Soundman's First Mafia [End] Arsonist Wins!!

[TheGeneral2112]

Okay ... what do you want to talk about? I can am 100% certain that Rodion, Zimmah, Mob, Chap and I are town. I am willing to accept on the balance of probabilities that General is town. That leaves Edoc!

I am not sure of Rodion being town. I thought he was scum yesterday and didn't want to be killed so I called him town to see if I would survive. Whomever saved someone last night needs to out with their save if their save is FoS'd right now so that we can clear them. In fact, if your save wasn't Hippo or myself, please out with your save. The only person I can clear 100% is Hippo.

[Rodion]

Okay ... what do you want to talk about? I can am 100% certain that Rodion, Zimmah, Mob, Chap and I are town. I am willing to accept on the balance of probabilities that General is town. That leaves Edoc!

Well, if you can safely vouch for 5 people out of 7, then the game gets easy.

Lynch Edocsil, who claimed vengeful townie.

a) he is scum and we win
b) he is town, he kills General with his dying breath (vengeful kills someone when they are lynched) and we win

Does anyone have anything against that?

I'm assuming Hippo is a cop and got several innocents. With the godfather killed and no evidence of a serial killer, Hippo's results should be trusted unless a busdriver interfered with them.

[MoB Deadly]

That would make sense that Hippo wouldnt waste an investigation on General

vote edoc again

[soundman]

Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly -
Chapcrap -
Edocsil - Hippo, Mob - (L2)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[edocsil]

Okay ... what do you want to talk about? I can am 100% certain that Rodion, Zimmah, Mob, Chap and I are town. I am willing to accept on the balance of probabilities that General is town. That leaves Edoc!

Well, if you can safely vouch for 5 people out of 7, then the game gets easy.

Lynch Edocsil, who claimed vengeful townie.

a) he is scum and we win
b) he is town, he kills General with his dying breath (vengeful kills someone when they are lynched) and we win

Does anyone have anything against that?

I'm assuming Hippo is a cop and got several innocents. With the godfather killed and no evidence of a serial killer, Hippo's results should be trusted unless a busdriver interfered with them.

Well there is this little issue of I get to choose who I kill..... I even believe the kill is optional because of the word may. Anyhow I voted the other vengeful because his role didn't work like mine. FoS Mob as well for completely skimming over my claim yesterday, it was more or less the reason I was willing to be a part of the previous lynch.

If hippo is indeed a cop with a lot of innocent results then we have something to work on. If this is true the cat is out of the bag and you should show the whole town your evidence. Here is the Stick. If you hang me without claiming hippo I will kill you out of spite for a foolish town, a town that rushes ahead without considering all the facts. I don't care about wining if I am dead, that is no fun. It is also entirely possible that the last scum is a busdriver and not a goon, which means the whole thing is screwed anyhow. Between whatever has been stopping the kills and the investigations we should be able to figure this out without hanging the wrong guy (me).

[codierose]

in case i die tonight hipp is town confirmed by me
there you go
so whos next
mob
chap
skill

We know about skill and I know about mob and chap. I reckon you are scum. vote codie

ears burning from the dead hipp you fool lol

[thehippo8]

in case i die tonight hipp is town confirmed by me
there you go
so whos next
mob
chap
skill

We know about skill and I know about mob and chap. I reckon you are scum. vote codie

ears burning from the dead hipp you fool lol

Hehe ... blunder of the century ...

[thehippo8]

Okay ... what do you want to talk about? I can am 100% certain that Rodion, Zimmah, Mob, Chap and I are town. I am willing to accept on the balance of probabilities that General is town. That leaves Edoc!

Well, if you can safely vouch for 5 people out of 7, then the game gets easy.

Lynch Edocsil, who claimed vengeful townie.

a) he is scum and we win
b) he is town, he kills General with his dying breath (vengeful kills someone when they are lynched) and we win

Does anyone have anything against that?

I'm assuming Hippo is a cop and got several innocents. With the godfather killed and no evidence of a serial killer, Hippo's results should be trusted unless a busdriver interfered with them.

Well there is this little issue of I get to choose who I kill..... I even believe the kill is optional because of the word may. Anyhow I voted the other vengeful because his role didn't work like mine. FoS Mob as well for completely skimming over my claim yesterday, it was more or less the reason I was willing to be a part of the previous lynch.

