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McClusky extorted everyone. He didn't really work with anyone unless they were the highest bidder, and he had no allegiances...Selin wrote:Coming back to Fircoal's issue:
Following Ga7's logic I now agree not to lynch him. If he is pro town on day 1 (I'm sure that he will work for Solozzo's later in the game, if he is not already working for them) he will be the target of mafia anyway tonight. Don't forget that Fircoal's character working for Sollozzo is also a big thread to carleone's, so he will be for sure the target of carloene family. Carleone's won't risk to leave him alive, otherwise he may share some valuable information with solozzo's after his investigation tonight.
So, why should we waste our day 1 lynch, even if Fircoal is already working for a mafia family. Let the other mafia family kill him.
Any other ideas?
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virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
I need to wait until "/" answers this.rebelman wrote:i like itAnarkistsdream wrote:DAMN! Good catch firth, and good to bring it back up, Wicked.wicked wrote:QFE. I didn't know there were day killers when the game started, did any of you? / would only assume there was a day killer if he knew from his role, i.e. "you're in a day mafia that acts during the day" and from talking to his scum buddies during the day.firth4eva wrote:The only suspicious bit is that / came out when he did. And where he said "I waited until the day killers had killed so I knew I was safe."
So /, care to tell us how you knew there would be day killings before they happened?now / what's the story ????
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
/ said that fircoal is a cop and said also his name. fircoal confirmed both he is a cop and his name. So I don't see much other possibilities other than fircoal is a cop. I agree that he is dangerous, my point is that he is also dangerous for the mafia!Anarkistsdream wrote:McClusky extorted everyone. He didn't really work with anyone unless they were the highest bidder, and he had no allegiances...Selin wrote:Coming back to Fircoal's issue:
Following Ga7's logic I now agree not to lynch him. If he is pro town on day 1 (I'm sure that he will work for Solozzo's later in the game, if he is not already working for them) he will be the target of mafia anyway tonight. Don't forget that Fircoal's character working for Sollozzo is also a big thread to carleone's, so he will be for sure the target of carloene family. Carleone's won't risk to leave him alive, otherwise he may share some valuable information with solozzo's after his investigation tonight.
So, why should we waste our day 1 lynch, even if Fircoal is already working for a mafia family. Let the other mafia family kill him.
Any other ideas?
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That's why he is dangerous.
I'm not gonna unvote, but so far Ga7 and Kalish have come up with som interesting points throughout this game.
Like I said, though, we can't guarantee that Fircoal is even a cop. McClusky could be an SK, as he has no allegiances. So, by leaving him alive, we are giving him a chance to kill.
Yes, but just because you know the movie doesn't mean you know the setup. Like you said, one or more of these players may grow into scum, but don't be so sure that you know if they're scum now.rebelman wrote:i have watched all 3 films at least a dozen times - hence i know who the kids are and who they grow up into there arent sufficent vanilla/town young characters that grow up during the trilogy hence ny belief that at least 1 is scum.F1fth wrote: And I also don't like that he tried to assert (for whatever reason) that at least one of the babies must be scum. I don't know how you can possibly come to that conclusion this early in the game.
My claim got skittles to reveal he doesnt know his alignment yet (this in itself was a success) as we now know that skittles is either scum and couldnt come up with a defense that would make him a townie so went for that vague one or he is telling the truth is unalligned now but potentially will grow into scum.
From the day scene, the only other family mentioned is the Barzini family, so what makes you think that there's a Solozzo? And furthermore, why on earth would you assume that they have a doctor?Selin wrote:Actually some decisions for tonight are getting clearer. Let's have some speculations on that.
carleone's night kill choice: Fircoal, either as townie cop or Solozzo's cop
Solozzo's night kill choice: /, as townie cop
/'s investigation choice: anyone but not Fircoal
townie doctor protecting choice: /, to keep the cop alive
Solozzo's doctor protecting choice: Fircoal, to keep him alive for getting results of his investigation
If those choices will be made, we will have no kill and two investigation results tomorrow!
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agreed completelySelin wrote:
/ said that fircoal is a cop and said also his name. fircoal confirmed both he is a cop and his name. So I don't see much other possibilities other than fircoal is a cop. I agree that he is dangerous, my point is that he is also dangerous for the mafia!
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much of what selin said about fircoal had been said by me amongstothers alreadyMountainLion wrote:Selin's making some good points. I would re-think voting Fircoal, but I don't really see a better target.
and I agree / needs to clarify what he said earlier.
