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DiM wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I love it when they look up to see if the ref fell for it or not. Someting they never do if they're in actual pain.


crap like this ruins football. imho they should be very generous with fines and suspensions based on video evidence even after the game is over.
you cheated and got a penalty? here's 50% of your wage as fine and a 5 match suspension.

or we could get video evidence during the match so that the ref can take a 10 second break and see if it was a dive or a foul.

stopping cheaters can actually be very easy but fifa doesn't really care.
The problem with video evidence during the match that it would be taken or done upon request made by coaches.. This could lead a coach like Mourinho to protest over everything and make too many requests in a tight game. You wouldn't enjoy a match that stops every 5 minutes to look at a video.

One good solution is to limit the requests.
and there you have it. each coach has a maximum of 5 video-evidence calls per game. heck, i think even 3 should be more than enough but let's go with 5.

usually it should take anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds to look at a video and make a decision so that will mean max 5 minutes per game if all calls are used by both coaches. heck, let's say 10 minutes per game. i'd rather spend 10 minutes watching replays but have correct decisions than get angry when blatant mistakes are made.
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DiM wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
DiM wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I love it when they look up to see if the ref fell for it or not. Someting they never do if they're in actual pain.


crap like this ruins football. imho they should be very generous with fines and suspensions based on video evidence even after the game is over.
you cheated and got a penalty? here's 50% of your wage as fine and a 5 match suspension.

or we could get video evidence during the match so that the ref can take a 10 second break and see if it was a dive or a foul.

stopping cheaters can actually be very easy but fifa doesn't really care.
The problem with video evidence during the match that it would be taken or done upon request made by coaches.. This could lead a coach like Mourinho to protest over everything and make too many requests in a tight game. You wouldn't enjoy a match that stops every 5 minutes to look at a video.

One good solution is to limit the requests.
and there you have it. each coach has a maximum of 5 video-evidence calls per game. heck, i think even 3 should be more than enough but let's go with 5.

usually it should take anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds to look at a video and make a decision so that will mean max 5 minutes per game if all calls are used by both coaches. heck, let's say 10 minutes per game. i'd rather spend 10 minutes watching replays but have correct decisions than get angry when blatant mistakes are made.
People can always abuse and protest anything... I suppose referees would discuss it in front of a special screen to be installed in stadiums for this purpose. Some people may start crying and pointing out that the broadcasting director of a given match wasn't fair enough to replay a clip at the best and clearest way possible. In this case, you would find yourself as FIFA/UEFA forced to convince those dicks that directors are as fair and neutral as referees!

These are what we call "currently hidden" problems and challenges that will arise once a new rule is made.

However, it still feels there is too much bureaucracy in FIFA/UEFA as if we are in a third world country with too much delay and corruption around. The vanishing spray is a good example. I was seen in Copa America 2011(I saw it few years earlier in Argentina League), and it took FIFA 3 years to adopt it... not sure how long UEFA needs to accept an invention made by a South American country.
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It would also be good for the ref to have a microphone like they do in rugby.

1. You can hear his reasoning for decisions.

2. It would rapidly decrease the amount of abuse players give referees because they don't want to damage their reputation.
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That was great :D
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Look at the hot chick with the kid!!!
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0-0 tie for Mexico versus Brazil is a victory for Mexico. All those lucky goal keeper blocks are from the good fortune of wearing Charlie Brown uniforms. Lol
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Great game at the moment, Australia playing well. 1-1 at half time..could we see the all-time upset? Go Aussie's
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nietzsche wrote:
oVo wrote:Several of the Brazil assaults looked like sure goals
and Ochoa was just in the right spot.

That happens to him a lot. "He just happened to be there" many detractors say. (He has many detractors in Mexico because he used to play to the most hated team of the league).

I don't think it's luck.
I agree, being in position to make the play
is not luck at all.

Holland seems to play better in the rain.
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wowow, did not imagine Aussie beating Netherlands
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Wow, this whole "response goal" thing is crazy.
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Great game, so exciting..Holland wins and goes through to the next round =D>
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universalchiro wrote:Anyone see Algerian player #22 take a total flop at the 50' mark? He pretended to get hit in the mouth, he rolled in agony. For 3-5 minutes while he was rolling in agony covering his mouth, the camera kept showing that he never got touched. Lol . They should've carded him for faking.
When he finally got up, he didn't have a mark on him.
My favorite is when a player is falling down or rolling around in pain and then they point to the referee asking for a call.
This could easily be solved if FIFA would sanction these players after the game, with the help of video.

But as betiko told you, it kind of hurts, being hit on the legs where there's no much muscle of fat. The reason they keep doing it is because it works.

Vazquez was booked today on a fault over Neymar, if you pay attention Neymar sold it well, it was not worthy of a booking.
I know that it can hurt. In fact, the only time I've ever missed time in sports is when I had a microfracture in my ankle after a soccer game. But I just can't stand when they roll around on the ground for 20 seconds then as soon as the free kick is awarded they're up and running. Swallow the fucking pain. If anyone did that in the NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL, they would get made fun of to no end. Lebron was legitimately injured in the Finals two weeks ago and STILL got shit.

Not to mention that diving is essentially in the rulebook now. At least in the US we make fun of divers to no end. And honestly that's why I think soccer won't really ever take off in the US, because (ignorant) Americans who've never played soccer think its for pussies.
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Hup Holland Hup!

I said it :D
Great game, suspense was intense. Thank you, Aussies.
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Army of GOD wrote: I know that it can hurt. In fact, the only time I've ever missed time in sports is when I had a microfracture in my ankle after a soccer game. But I just can't stand when they roll around on the ground for 20 seconds then as soon as the free kick is awarded they're up and running. Swallow the fucking pain. If anyone did that in the NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL, they would get made fun of to no end. Lebron was legitimately injured in the Finals two weeks ago and STILL got shit.

Not to mention that diving is essentially in the rulebook now. At least in the US we make fun of divers to no end. And honestly that's why I think soccer won't really ever take off in the US, because (ignorant) Americans who've never played soccer think its for pussies.

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If Spain doesn't advance, would they be the first country with the top ranking in the world to not advance out of the group stage?
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And another goal. Spain fucking sucks.
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Sweet revenge...
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I'd like to see more non-European teams making it out of group, so go Chile.


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Final nail in the coffin of Tiki Taka.


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The Netherlands and Chile to the 1/8th finals!
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this happened to italy after they won 2010 the world cup,
it happened to france, and now it happened to spain,
glad i dont bet, i would have lost alot of money,
but globally i think the spanish have won alot of money tonight :)
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AslanTheKing wrote:this happened to italy after they won 2010 the world cup,
it happened to france, and now it happened to spain,
glad i dont bet, i would have lost alot of money,
but globally i think the spanish have won alot of money tonight :)
bye spain
Everyone expected Italy to drop off though. Spain getting kilt is completely unexpected.
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GO CAMERUN!

If Camerun wins today Mexico is practically qualified.
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Cameroon you twat
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shit.... i was about to bet on croatia... now it's too late.

i did some ok bets for the 2 previous game, still going up!
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