Streaker's Second Mafia - Endgame - Employees win!

[virus90]

sorry for being this inactive. started internships and its killing me. if someone wants to replace me im ok with that cause i dont think this is gonna change anytime soon.

must say that i didnt even carefully read all the posts but what strikes me at first glance is that both Ib and dd might be blocked, which i think is kind of strange.
my vote would still be with the people i named last day.. although i was wrong about crasp the others still have the biggest chance to be scum i think

[dd515087]

Apparently my check gives the alignment for the player. I feel as if I was either blocked both nights... Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did. OPTION 2: "No result" means they are part of the management. I was given the example that if I checked someone it would come back as "Employee", not "Employee or Management". Idk how far to take that as evidence for us, but virus/IB should definitely be looked in to.

[dd515087]

VOTE VIRUS

So yeah we should have got him yesterday.

[HotShot53]

unvote

Virus was at L-1 with the ???? vote.... so I put him back at L-2. Time to claim, and see what's up and I'll decide if the vote should go back on you or not.

[Iron Butterfly]

Apparently my check gives the alignment for the player. I feel as if I was either blocked both nights... Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did. OPTION 2: "No result" means they are part of the management. I was given the example that if I checked someone it would come back as "Employee", not "Employee or Management". Idk how far to take that as evidence for us, but virus/IB should definitely be looked in to.

Your reply makes absolutely no sense.

" I feel as if I was either blocked both nights..."

That is a non statement. Either implies two choices. BUT if you meant, "I feel I was blocked both nights" It makes even less sense as you go on to say,,,

"Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did"...what does one have to do with the other? Knowing what your role is and how it works has absolutely no bearing on my cop investigation night one.

Option 2 implies that you were NOT blocked and by your reasoning "no result means we are management" You are implying we are both mafia/management then because we came back with no result instead of Employee.

Now when I did my cop investigation night one my investigation came back "Legionnaire is an employee" I know my alignment as employee so you were blocked or your full of crap.

The other problem I am having is I can think of no other explanation on why I could not open my gift other then I was blocked. Two mafia blockers?I can understand DD being blocked by Town night one but why night 2? It does not make sense.

[StorrZerg]

gifter might be able to clarify the gifting situation

lets lynch hotshot

[StorrZerg]

mod please poke inactives

[charm]

unvote

Virus was at L-1 with the ???? vote.... so I put him back at L-2. Time to claim, and see what's up and I'll decide if the vote should go back on you or not.

No he wasn't! It takes 5 to lynch.

There was you
the question marks
me
DD took him to level 1!
You just saved him from a lynch - I think that is mighty scummy!

Now, Virus has said he might be too busy! So, either he claims, we lynch him or we start the vote count on HotShot to see if he might be scum. I don;t care which way we go, but either you guys start manning up or I'm going to get out my pencil and start really ranting.

[Iron Butterfly]

Why the hurry to lynch without a claim??

[HotShot53]

unvote

Virus was at L-1 with the ???? vote.... so I put him back at L-2. Time to claim, and see what's up and I'll decide if the vote should go back on you or not.

No he wasn't! It takes 5 to lynch.

There was you
the question marks
me
DD took him to level 1!
You just saved him from a lynch - I think that is mighty scummy!

Now, Virus has said he might be too busy! So, either he claims, we lynch him or we start the vote count on HotShot to see if he might be scum. I don;t care which way we go, but either you guys start manning up or I'm going to get out my pencil and start really ranting.

Exactly, you, me, ???? & DD = 4 votes, 5 = lynch, so he was at L-1. I unvoted to give him a chance to claim, we'll see what he claims to decide to lynch or not. If he doesn't claim, I will re-vote him and encourage his lynching.

[charm]

Ok, but I doubt we will hear from him.
We should of had a lynch on Day 2 - that is why I want a lynch now - this is just delaying the inevitable.
Plus it's nice to have the weekend free. Employees don't work weekends without overtime and I'm sure management doesn't intend to pay us overtime or we would have heard about it.

I also find it interesting that MTam is still so quiet. What is up with that?
Earth to Tambo - come back to planet Earth for a probing!!

