Conquer Club

FloresDelMal wrote:

Fircoal wrote:

theherkman wrote:I was all ready to claim then got fastposted... Should I not claim? I'm confused. I have enough votes to be lynched right now at the deadline.

You SHOULD NOT claim if you're doing it to save your own skin. You SHOULD claim if you have evidence that Dazey is scum, and your role won't end up killing her anyway.

QFT chu you became so manly all of the sudden *giggles

nah seriously herk, if you really are town and you really have proofs that daze is scum you should claim now, and the doc can always protect you during the night, if daze is scum we can know for sure that violet is too, and maybe the commander as well, thought im less certain of this.

I don't think I can be classified as manly in any way

Also I don't think Violet and Daze are aligned with each other for sure. Rather they are close friends that are sticking up for each other a lot. (However in Storytime they aren't... which is weird.)

aage wrote:

theherkman wrote:I was all ready to claim then got fastposted... Should I not claim? I'm confused. I have enough votes to be lynched right now at the deadline.

Normally I'd say refrain from claiming until at L-1 with nothing else to say, but with this amount of players, a deadline closing in and you supposing your role is such super-duper-awesomeness I'd say claim whenever you feel like claiming. But then that was 10 pages ago, when you suddenly felt the need to claim, so I think that's a bad reference.

In order to avoid confusion: "whatever fircoal said". And whilst being fastposted (AGAIN!!! i hate all this activity flood stuff) I also agree with what Strike wolf says, namely that you should use arguments rather than just turn over your card and state whatever you are.


Also, fastposted AGAINNNNN, chopping block isn't enough. If she has been lying, let us know, but you don't need your role for that. Just tell us where she's lying.

Let's all fastpost Aage!

Okay, well let's start with this. She needs to explain what she has to do with a doctor. Everything about her connection and the doctor's name. If she isn't convincing enough, we can go from there. I too have information about this, but more information than she has, so I will be able to tell if she is lying. Also, I have knowledge of who several safe people are.

Fircoal wrote:Also I don't think Violet and Daze are aligned with each other for sure. Rather they are close friends that are sticking up for each other a lot. (However in Storytime they aren't... which is weird.)

sweetheart i know that i love you, and nick and heck, even the frenchy, but not because of that i go and support you no matter what, this is a mafia game, is not the place to express undying friendship, and the fact that they dont have the same scummy behaviour over that other game, make it all the more plausible that they might as well be noobs scum buddies who made the mistake of link each other this early on the game.

Oh and also you are manly when you use all that proper grammar and express strong opinions, im so proud *sheds a tear

theherkman wrote:Okay, well let's start with this. She needs to explain what she has to do with a doctor. Everything about her connection and the doctor's name. If she isn't convincing enough, we can go from there. I too have information about this, but more information than she has, so I will be able to tell if she is lying. Also, I have knowledge of who several safe people are.

hmm. Turns out this is not so different from what I though it was (mixing it up with crusades and all) lol.

@Fircoal: you already did that. Thrice XD

And now again! Flores, !@%!#

theherkman wrote:Okay, well let's start with this. She needs to explain what she has to do with a doctor. Everything about her connection and the doctor's name. If she isn't convincing enough, we can go from there. I too have information about this, but more information than she has, so I will be able to tell if she is lying. Also, I have knowledge of who several safe people are.

no way, by no means we should out the doctor, what are you crazy kid?

His fake name. Not who he is, his role name.

Flores, I think he's talking about information about the Doctor role, not the player. Although I'm not exactly sure. But if herk clarifies this he probably screws the attempt to bust Daze.

Tbh, i don't see daze explaining anything too soon(maybe if we post on her wall or something ...)

I will know if she is lying about the "doctor" she claims to know. I want to hear her give us the fake name and I want to give her a few test questions to clarify.

I know a way.

Daze, according to theherkman you should have information about the doc's role name. Not the player name, the role name. Share or die.

Yes, the pink really does it I believe.

theherkman wrote:His fake name. Not who he is, his role name.

what are the chances of daze putting a defense that doesnt involve "f*** everyone who says im not town, OMGUS, you are all scum, smooches to vio" ??? i say if you can out her as scum you can do it now, because several ppl already asked her to explain what was this semi incoherent rambling about the doctor and she only ignored it and made some noise, dont you see the pattern yet?

aage wrote:I know a way.

Daze, according to theherkman you should have information about the doc's role name. Not the player name, the role name. Share or die.

Lol... haha...

But yeah, this is real simple. Give me the fake name of the doc. If you don't have the fake name I can ask you a series of questions to see if you are lying about the doc.

Well that changes things if herk actually does have information that proves this than it's huge. UNVOTE for two reasons. A. This is a big claim for a new player to think up himself and B. I want to make sure that this does get clarified as long as the person who is the doctor is not revealed.

aage wrote:I know a way.

Daze, according to theherkman you should have information about the doc's role name. Not the player name, the role name. Share or die.

Still this assumes that she's at least looking over the pages. And i'm pretty sure she's not doing even that(except for the last 1/2 every few days, when she posts)

Well the nice thing about this is we will know for sure about her. And you will know for sure about me if she is scum that I am not.

Flores, this is the thing. Daze claims to know something, and Herkman claims he can verify this. Herkman cannot out her as scum if she doesn't answer her question so it'll be pretty simple; answer or die.