If hippo is indeed a cop with a lot of innocent results then we have something to work on. If this is true the cat is out of the bag and you should show the whole town your evidence. Here is the Stick. If you hang me without claiming hippo I will kill you out of spite for a foolish town, a town that rushes ahead without considering all the facts. I don't care about wining if I am dead, that is no fun. It is also entirely possible that the last scum is a busdriver and not a goon, which means the whole thing is screwed anyhow. Between whatever has been stopping the kills and the investigations we should be able to figure this out without hanging the wrong guy (me).

Anyone believe this? Nice try edoc. I will claim if the town want me to ... but I reckon that's unnecessary. I am happy, however, if the town consensus is such to be the one to pull the stoold one more time. If that's what you want sing out, I'll unvote, you set up the L-1 and I'll hammer. I am convinced Edoc is our last mafia and I do not believe him to be a busdriver!

[TheGeneral2112]

Okay ... what do you want to talk about? I can am 100% certain that Rodion, Zimmah, Mob, Chap and I are town. I am willing to accept on the balance of probabilities that General is town. That leaves Edoc!

Well, if you can safely vouch for 5 people out of 7, then the game gets easy.

Lynch Edocsil, who claimed vengeful townie.

a) he is scum and we win
b) he is town, he kills General with his dying breath (vengeful kills someone when they are lynched) and we win

Does anyone have anything against that?

I'm assuming Hippo is a cop and got several innocents. With the godfather killed and no evidence of a serial killer, Hippo's results should be trusted unless a busdriver interfered with them.

Are you fucking kidding me? I am not okay with this. Not only am I the ONE person that is CLEARLY town (I led a lynch on 2/3 mafia and got the gf lynched on D1) BUT there is no reason that anyone should FoS me. Rodion, you aren't clear, and I mentioned as much in my earlier post.

On another note, Hippo, please claim with a list of your investigations and results. Thanks!

VOTE EDOC

[TheGeneral2112]

Also, just in case, hippo, DO NOT hammer on this. You are confirmed town.

[chapcrap]

I agree with everything that General said. Hippo claim cop or whatever you are and tell us the results that you got. I really, really doubt that General is scum. Third party? Perhaps, but I think town.

Edocsil could have easily made the counterclaim to make it look like he was town when his mafia buddy got lynched. He didn't claim until very late in the process. And I also don't know about Rodion.

[zimmah]

Let's try not to rush this day for a while (Edoc is already L-2 within 1 hour of the start of the day).

I've been seeing several people vouching for other people and I'm kind of at a loss here.

If I recall correctly, Zimmah vouched for Hippo. Then General vouched for Hippo and I. Now Hippo vouches for MoB and Chap.

I'm not looking for a massclaim with 7 players left, but I think this vouching thing needs to be clarified regarding whether you "think" this person is town ("played like town" or "no scumtells") or whether you are "sure" (process of elimination based by your own power roles, such as cop, mason, tracker etc).

Without having to claim, can all those "vouchers" explain to which degree they consider the innocence of their "vouchees" certain? Also point out in case I've missed any other vouching.

That said, if all the vouching that has been going on is held to a degree of near certainty, then the choice will indeed fall between General and Edocsil and I'll have to reread in order to make my choice.

I know what I am talking about and can vouch for what I am saying.

my vouch for hippo is pretty sure.

[TheGeneral2112]

Let's try not to rush this day for a while (Edoc is already L-2 within 1 hour of the start of the day).

I've been seeing several people vouching for other people and I'm kind of at a loss here.

If I recall correctly, Zimmah vouched for Hippo. Then General vouched for Hippo and I. Now Hippo vouches for MoB and Chap.

I'm not looking for a massclaim with 7 players left, but I think this vouching thing needs to be clarified regarding whether you "think" this person is town ("played like town" or "no scumtells") or whether you are "sure" (process of elimination based by your own power roles, such as cop, mason, tracker etc).

Without having to claim, can all those "vouchers" explain to which degree they consider the innocence of their "vouchees" certain? Also point out in case I've missed any other vouching.

That said, if all the vouching that has been going on is held to a degree of near certainty, then the choice will indeed fall between General and Edocsil and I'll have to reread in order to make my choice.

I know what I am talking about and can vouch for what I am saying.

my vouch for hippo is pretty sure.

Nobody needs to vouch for Hippo. Hippo is confirmed doc's save.

[MoB Deadly]

Which night was he successfully saved? I recall him being targeted for a save on Night 1. However a doc targeting for a save hardly clears them as a doc would have no info. If there was a successful save then nevermind.

