Rated M ENDGAME: Scene on Page 42

[Leehar]

I knew saf was scummy when he tried going for the no lynch!

[edocsil]

I knew saf was scummy when he tried going for the no lynch!

This is scummy. The vig was responsible for this, and you attempt gain town appearance but going "Oh yeah, I thought that was right too." FOS Leehar

[Leehar]

Well I guess I should at least be happy you didn't actually vote me.
It was just a general observation, and the reason why I was suspicious of isaiah, and I'm just glad that I was right in thinking asking for a no lynch seemed like the route of scum, and it seems like a good idea to check on the others who were also advocating it.
You do make a good point in saying the vig is responsible for it tho, and it brings up the question of either why he didn't attack someone on night 1, and why saf last night?

[jgordon1111]

very simple to explain again, I dont use my kills randomly in any game, If I dont have a clear target on night one I wont kill and take a chance on hitting a town role we will need. So I shook the tree on D2 to see who would fall out 2 did and I figure a third. But we will get to that later. Did I answer your question Leehar? If not ask anything you need I will answer as always.

[Iron Butterfly]

[quote="jgordon1111"]very simple to explain again, I dont use my kills randomly in any game, If I dont have a clear target on night one I wont kill and take a chance on hitting a town role we will need. So I shook the tree on D2 to see who would fall out 2 did and I figure a third. But we will get to that later. Did I answer your question Leehar? If not ask anything you need I will answer as always.[/quo

Maybe Im splitting hairs here but I played in your first game not to long ago. The way you are discribing yourself you make it sound as if your a Mafia Veteren with a wealth of experience in using Night kill actions.

How exactly did you shake the tree? From what I recall you were the one who got shaken. Im just checking to make sure we are both playing the same game.

[jgordon1111]

you are exactly right IB, not very experienced at all, But enought to know that if someone just showed up to say lynch me and drop repeatedly out of site again that he was scum.

shaking the tree, that was mine and edoc's fight and then surviving it. Then watch who kept jumping in each time and why,if they were giving valid reasons of thier own or waiting until someone else said something first and going along with it.

You guys didnt give me alot of choice I suck at lying.

[Iron Butterfly]

I would be interested to see how you can prove to us you suck at lieing.

I guess we will just have to take you at your word.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[edocsil]

Alright, trying to get the conversation going here.

IB and JG are the only 2 to have claimed at this point correct? This leaves Mob, Leehar, BG, Name, and I unclaimed? I would suggest a pursuit of one of the unclaimed. I will make a case if another does not, but so far my batting average has been a bit low.

[Leehar]

Name's gone a bit underground since the edoc pressuring, so I don't mind voting him first, but I'm also concerned because I haven't seen Mob around that much either. I'm not sure if he's undergoing a general malaise in time avail. for mafia, or if it's a conscious decision on his part to submarine, but since he's been caught out, we can stay on the lookout for him.
So vote name while we await him popping up

[nàme]

mob is sick and unable to be at computer, and i just havent had anything to say on this. my main target just got defended by cop, so i was clearly wrong on all my reads. me posting speculations on who is good or bad wont likely help at this time.

[jgordon1111]

Easy IB get in a game with me as mafia and have me try to fake claim,apparently its a hoot and I dont make it thru 8 hrs. before lynch occurs.

[jgordon1111]

Back to this one then, I think IB brought up a good point about our doc still being alive. I know you soft claimed BG but indulge us please. I have an Idea of the last mafia but your claim will clear you if you dont mindvote BG.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[Iron Butterfly]

Back to this one then, I think IB brought up a good point about our doc still being alive. I know you soft claimed BG but indulge us please. I have an Idea of the last mafia but your claim will clear you if you dont mindvote BG.

I wasnt saying he was mafia. He already claimed. I just said it was odd the doc lived...then again not so when ya think about it.

a) Hes mafia (no one has stepped forward to claim doc) so I doubt that.

B) Mafia was scared to target him so went for the easier victim.

c) There are other protective roles we do not know about.

[edocsil]

From my POV we have 2 scum left and 3 unclaimed roles not counting myself. I have said that my role is fairly ironclad and if pressured I will claim, but I do not see the purpose at the moment. This leaves me looking at Vig and a Joat who I believe, and a doc who I think is a bit sketchy, but there are no other protectives at the moment so I say he passes too.

Leehar, Name and Mob are left. I would be comfortable pursuing any of them, as the odds are rather in our favor that we will hang scum. That with a vig tonight of one of the remaining could leave us with a game over. I would pick Mob to live personally and pursue Leehar nad Name. I would attempt to lynch Leehar as I think he will promote more discussion then Name.

[jgordon1111]

LOL BG I already told both you and edoc, neither of you were my targets, and I only ask you for a hard claim so that it clears you firmly with no one disputing you any further. Then before time could run out we would be able to put pressure on some of the others to claim.

And yes I was erratic as hell but I really didnt have much of a choice, end result 2 mafia gone, 2 to go.

[MoB Deadly]

Catching up since the scene

[MoB Deadly]

Not much to add at this point. Nice shooting JG. I don't mind claiming if it comes to that point, I will try to look at Leehar and Name tomorrow to cast my vote on who I think should claim before me.

[nàme]

well, if i am going to be pressured tomorrow and considering all this discussion, i might as well come out and say it: i am Yameon Relahe, Town Doctor. read back and you know i am serious about this. i had thought there could be two doctors in this game, but now i am not so sure. if there are, we better be right about this lynch today. this could be rash or late, but i wanted to wait as long as possible just in case. i did not protect BGthebrain any night so far, and i prolonged this to keep myself safe. im not sure if this means that BGthebrain is lying, but this causes some much needed explanation. yes, i can understand how this is hard to grasp my claim at this point in time

[edocsil]

Alright. Which of them dies?

[Iron Butterfly]

Alright. Which of them dies?

I think this may be a red herring. Because two docs are claimed does not mean one is mafia. One could be Naive. I wouldnt put it past Sully to pull somthing like that.

I will say this. BG has been playing like town in my opinion. What does that mean? It means in my eyes there is a stronger possibility that he is Town then Mafia. He had been part of all the discussion through out the game, hes put his opinions on the line.

Name...well he is an interesting card. Reading through from page 23 up he has appeared very scummy in my eyes. I was ready to vote him...till I started reading his Doc hints. He had that slip about...claiming..."Shall we claim till we reveal the Doc?"
Everyone jumped on him for skimming...I read a page after and popped back here to post.

I dont think we should be so hasty in lynching one of the two claimed Docs simply because they have claimed Doc.

Leehar has addided nothing to the game and Mob has dissapeared for whatever reason. Keep that in mind.

If we are going to hang them lets put forward a solid case.

[nàme]

mob is sick and he just got back. this is on good authority and should be slowly crawling back in soon

[Iron Butterfly]

Page 32 an interesting read.

Edocil is calling out Name about the assumed Doc skimming. Name get all defensive...lol...a tad over sensitive for this game if you ask me.

BUT...Edocil appears extremely frustrated and asks for "everyone get in here"

Safari and then Leharr then put the focus on Edocil...completely ignoring the pressure Edocil is putting on Name.

Were they are both trying to redirect/misdirect/deflect? We now know Safari is Mafia.

[Iron Butterfly]

I will say this finally. I am to tired to make a case...BUT

I would take a strong look at Leehar before lynching one of the Docs.

There have been times where Safari and Leharr appear to be acting in tandom...combine that with other aspects and I would easily condider voting Leehar. 130 am here and Ive obsessed enough tonight with our game.