uncatalogued after all claims are in, we might still be able to achieve that through Spiesr/Soundman.

We had 15 different items being given/used last cycle and we know Jonty/PMC's.

The other 13 are:
doctor (pet leech)
cop (magic 8-ball)
rolecop (barcode scanner)
doublevote (sockpuppet)
hider (box of candies)
doubler (large piece of fabric)
bulletproof (cooking pot)
vigilante (book of bad poetry)
commuter (???)
4 uncatalogued

[Yomiel]

I make sense more than people want to believe.

[spiesr]

As for Spiesr, the role of the person is not important, but who it is and whether they're innocent or not is something we need.

How am I supposed to determine if someone is scum just by knowing their gift Jak?

[Yomiel]

You never know what might reveal an unexpected clue.

[soundman]

I got the same gift as I did yesterday and can confirm that Jak is town. I won't reveal what he gifts.

[Yomiel]

What item is your gift?

And why can you confirm Jak is Town?

[soundman]

What item is your gift?

And why can you confirm Jak is Town?

Hmm... Thought that would be obvious from previous comments today. It's a scanner.

I can confirm Jak as town because of his gift. He's at least 99% town. Mafia almost never have that role.

[spiesr]

Hmm... Thought that would be obvious from previous comments today. It's a scanner.

I can confirm Jak as town because of his gift. He's at least 99% town. Mafia almost never have that role.

Oh yeah, doubler duh. Anyhow, I see no reason that scum couldn't have a tracker gifter in this game. That said, the town investigation on jak makes me think he is town...

[everywhere116]

Checking in. The only gift I got last night was the book and yes, I did use it on jonty. After I reread the day, I did not like how he constantly pushed for LSU's lynch, and I thought that could easily have been a mafioso trying to encourage the town to lynch someone off of an incorrect investigation. I see now that's....not the case.

[everywhere116]

/, quick question, does a lynched player's gift still go through to the next night, or does it disappear when he or she dies?

[jak111]

Checking in. The only gift I got last night was the book and yes, I did use it on jonty. After I reread the day, I did not like how he constantly pushed for LSU's lynch, and I thought that could easily have been a mafioso trying to encourage the town to lynch someone off of an incorrect investigation. I see now that's....not the case.

I feel mind fucked... I definitely didn't send it to you... Whatever my gift is, keep it quiet Soundman, I'll try to use it to the best of my ability >.<

[Yomiel]

I'm noticing some odd stuff.

Jak claims to have tracked Spiesr and is thus sure he is innocent. Jak claims to have gifted Spiesr and believes he gave him the killing book. Spiesr says he did not get it, then seems to contradict himself when he states he believes the investigation makes Jak Town. Then, Jak asks Spiesr not to say what his gift is, even though he seemingly already knows. It's like they are part of a Team...

[spiesr]

I feel mind fucked... I definitely didn't send it to you... Whatever my gift is, keep it quiet Soundman, I'll try to use it to the best of my ability >.<

It seems pmc/pcm strikes again.

Checking in. The only gift I got last night was the book and yes, I did use it on jonty. After I reread the day, I did not like how he constantly pushed for LSU's lynch, and I thought that could easily have been a mafioso trying to encourage the town to lynch someone off of an incorrect investigation. I see now that's....not the case.

I guess we have to decide now if we believe this, or of we think he was scum and quite happy to use the second kill, and that this is just his excuse.
No matter what we decide on that issue, the vig needs to be used tonight barring extreme circumstance. It doesn't matter if this is accomplished by the gifter (who isn't Jak) not sending it out, or by the recipient not using it. We simply don't have to room to risk using it anymore, especially if we end up mislynching today.

[Yomiel]

Are you contradicting yourself again, or was that a typo?

And you completely ignore what I say about you and Jak. I'm watching you, Spiesr.

[spiesr]

No matter what we decide on that issue, the vig needs to NOT be used tonight barring extreme circumstance. It doesn't matter if this is accomplished by the gifter (who isn't Jak) not sending it out, or by the recipient not using it. We simply don't have to room to risk using it anymore, especially if we end up mislynching today.

EBWOP

Are you contradicting yourself again, or was that a typo?

And you completely ignore what I say about you and Jak. I'm watching you, Spiesr.

TYPO indeed. And I just don't see any merit to what you said about me and Jak. It wasn't worth addressing.

[Yomiel]

I might vote you.O_o Jak tracking you is not enough to make me think you're innocent, and your actions and words have been kind of suspicious to me.

[Hensow]

commuter (???)

it is a blanket I got it agian.

[Rodion]

Owe claims:

Milkshake (from last day)
pancakemix
TA1LGUNN3R
Djfireside
thechuck51

Still 4 uncatalogued items.

[spiesr]

Rodion, as the only recipient of the hider role can you confirm whether or not you would have been killed by hiding behind a scum?

[Yomiel]

Wish the missing players would show up already.

[Rodion]

Rodion, as the only recipient of the hider role can you confirm whether or not you would have been killed by hiding behind a scum?

Back in N1, / mentioned I'd only die if my target died.

[Yomiel]

That tells us chuck and DJ are not Mafia, most likely.

[spiesr]

Rodion, as the only recipient of the hider role can you confirm whether or not you would have been killed by hiding behind a scum?

Back in N1, / mentioned I'd only die if my target died.

That tells us chuck and DJ are not Mafia, most likely.

Actually, it fails to tell us that. The hider can safely hide behind a scum, so it tells us nothing about their alignment.

[Yomiel]

That's weird.O_o I could have sworn he'd said something else. Well, then we're back to waiting for those people to claim.