Doesn't matter because I forgot about Zimmah having info clearing Hippo and vice versa. Masoned cop? Thats a bit powerful though don't you think?

[zimmah]

Which night was he successfully saved? I recall him being targeted for a save on Night 1. However a doc targeting for a save hardly clears them as a doc would have no info. If there was a successful save then nevermind.

Doesn't matter because I forgot about Zimmah having info clearing Hippo and vice versa. Masoned cop? Thats a bit powerful though don't you think?

he's not masoned with me, but i know for sure he's town. i don't think i need to state a reason at this point in the game.

[MoB Deadly]

Nope, thats good enough for me

[Rodion]

Which night was he successfully saved? I recall him being targeted for a save on Night 1. However a doc targeting for a save hardly clears them as a doc would have no info. If there was a successful save then nevermind.

I think this was when Codie said on D4 that Hippo was town (after mafia's kill failed on N3), leading to the likely conclusion that Hippo was targeted for a mafia night kill (and protected by Codie) and thus must be town.

[edocsil]

I am not kidding. I will ruin this game for whichever one of you I feel like. Put the cards out on the table, there is something you are missing. I am town and at this point none of you are working with me. You have all you need to easily win as town and you are simply pissing it all away.

You say I cced late, so should I have put everything on the line when that was the only reason I had to disbelieve the claim? It would have been foolish to risk it all on a role like mine. It isn't like a cop or a doc where there is only ever one, barring sanity issues.

[MoB Deadly]

Edoc who do you expect us to vote for? We need to find out if Hippos evidence is credible or not. Your role is actually a GOOD fakeclaim for mafia because you have no night actions you have to commit to, and the town is afraid to lynch you for fear you may kill them.

And you are using that fear in the first two sentences.

If you have any better ideas for a lynch im all ears but we have Zimmah vouching for Hippo, and Hippo vouching for everyone but you and General.

And General has obviously been acting pro town in this game.

[edocsil]

Edoc who do you expect us to vote for? We need to find out if Hippos evidence is credible or not. Your role is actually a GOOD fakeclaim for mafia because you have no night actions you have to commit to, and the town is afraid to lynch you for fear you may kill them.

And you are using that fear in the first two sentences.

If you have any better ideas for a lynch im all ears but we have Zimmah vouching for Hippo, and Hippo vouching for everyone but you and General.

And General has obviously been acting pro town in this game.

Vouching for the others is the folly. I am willing to bet it all that this a busdriver. General may be scum and fooling us, but you are making the assumption that the has not been any mistakes made by the (unclaimed) cop. If I am hanged I am fully capable of damning any who I desire, and you are rushing ahead without my consent.

[MoB Deadly]

Well there are only 2 ways to confirm this bus driver theory
1) Lynch you and if the games not over there's prob a bus driver
2) Lynch of of the innocents to prove Hippo is "sane" and a bus didnt affect.

Even if we take the number 2 route, how do we know which investigations are true and which aren't?

We need to lynch you to prove the possibility of a bus driver

[edocsil]

I am up to something. I don't care what you think is the correct course of action at the moment, but please no one lynch until I post again, I am working on something and would be put out if I was interrupted.

[thehippo8]

Okay ... so decision time ... unvote ... so you can alll put Edoc on L1 and I will hammer.

I don't accept what Edoc is saying and frankly am unhappy that he is loosing the plot. Yes, it'sonly a game ... but it's a game town wants to win. Edoc says that he will "take out" anyone he wants. That is a threat to town in anyone's book.

So I will sit back and wait.

[edocsil]

Okay ... so decision time ... unvote ... so you can alll put Edoc on L1 and I will hammer.

I don't accept what Edoc is saying and frankly am unhappy that he is loosing the plot. Yes, it'sonly a game ... but it's a game town wants to win. Edoc says that he will "take out" anyone he wants. That is a threat to town in anyone's book.

So I will sit back and wait.

I dislike fools. Did you even read my last post?

[thehippo8]

Okay ... so decision time ... unvote ... so you can alll put Edoc on L1 and I will hammer.

I don't accept what Edoc is saying and frankly am unhappy that he is loosing the plot. Yes, it'sonly a game ... but it's a game town wants to win. Edoc says that he will "take out" anyone he wants. That is a threat to town in anyone's book.

So I will sit back and wait.

I dislike fools. Did you even read my last post?

Yep ... that's why I said what I did. Are you calling me a fool?