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Mongol Empire Map [Quenched]

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:18 pm
by ritz627
Looks like a great map, I cant wait to play it. It will certainly be one of my new favorites. No complaints from me.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:21 pm
by KEYOGI
Would you consider bringing back the darker shadows on the smaller map Guiscard? I'm finding it a bit hard to read the territory labels, mainly in Golden Horde.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:29 pm
by Jack0827
I can't wait to play I think that it is fantastic

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:29 pm
by unriggable
What is that island at the bottom right??

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:43 am
by The1exile
unriggable wrote:What is that island at the bottom right??
You mean the one off Fujian?

I think that's Taiwan.

names

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:55 am
by jasnostj
Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.

Re: names

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:07 am
by RobinJ
jasnostj wrote:Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.
I think it may be too late to do anything this drastic - it would set it back months

Re: names

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:49 pm
by Guiscard
jasnostj wrote:Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.
I think the curve of the map may be confusing you slightly... But thanks for your comments.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:00 pm
by Guiscard
OK lets try again...

Wisse - I've gotten rid of the little nub in India BUT the other areas you highlighted cannot be changed. If i make the coastline section lighter it looks wrong compared to the rest of the coastline, and at the moment I don't really believe it looks noticably bolder so I'm not making the change here. The other areas are part of shadows, and lightening the borders spoils the natural flow of the shadow so again I don't want to make the change.

To those who wanted shadows on the smaller map, I have actually added as much shadow as i can without it becoming muddy and unreadable in this update.

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CODE IS HERE

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<smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
<smallheight>314</smallheight>
<largewidth>800</largewidth>
<largeheight>418</largeheight>
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<bonus>5</bonus>
-
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<component>Crimea</component>
<component>Bolgar</component>
<component>Astrakhan</component>
<component>Uzbeg</component>
<component>White Horde</component>
<component>Yenisei</component>
<component>Alans</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
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<name>Ilkhanate</name>
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<component>Khurasan</component>
<component>Khorazm</component>
<component>Kirman</component>
<component>Samarkand</component>
<component>Fars</component>
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<component>Kabul</component>
<component>Tian Shan</component>
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:25 pm
by RobinJ
Please just quench this andy and Keyogi. Nothing new is coming up - only old arguments being revived. I think Guiscard has done everything to make this map visually pleasing and the playability looks good too.

QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH

[-o<

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:40 am
by Wisse
Guiscard wrote:OK lets try again...

Wisse - I've gotten rid of the little nub in India BUT the other areas you highlighted cannot be changed. If i make the coastline section lighter it looks wrong compared to the rest of the coastline, and at the moment I don't really believe it looks noticably bolder so I'm not making the change here. The other areas are part of shadows, and lightening the borders spoils the natural flow of the shadow so again I don't want to make the change.

To those who wanted shadows on the smaller map, I have actually added as much shadow as i can without it becoming muddy and unreadable in this update.

ok i don't mind the dark borders but humley did so i searched for them
the thicker borders looks good now ;)

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:48 pm
by unriggable
The1exile wrote:
unriggable wrote:What is that island at the bottom right??
You mean the one off Fujian?

I think that's Taiwan.
More bottom right.

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:10 pm
by The1exile
Easy.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Philippines.L.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzon

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:06 am
by Guiscard
Indeed. The 'curve' of the map makes it seem larger than it may be on 'flat' maps.

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:22 am
by unriggable
Guiscard wrote:
Indeed. The 'curve' of the map makes it seem larger than it may be on 'flat' maps.
Touche...

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:46 pm
by The1exile
RobinJ wrote:QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH QUENCH

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:04 pm
by AndyDufresne
I'm just curious, was there some discussion about Inner Tibet, and the difference between the large and the small map? Any reason behind the difference?


--Andy

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 pm
by Guiscard
AndyDufresne wrote:I'm just curious, was there some discussion about Inner Tibet, and the difference between the large and the small map? Any reason behind the difference?


--Andy
Sure. If it was in the same place in the smaller image the army circle touches the neighbouring circles, whereas if it is placed in the same position (above not left) on the large map it touches the borders there. I thought it would be better to give it more space where possible, on the large map, but move it on the small so it would only be touching borders not circles. Anyhow, no-one should be looking at both maps at once :D

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:26 am
by hulmey
lets rock this map........................ :)

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:35 pm
by AndyDufresne
Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML? :)


--Andy

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:04 am
by Guiscard
AndyDufresne wrote:Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML? :)


--Andy
Of course you lazy monkey :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:18 am
by Wisse
Guiscard wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML? :)


--Andy
Of course you lazy monkey :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

you forgot the xml

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:25 pm
by Guiscard
Wisse wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML? :)


--Andy
Of course you lazy monkey :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

you forgot the xml
For Gods sake... Not to be patronising but all three of those things could be gleaned from the original post in a matter of seconds...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lqkhjw

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:45 pm
by AndyDufresne
            • Quenching
The Final Forge period has concluded for the Mongol Empire Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


–Andy

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
by DiM
congrats guiscard =D>
well done mate.


PS: andy change the title to [quenched] :wink:
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