--Andy
Moderator: Cartographers
go on and read. 44 pages is quite a lot of readingAndyDufresne wrote:Jeez, I'm around. Can I catch up and read some posts first?
--Andy

1. i don't have bananasyeti_c wrote:DiM - there's no way that this will get anywhere close to Final Forge without
a) Andy
b) Small map
c) XML
So I propose.
a) Send Banana's
b) Create Small Map
c) Ask me to make the XML... however I'd like to get some confirmation from Andy that this map has a chance before I do it again!!!
I've always liked this map and there are a hell of a lot of plus points to it... but I think perhaps it might be better off if we wait for the new XML features to be implemented - that way it could start a whole new genre of maps "Resource Maps" or the like.
C.
so how's the reading going?AndyDufresne wrote:Jeez, I'm around. Can I catch up and read some posts first?
--Andy
you're here to tell me if this map is ok. it has been sitting around for ages without any feedback and in my opinion the foundry foreman and the assistant should have said something like "hay i think the map is ready for a thorough examination, please post small large and xml" or "your map is crap so many pages of utter garbage. stop working on it immediatelly"AndyDufresne wrote: Now... I've forgot why am I here?
--Andy
you've had around 15 posts on this thread. it's not a small amount but not a big one either. but i haven't complained about you, i've complained about andy. not a single post in 44 pages seems rather odd. he usually posts in all the map threads and i'm just curious why he didn't in this one. he says he map never appealed to him. that's not an excuse he's been posting in lots of maps he does not like.KEYOGI wrote:Sorry if I haven't given you enough feedback DiM, but I feel I've contributed all I can.
i think yeti_c responded perfectly.yeti_c wrote:And you know that because you've seen the image with co-ordinates on it?Wisse wrote:here is your feedbak:
there isn't enough room for the armys anymore
C.




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</map>it's still slightly confusing to me, but after I play a few rounds that should go away. it'll just take longer to take a turn.DiM wrote:so i guess nobody has any suggestions.
yeti_c has started work on the xml. he will finish it on monday. i tried to finish what he started but i don't quite get it. maybe i'll try again tomorrow if i have time.
it's normal to be a bit confusing at first. it's a new concept. but it is really easy you just need to take some turns and after that it will be like you've always played it.edbeard wrote:it's still slightly confusing to me, but after I play a few rounds that should go away. it'll just take longer to take a turn.DiM wrote:so i guess nobody has any suggestions.
yeti_c has started work on the xml. he will finish it on monday. i tried to finish what he started but i don't quite get it. maybe i'll try again tomorrow if i have time.
I can't see anything that needs changing.
Soz - Maybe I didn't comment the code enough...DiM wrote:so i guess nobody has any suggestions.
yeti_c has started work on the xml. he will finish it on monday. i tried to finish what he started but i don't quite get it. maybe i'll try again tomorrow if i have time.

thanks for the appreciationdolemite wrote:I just wanted to help support this map since I like the creative thought behind it, and it looks well-executed for the most part.
i have the transportation expression and i also explain what transportation means. i really really aim for a certain feeling here and feeling is all about details.edbeard wrote:I realize part of the fun is saying transporting all this stuff, but I think it might be better to just say
+1 for owning resource pair and local market
+2 for owning resource pair and foreign market (must also own ports on both continents)
or something to that effect.