Solozzo worked for the Tattaglias... There is no Solozzo mob.F1fth wrote:Yes, but just because you know the movie doesn't mean you know the setup. Like you said, one or more of these players may grow into scum, but don't be so sure that you know if they're scum now.rebelman wrote:i have watched all 3 films at least a dozen times - hence i know who the kids are and who they grow up into there arent sufficent vanilla/town young characters that grow up during the trilogy hence ny belief that at least 1 is scum.F1fth wrote: And I also don't like that he tried to assert (for whatever reason) that at least one of the babies must be scum. I don't know how you can possibly come to that conclusion this early in the game.
My claim got skittles to reveal he doesnt know his alignment yet (this in itself was a success) as we now know that skittles is either scum and couldnt come up with a defense that would make him a townie so went for that vague one or he is telling the truth is unalligned now but potentially will grow into scum.
And did anyone see this?
From the day scene, the only other family mentioned is the Barzini family, so what makes you think that there's a Solozzo? And furthermore, why on earth would you assume that they have a doctor?Selin wrote:Actually some decisions for tonight are getting clearer. Let's have some speculations on that.
carleone's night kill choice: Fircoal, either as townie cop or Solozzo's cop
Solozzo's night kill choice: /, as townie cop
/'s investigation choice: anyone but not Fircoal
townie doctor protecting choice: /, to keep the cop alive
Solozzo's doctor protecting choice: Fircoal, to keep him alive for getting results of his investigation
If those choices will be made, we will have no kill and two investigation results tomorrow!
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virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
right, but he did come up with the McCluskey being an enemy of the Corleones which hadn't been brought up yet I believe...actually the fact that the Corleones might kill him anyway, so why waist a lynch.rebelman wrote:much of what selin said about fircoal had been said by me amongstothers alreadyMountainLion wrote:Selin's making some good points. I would re-think voting Fircoal, but I don't really see a better target.
and I agree / needs to clarify what he said earlier.
That's a good point, too.MountainLion wrote:right, but he did come up with the McCluskey being an enemy of the Corleones which hadn't been brought up yet I believe...actually the fact that the Corleones might kill him anyway, so why waist a lynch.rebelman wrote:much of what selin said about fircoal had been said by me amongstothers alreadyMountainLion wrote:Selin's making some good points. I would re-think voting Fircoal, but I don't really see a better target.
and I agree / needs to clarify what he said earlier.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
No, we will get 2 kills (since most Scum have this funny little habit of targeting people who aren't protectedSelin wrote:Actually some decisions for tonight are getting clearer. Let's have some speculations on that.
carleone's night kill choice: Fircoal, either as townie cop or Solozzo's cop
Solozzo's night kill choice: /, as townie cop
/'s investigation choice: anyone but not Fircoal
townie doctor protecting choice: /, to keep the cop alive
Solozzo's doctor protecting choice: Fircoal, to keep him alive for getting results of his investigation
If those choices will be made, we will have no kill and two investigation results tomorrow!
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). Because only good Mafia is dead Mafia.MountainLion wrote:right, but he did come up with the McCluskey being an enemy of the Corleones which hadn't been brought up yet I believe...actually the fact that the Corleones might kill him anyway, so why waist a lynch.rebelman wrote:much of what selin said about fircoal had been said by me amongstothers alreadyMountainLion wrote:Selin's making some good points. I would re-think voting Fircoal, but I don't really see a better target.
and I agree / needs to clarify what he said earlier.
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Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
But we don't know for sure 100% that he's scum. By definition of his character, he should be scum, but I've been in a couple other mafia games where the mod didn't align them the way I would have, so you never know.mandalorian2298 wrote:Because only good Mafia is dead Mafia.
SFOS Lion & Selin they are both good players and yet they both want to protect Fircoal despite the fact that he claimed a scum roll. If Fircoal come out as Scum, I'm betting at least one of these two is scum as well.
My vote stays on Fircoal (YAY!
The fact that you voted Fircoal is stated in the post that I quoted. BUT, you also seem to like Selin's idea of releasing Fircoal to the wilderness (which is always a bad choice. For the wilderness.MountainLion wrote:But we don't know for sure 100% that he's scum. By definition of his character, he should be scum, but I've been in a couple other mafia games where the mod didn't align them the way I would have, so you never know.mandalorian2298 wrote:Because only good Mafia is dead Mafia.
SFOS Lion & Selin they are both good players and yet they both want to protect Fircoal despite the fact that he claimed a scum roll. If Fircoal come out as Scum, I'm betting at least one of these two is scum as well.
My vote stays on Fircoal (YAY!
Plus if you weren't skimming, you'd know that I have a vote on Fircoal right now.
). Hence the SFOS.Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
BUSTED!/ wrote:geez, the day kills happened like less than an hour after I got here, I keep saying, I wasn't even planning on revealing my role unless there seemed to be a need for info, theres no deadlines, there were no kills, why would I claim the second I got here? I keep saying the I needed to get the info out before I was killed, so I waited to make sure the killers weren't still active, then I made my claim.
