Political Mafia -- Liberals Win

[got tonkaed]

Mitch forgot to vote. You want to take that risk Epi? Vote with us where you know we will all vote on time.

Somehow that doesn't seem like as bad of a risk as you make it out to be. Epi shoots, and you guys are down to 6 votes. Heaven forbid he shoots the Lib vote stealer (probably NOS).

I mean id love for mitch to make sure he can contribute, but Epi has seen a world in which cooperation with The Conservative Party leads to waking up the next day.

[Army of GOD]

not to mention taht we know that one of dakky or Endgame is the double voter. If you were to shoot one, and it ends up being the double voter, we know we'll have a big advantage

[Endgame422]

Where is the proof you were protected anyway?you dont even know rag is a doc.
Just hold your shot,vote with us.
Keep yourself in high demand and safe another day.

[dazza2008]

Epi's not going to shoot 1 though. He's not an idiot.

[dazza2008]

Epi is not guarenteed protection as you made it obvious who is protecting him. We just need to roleblock the protector and kill. Up to you Epi. We can protect you and nobody knows who is protecting you.

[got tonkaed]

Epi is not guarenteed protection as you made it obvious who is protecting him. We just need to roleblock the protector and kill. Up to you Epi. We can protect you and nobody knows who is protecting you.

I don't know that you have a roleblock to be honest. It doesn't seem like there is one.

[got tonkaed]

Where is the proof you were protected anyway?you dont even know rag is a doc.
Just hold your shot,vote with us.
Keep yourself in high demand and safe another day.

He knows he didn't die. He also knows if he shoots one of you guys and votes with us he is far more assured than any other option. We made good on our promise, and have no intention of going back on it. The Libs don't have the track record.

[BGtheBrain]

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[got tonkaed]

Epi needs to go.

I think he is scum and totally playing us both.

Every day will come down to us begging him to switch side. Kind of convenient there is only 1 NK. Sounds like 3rd party is most likely mafia.

Even if this was true, we are not in a strong enough spot without him.

Therefore, being eternally optimistic, I will assume he is not. Epi do the right thing and shoot a Lib.

[Army of GOD]

1. Epi shoots one of dakky or Endgame
2. Shot lib flips either double voter or another role
3. We lynch the one that wasn't shot
4. Lynched lib is either another role or double voter (whichever one Epi shot wasn't)
5. We remove the lib double voter and another role from the lib, which could even be the vote stealer

[got tonkaed]

1. Epi shoots one of dakky or Endgame
2. Shot lib flips either double voter or another role
3. We lynch the one that wasn't shot
4. Lynched lib is either another role or double voter (whichever one Epi shot wasn't)
5. We remove the lib double voter and another role from the lib, which could even be the vote stealer

Henceforth referred to as Plan A

[Epitaph1]

Epi needs to go.

I think he is scum and totally playing us both.

Every day will come down to us begging him to switch side. Kind of convenient there is only 1 NK. Sounds like 3rd party is most likely mafia.

Yeah right, dude. Sounds like you're trying to set me up.

Which side are you on today, B? Thought you would flip flop on us.

[BGtheBrain]

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[got tonkaed]

BG has a very valid point in that Epi. We are making some pretty strong good faith offers (that aren't being matched) and you are not holding up your end. It is concerning.

BG did not flip in the night.

[dazza2008]

They don't trust you Epi. Come and work with us.

[got tonkaed]

They don't trust you Epi. Come and work with us.

It isn't a lack of trust, it is simply a matter of concern. It is fairly clear what probably happened last night. We just want Epi to understand we are here to work together and we are just asking Epi to meet that side of the bargin.

[dazza2008]

Epi needs to go.

I think he is scum and totally playing us both.

Every day will come down to us begging him to switch side. Kind of convenient there is only 1 NK. Sounds like 3rd party is most likely mafia.

Sounds very much like a lack of trust to me.

[BGtheBrain]

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[dakky21]

The thing is I believe Epi can win only if both Libs & Cons are eliminated. That makes him valuable asset for both parties, but also the biggest enemy.

Currently, with or without epi/mitch, we can still lynch Conservative, but I guess that's not going to happen as the vote won't be called and the day will end without lynching.

[Endgame422]

Thats ok dakky,libs have adv at night.
Why do you think only a con died last night?
This is why GoT is pushing epi so hard,they need him.

[Ragian]

Math done.

The main factors that drove my decision yesterday is that it appeared the cons had more votes and Rag offered me protection. Today, it looks like the Libs have the most votes. I still need assurances on the protection.

Aye. And nothing happened to you. Or me. Wonder why. If they really had anything, they would've used it. I wasn't blocked, I wasn't killed. Neither were you.

Now, epi has not shot anyone, but he did vote with us. Alienating him now does not help us. I think he needs to win on his own too which forces him not to shoot till he's 1v1 or something. Anyway, epi can still vote with us so stop antagonising him.

Epi is not guarenteed protection as you made it obvious who is protecting him. We just need to roleblock the protector and kill. Up to you Epi. We can protect you and nobody knows who is protecting you.

Explain last night

@BG, streaker is still speaker, yeah? Why vote AoG?

[madmitch]

The thing is I believe Epi can win only if both Libs & Cons are eliminated. That makes him valuable asset for both parties, but also the biggest enemy.

Currently, with or without epi/mitch, we can still lynch Conservative, but I guess that's not going to happen as the vote won't be called and the day will end without lynching.

I am still hear and are ready to vote when ever and who ever my party wants,Epi stick with us you will be okay,guys completely sorry about missing the vote,won,t happen again,, dakky seems to be the mouth piece for the libs what about getting rid of him?

[Streaker]

All discussion relating possible actions vs epi is bullocks. Nobody is going to kill epi.

Why would lib want him dead, when they have an entire list of us available and there is always the possibility of him joining their ranks.
Why would we want him dead, copy pasta above.

Epi is in a fantastic position, and he knows it. Now what is indeed troubling is that he is still doubting his own allegiance.
I was hoping Epi wouldn't be throwing that for sale each and every day, which he now is.

Epi you voted with us on D1, and we had a good result. We also offered protection but we both know you don't actually need/want that. What you need/want is a clear path to winning this game, and I believe you commited to that on D1 when you joined the conservative ranks. All you have to do is shoot a lib, preferably one of our suggestions, and then I will call the vote (after we organized the best target). We take out another lib, and we repeat the process tomorrow.

Assuming a balanced game, we are also capable of killing a lib at night, which would together with your kill put the dice heavily in our favour.

Actually that's probably why you haven't shot yet, to keep it as a bargaining chip. Do you honestly believe we'd dump you after you used your shot? Your vote means a LOT to us, Epi. Also, if you shoot a lib now, there would be even less reasons for you to be targeted at night, giving you a freeroll as a vanilla third party.

[dazza2008]

Libs don't want Epi dead. Only BG and he is with you.

My point is that you gave away who is protecting.

[Streaker]

Libs don't want Epi dead. Only BG and he is with you.

My point is that you gave away who is protecting.

BG doesn't want epi dead. BG is drunk. He'll correct what he said next time he posts. Just like he was drunk when he voted for AoG for speaker.