[dd515087]

Apparently my check gives the alignment for the player. I feel as if I was either blocked both nights... Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did. OPTION 2: "No result" means they are part of the management. I was given the example that if I checked someone it would come back as "Employee", not "Employee or Management". Idk how far to take that as evidence for us, but virus/IB should definitely be looked in to.

Your reply makes absolutely no sense.

" I feel as if I was either blocked both nights..."

That is a non statement. Either implies two choices. BUT if you meant, "I feel I was blocked both nights" It makes even less sense as you go on to say,,,

"Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did"...what does one have to do with the other? Knowing what your role is and how it works has absolutely no bearing on my cop investigation night one.

Option 2 implies that you were NOT blocked and by your reasoning "no result means we are management" You are implying we are both mafia/management then because we came back with no result instead of Employee.

Now when I did my cop investigation night one my investigation came back "Legionnaire is an employee" I know my alignment as employee so you were blocked or your full of crap.

The other problem I am having is I can think of no other explanation on why I could not open my gift other then I was blocked. Two mafia blockers?I can understand DD being blocked by Town night one but why night 2? It does not make sense.

What are you talking about? All I meant to say was that either I was blocked last night (same person, 2 different, idk?) or No Result means that those two are management. This ridiculous argument against me just makes me think option 2 is right and that you are management.

If virus is going to be inactive anyway it might be more beneficial to lynch IB here. But either way one of the two needs to die, to clear up my role if nothing else.

[dd515087]

Or Storr was your ability one shot or can you take one out rn? That would save a lot of time.

[Iron Butterfly]

Apparently my check gives the alignment for the player. I feel as if I was either blocked both nights... Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did. OPTION 2: "No result" means they are part of the management. I was given the example that if I checked someone it would come back as "Employee", not "Employee or Management". Idk how far to take that as evidence for us, but virus/IB should definitely be looked in to.

Your reply makes absolutely no sense.

" I feel as if I was either blocked both nights..."

That is a non statement. Either implies two choices. BUT if you meant, "I feel I was blocked both nights" It makes even less sense as you go on to say,,,

"Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did"...what does one have to do with the other? Knowing what your role is and how it works has absolutely no bearing on my cop investigation night one.

Option 2 implies that you were NOT blocked and by your reasoning "no result means we are management" You are implying we are both mafia/management then because we came back with no result instead of Employee.

Now when I did my cop investigation night one my investigation came back "Legionnaire is an employee" I know my alignment as employee so you were blocked or your full of crap.

The other problem I am having is I can think of no other explanation on why I could not open my gift other then I was blocked. Two mafia blockers?I can understand DD being blocked by Town night one but why night 2? It does not make sense.

What are you talking about? All I meant to say was that either I was blocked last night (same person, 2 different, idk?) or No Result means that those two are management. This ridiculous argument against me just makes me think option 2 is right and that you are management.

If virus is going to be inactive anyway it might be more beneficial to lynch IB here. But either way one of the two needs to die, to clear up my role if nothing else.

Yes your explanation made perfect sense and cleared it up for every body.

[legionnare]

Apparently my check gives the alignment for the player. I feel as if I was either blocked both nights... Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did. OPTION 2: "No result" means they are part of the management. I was given the example that if I checked someone it would come back as "Employee", not "Employee or Management". Idk how far to take that as evidence for us, but virus/IB should definitely be looked in to.

Your reply makes absolutely no sense.

" I feel as if I was either blocked both nights..."

That is a non statement. Either implies two choices. BUT if you meant, "I feel I was blocked both nights" It makes even less sense as you go on to say,,,

"Which wouldn't make sense to me because there was a known cop out there D2 and we didn't know what my role did"...what does one have to do with the other? Knowing what your role is and how it works has absolutely no bearing on my cop investigation night one.

Option 2 implies that you were NOT blocked and by your reasoning "no result means we are management" You are implying we are both mafia/management then because we came back with no result instead of Employee.

Now when I did my cop investigation night one my investigation came back "Legionnaire is an employee" I know my alignment as employee so you were blocked or your full of crap.

The other problem I am having is I can think of no other explanation on why I could not open my gift other then I was blocked. Two mafia blockers?I can understand DD being blocked by Town night one but why night 2? It does not make sense.