Also, Strike wolf reminds me to unvote.

strike wolf wrote:Well that changes things if herk actually does have information that proves this than it's huge. UNVOTE for two reasons. A. This is a big claim for a new player to think up himself and B. I want to make sure that this does get clarified as long as the person who is the doctor is not revealed.

QFT, please everyone who is active now unvote the herk, sure now we are all into hyperactive mode, but tomorrow who knows, and i couldnt want to see him get lynch just because he is the last fashionable BW, when i still like better our first BW, you, before it got sold out

strike wolf wrote:To be honest vio and Daze. I think you've both let personal feelings get in the way. I believe I mentioned this early in a different context but that's not good for anyone. It screws with the dynamic of the game and it can lead to bad lynches and messed up night actions (for instance a cop not investigating a friend who turns out to be scum because they trust them outside of the game). you both need to take a step back and look at this more analytically and all three of you (including flores) need to put this behind you for the game to continue properly.

That is a very logical post strikewolf and I respect you for that.
You brought up some good points. I suppose me and Dazey have both been a tad extra sensitive lately, which may have caused us both to misunderstand some things and lash out at flores.
I apologize to flores; she has moved on and so will I. For her sake, the game's sake and everyone else’s. Also I know it totally seems this way- however I am not defending Dazey for ungame related reasons anymore- even though it may seem that way.
I like to meta game quite a bit- and in an early post- I mentioned how her behavior in this game is very different from her behavior in another game we are playing together. If you look at storytime- we have been voting each other all game long- early on in the game for lulz, and later more seriously.

I see no reason not to believe the town roleblocker claim at this point in the game. People voted for her- b/c of her color- (stupid reason). And some voted for her because they felt as though she posted a response to Victor’s post much too soon. These were pretty much the two main reasons behind her bandwagon. I had no issue with the pink, I rather liked it actually. She always post in pink! Just is not doing so now because of immense pressure from people in this game- and is quite sad about it And I knew I was the reason why she posted so quickly in response to Victor. I had told her to.
Thus from my perspective, I saw no scummy behavior from her. The bandwagon was much scummier, imo.

If she does turn up to be mafia.. woe is me I suppose, but I have no evidence against her. Thus I will defend those whom I have no evidence again, not just Dazey.
My point is- I was not defending her for friendship reasons- it is the way I am playing the game. You can analyze that strategy however you like.

I have also analyzed sax…lad’s behavior in two games as well.

I also do not feel that herk is mafia. Very eager and funny townie from my perspective. And I rather enjoy some of his post

Who replaced who in this game? Aage for AoG, right? And who else?

VioIet wrote:

strike wolf wrote:To be honest vio and Daze. I think you've both let personal feelings get in the way. I believe I mentioned this early in a different context but that's not good for anyone. It screws with the dynamic of the game and it can lead to bad lynches and messed up night actions (for instance a cop not investigating a friend who turns out to be scum because they trust them outside of the game). you both need to take a step back and look at this more analytically and all three of you (including flores) need to put this behind you for the game to continue properly.

That is a very logical post strikewolf and I respect you for that.
You brought up some good points. I suppose me and Dazey have both been a tad extra sensitive lately, which may have caused us both to misunderstand some things and lash out at flores.
I apologize to flores; she has moved on and so will I. For her sake, the game's sake and everyone else’s. Also I know it totally seems this way- however I am not defending Dazey for ungame related reasons anymore- even though it may seem that way.
I like to meta game quite a bit- and in an early post- I mentioned how her behavior in this game is very different from her behavior in another game we are playing together. If you look at storytime- we have been voting each other all game long- early on in the game for lulz, and later more seriously.

I see no reason not to believe the town roleblocker claim at this point in the game. People voted for her- b/c of her color- (stupid reason). And some voted for her because they felt as though she posted a response to Victor’s post much too soon. These were pretty much the two main reasons behind her bandwagon. I had no issue with the pink, I rather liked it actually. She always post in pink! Just is not doing so now because of immense pressure from people in this game- and is quite sad about it And I knew I was the reason why she posted so quickly in response to Victor. I had told her to.
Thus from my perspective, I saw no scummy behavior from her. The bandwagon was much scummier, imo.

If she does turn up to be mafia.. woe is me I suppose, but I have no evidence against her. Thus I will defend those whom I have no evidence again, not just Dazey.
My point is- I was not defending her for friendship reasons- it is the way I am playing the game. You can analyze that strategy however you like.

I have also analyzed sax…lad’s behavior in two games as well.

I also do not feel that herk is mafia. Very eager and funny townie from my perspective. And I rather enjoy some of his post

Have you read the last few pages? Don't blame you if you didn't it's been pretty crazy. Heads-up however, you might want to read the large pink text above your post on this page.

If you could get ahold of daze and tell her she should check the thread that'd be good.

Who is flow520 replacing, AoG?

I'm replacing Mandy.

VioIet wrote:My point is- I was not defending her for friendship reasons- it is the way I am playing the game. You can analyze that strategy however you like.

most ppl til now have discarded the idea of "vio+daze=newbie scum team" on the light of their IRL friendship, now if she admit to not have defended her because of friendship, does this theory still hold water?