Anyways, the way that Wicked is pressuring this matter when it will be settled next phase make me believe that if fircoal is scum, then wicked is defiantly a teammate of his. I mean you say we should never lynch a claimed cop, but you seem to be trying to put me (also a claimed cop) on the gallows yourself.
Yeah, it certainly sounds odd, because how the hell would "/" know how many day killers there are?firth4eva wrote:BUSTED!/ wrote:geez, the day kills happened like less than an hour after I got here, I keep saying, I wasn't even planning on revealing my role unless there seemed to be a need for info, theres no deadlines, there were no kills, why would I claim the second I got here? I keep saying the I needed to get the info out before I was killed, so I waited to make sure the killers weren't still active, then I made my claim.
Anyways, the way that Wicked is pressuring this matter when it will be settled next phase make me believe that if fircoal is scum, then wicked is defiantly a teammate of his. I mean you say we should never lynch a claimed cop, but you seem to be trying to put me (also a claimed cop) on the gallows yourself.
I think. In my head it sounded like he meant he knew there were daykillers. Anyone else think I'm fucked in the head or am I making sense?
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
According to the vote count, your vote is actualy on me.mandalorian2298 wrote:No, we will get 2 kills (since most Scum have this funny little habit of targeting people who aren't protectedSelin wrote:Actually some decisions for tonight are getting clearer. Let's have some speculations on that.
carleone's night kill choice: Fircoal, either as townie cop or Solozzo's cop
Solozzo's night kill choice: /, as townie cop
/'s investigation choice: anyone but not Fircoal
townie doctor protecting choice: /, to keep the cop alive
Solozzo's doctor protecting choice: Fircoal, to keep him alive for getting results of his investigation
If those choices will be made, we will have no kill and two investigation results tomorrow!
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Because only good Mafia is dead Mafia.MountainLion wrote:right, but he did come up with the McCluskey being an enemy of the Corleones which hadn't been brought up yet I believe...actually the fact that the Corleones might kill him anyway, so why waist a lynch.rebelman wrote:much of what selin said about fircoal had been said by me amongstothers alreadyMountainLion wrote:Selin's making some good points. I would re-think voting Fircoal, but I don't really see a better target.
and I agree / needs to clarify what he said earlier.
SFOS Lion & Selin they are both good players and yet they both want to protect Fircoal despite the fact that he claimed a scum roll. If Fircoal come out as Scum, I'm betting at least one of these two is scum as well.
My vote stays on Fircoal (YAY!
This post really made me think that Selin is scum. He's basically saying that fricoal is in his scum group so we shouldn't worry about lynching scum. this post reeks of evil intentions so:Selin wrote:Coming back to Fircoal's issue:
Following Ga7's logic I now agree not to lynch him. If he is pro town on day 1 (I'm sure that he will work for Solozzo's later in the game, if he is not already working for them) he will be the target of mafia anyway tonight. Don't forget that Fircoal's character working for Sollozzo is also a big thread to carleone's, so he will be for sure the target of carloene family. Carleone's won't risk to leave him alive, otherwise he may share some valuable information with solozzo's after his investigation tonight.
So, why should we waste our day 1 lynch, even if Fircoal is already working for a mafia family. Let the other mafia family kill him.
Any other ideas?
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/, if you're a deputy, wouldn't that mean you don't have any investigations unless the cop above you dies? The fact that you're "inquisitvie" would explain how you knew who Fircoal is, but you say you can investigate Fircoal during night 1, but how can you do that if you're a deputy?/ wrote:I don't have a name to my role, I'm just "Inquisitive deputy".
they will be on sky movies soon if you live in this part of the worldF1fth wrote:Bah, I need to watch those freaking movies.
yeah this looks like an excellent catchAnarkistsdream wrote:Yeah, it certainly sounds odd, because how the hell would "/" know how many day killers there are?firth4eva wrote:BUSTED!/ wrote:geez, the day kills happened like less than an hour after I got here, I keep saying, I wasn't even planning on revealing my role unless there seemed to be a need for info, theres no deadlines, there were no kills, why would I claim the second I got here? I keep saying the I needed to get the info out before I was killed, so I waited to make sure the killers weren't still active, then I made my claim.
Anyways, the way that Wicked is pressuring this matter when it will be settled next phase make me believe that if fircoal is scum, then wicked is defiantly a teammate of his. I mean you say we should never lynch a claimed cop, but you seem to be trying to put me (also a claimed cop) on the gallows yourself.
I think. In my head it sounded like he meant he knew there were daykillers. Anyone else think I'm fucked in the head or am I making sense?