What are you talking about? All I meant to say was that either I was blocked last night (same person, 2 different, idk?) or No Result means that those two are management. This ridiculous argument against me just makes me think option 2 is right and that you are management.

If virus is going to be inactive anyway it might be more beneficial to lynch IB here. But either way one of the two needs to die, to clear up my role if nothing else.

Why would it mean IB is scum? If he was then why would he put the brakes on the vote on me? If he was scum he would let the town lynch a townie and be one step closer to victory IMO IB is confirmed town because of this.

[Iron Butterfly]

If Virus drags this out lets just lynch him then. I find this whole game annoying as we have 3 inactives, which hugely impacts the game.

[HotShot53]

If Virus drags this out lets just lynch him then. I find this whole game annoying as we have 3 inactives, which hugely impacts the game.

If he hasn't claimed by near day end, I will be putting my vote back on him.

[dd515087]

Just lynch him. These games have too long days, which makes it easy to not be active and come in whenever you want. Trust me. I do the same thing.

[StorrZerg]

Vote mtamburini



while you guys upset with virus, who is likely town.

tamb hasn't posted in 9 days.............

[StorrZerg]

GUYS im dead serious about virus, HE PUSHED HIS OWN CASE, he did his own leg work for the game, he wasn't sheeping.

The main case was on crasp, day 1, it didn't work out. He voted colton. He unvoted seeing it put him to l-1 (cause of hidden vote) I find that normal, and not scummy. I do not believe he was mafia in that position.

Hell look at this post

Spoiler

sorry wanted to post yesterday (As i promised) but got involved in celebrating the end of the exam.

so a lot happened suddenly.

First of all i think these people are town(aligned);
Storr, for killing colton, and general leading discussion pressuring where needed. Also a good analysis on charm. the only downside is that im not sure to take him to the end of the game, cause of possible 3th party, but since i am sure we still have mafia, else a bodyguard role seems strange, thats not a matter at hand right now.
Charm, cause of the sceptical attitude towards coltons claim, which helped keeping the votes there.

then i have some people who i have as town but due to things said and done today my mind is asking questions about some parts.

dd i am leaning town because of his "claim" but then he said he did nothing usefull tonight, i dont really understand what that means so it makes me wonder a bit. besides i think its a bit over confident to say "im confirmed town", i think i got the hint and some people did, but its save to say not all did, and i would say confirmed only at the point where you do your job right.
IB day 1i had a pro town feeling aswell, but for of now i dont understand why he wants legion to stay alive, legion is a valid target in my opinion for a lynch, so why the need to save him. I dont think your a cop, cause of reasons, and cause why would a cop out to save town, thats not a good play, unless like 3 town die if legion gets killed but lets put that bit on the ridiculous pile. So same goes for the doc, outing would be pretty dumb cause it would probably get you killed, so doc is not logical either. So the only thing i can think of is some kind of masoned with role or lovers, which might be possible but i dont understand it yet. The other side of the coin is that mafia would probably not be so desperate to save there buddies either. Question remains why the need to save legion.

legionnaire: due to IB's response im now lost on legionnaire. think it was valid to push him but i am now totally lost on the matter. in fact i would have joined the push on him, might have even hammered for the following: he totally turned my words around and i can not relate at all to why he thinks dd or storr is scum.

think we can agree that not both storr and dd are scum, or its a brilliantly acted discussion.

virus
Agreed with his earlier post that one of either DD or Storr are scum. Wishes to pursue Crasp. - Gut leans scum, posts lean town.

that leaves 4 possible targets. leaving legionair out of it for now.
Crasp, mtam, AoG/UCB, hotshot

First of all hotshot, least suspicious of these 4 since he voted colton, stayed on him, and is also suspicious of crasp,
but not a spectacular towny feeling or anything, cause of bit sheepish: voted, colton, voted legion, unvoted legion, first has me as probably scum, then thinks i might be right about crasp as possible scum. on top of that lots of posts as why storr is town and not scum, but i think consensus has been reached about that alreadt so not really relevant or helping much in the scum hunt. So in general i dont have a solid town feeling, but out of these not my main candidate for lynching.

i think aog/ucb is probably gonna get modkilled anyway so no need to be worrying to much about that now. if he is replaced he is a good target far a daylynch, but why waste a lynch today, if he might be killed tonight.

leaves me with 2,

mtam, basicly only some reactions to others, has been away for some days but especially because of that now is the time to shine, and convince through decent posts that you are town, but so far its not doing that at all. cannot say much more content wise on his post, cause of the lack of it really. so major scum candidate. think some pressure on him would be good.

crasp:
in my opinion his day 1 play was not solid at all hence my initial suspicion. And in my opinion it hasnt picked up much yet. he did vote for colton which gives him town creds. But besides from that he didnt gain much creds in my opinion. starts day 2 by pointing out that storr should still be fossed

Storr killed a town player or did you miss that bit. Until he is cleared by a cop the fos should still be on him.

then says storr is more town then hotshot, then says storr should be checked by a cop and his last post he says 90% storr is town.

Unvote Legion
I am going to take a chance here that Legion and IB are town. I am pretty sure about storr as well. 90% sure storr isnt scum.i am going to vote with them.

so almost every post is about storr being town yes or no, in which it shifts more and more to going storr=protown. besides this he mentions that charm is town somewhere in a post, and he joins the wagon on legionaire. and in his last posts jumps of immediatly without hesitation. and in my opinion even worse: says:

I am going to take a chance here that Legion and IB are town. I am pretty sure about storr as well. 90% sure storr isnt scum.i am going to vote with them.

so he even admits that he is going to sheep.
it all just strikes me and its not getting much better as the day goes on, so to conclude this monster post:
vote crasp

He puts a lot of effort into this post, to convince people on his view of crasp.

Right now as town we have
Iron B
Storr
dd5
legion.

I'm confident that virus is town. Or at the very least at this moment, he is far more town than hotshot, mtamb, mets.

[StorrZerg]

2. UCAbears /NEW METS (1 post, literally nothing done)
3. HotShot53 (sheeped other reads most of game)
4. mtamburini (doesn't care about game, hasn't posted in 9 days)
5. virus90 (actually contributing to the game, pushed super hard on crasp, who yes was town doc, but virus has also given town reads, and explained them)
6. StorrZerg (confirmed town due to, getting mafia lynched day 1, and doc saving him )
8. Iron Butterfly (almost certainly town, trying pretty hard this game, defended legion last second with a claimed cop check clearing legion)
9. dd515087 (sudo mod confirmed role, likely is real even though he is bad at giving hints.)
11.Charm (likely town, did a good job day 1 getting a lynch done on colton)
12.legionairre (cleared by check from IB, also storr had track on legion, confirms legion didn't go anywhere, confirms legion likely is bullet proof) (i wouldn't rule out gf on legion though)
(if a gf dies, legion is cleared imo)

[StorrZerg]

Honestly at this point, with doc dead, and likely dd5 is the only cop we have. I see no point to having roles hidden any further.

if IB wants to keep role hidden thats fine for another day. Its likely he is the death tonight anways.

double voter should claim i see no reason for double voter to stay hidden at this point.

[Iron Butterfly]

Vote mtamburini



while you guys upset with virus, who is likely town.

tamb hasn't posted in 9 days.............

I agree BUT I was blocked and we had a mafia kill. At this point we seem to voting for the most useless baggage. I do not see how I could be blocked and DD could be blocked at the same time.

when is the deadline please

[dd515087]

Vote mtamburini



while you guys upset with virus, who is likely town.

tamb hasn't posted in 9 days.............

I agree BUT I was blocked and we had a mafia kill. At this point we seem to voting for the most useless baggage. I do not see how I could be blocked and DD could be blocked at the same time.

when is the deadline please

Town blocker and a Mafia blocker? IDK. I don't understand my role.

[charm]

I don't care who we vote to lynch! I just want to get a management member.

So, choose one! As I said MTam, Mets, and Virus are my top 3 picks.

I find it interesting that Mets is quiet - I'm wondering if his role is requiring him to stary quiet.

Would someone else, beside Storr, please put something down on paper who you want to vote for?