Conquer Club

dazza2008 wrote:Good game.

zimmah wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:Good game.

Stil two kills, i really dont understand how thats possible.

edocsil wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote since it was just a random day 1 vote. I do give this for you to think about and discuss on a serious matter, but the last line is very important.

We have 3 players who's game numbers equal 41. Who they are, I cannot say by rule, but one of them will surely cause a death each day by choosing to make a dead dude. The numbers are not all even or all odd, but the person surely is odd. Heed my advice town because once I state this, I cannot interpret any answers.

I made a little program that calculated every possible combination of player numbers totaling 41. There are 46 unique combinations (hippo's method had duplicates) Here they are for reference as well as the player list I used.

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22	18	1
22	17	2
22	16	3
22	15	4
22	14	5
22	13	6
22	12	7
22	11	8
22	10	9
21	18	2
21	17	3
21	16	4
21	15	5
21	14	6
21	13	7
21	12	8
21	11	9
20	18	3
20	17	4
20	16	5
20	15	6
20	14	7
20	13	8
20	12	9
20	11	10
19	18	4
19	17	5
19	16	6
19	15	7
19	14	8
19	13	9
19	12	10
18	17	6
18	16	7
18	15	8
18	14	9
18	13	10
18	12	11
17	16	8
17	15	9
17	14	10
17	13	11
16	15	10
16	14	11
16	13	12
15	14	12

And here is my list, as they are on the first page, counting replacements

1	edocsil
2	Nag
3	Victor
4	PCM
5	Fox
6	LSU Tiger
7	Irish Tiger
8	Trinicardinal
9	terrafutan
10	chapcrap
11	skillfusion
12	WildWill
13	dazza
14	conzocool
15	mob deadly
16	SG7
17	JenBroness
18	Zimmah
19	ShaggyDan
20	DazeRazer
21	thehippo
22	eldario

At the moment it does us little, besides indication that low player numbers are statistically less likely to be scum then then high numbers. Even this assumption is invalid if the roles were assigned in a non random fashion. If we find out that player (pick a number randomly here) 17 was scum that would leave us with 18 possible scum but if we know that player 17 was scum and player 4 was scum, following the pattern would explicitly claim that player 20 was the 3rd scum member.

The major caveat to this is the whole thing is completely useless if there are more then 3 scum, but it still will work if there are multiple factions and we can distinguish between scum. Factions are a possibility, otherwise we could easily have a 10 day game with only one kill a night. It could go on even longer if we cannot come to conclusions as to who to lynch.

1. zimmah leads an incorrect lynch on sens.
2. I ask him why sens and he never really gave a good answer.
3. Sens gets lycnhed.
4. During the night there are 2 kills.
5. All of a sudden, zimmah has a vague reason why he decided sens was SK.

MoB Deadly wrote:Didnt we lynch LSU because he was lying?

chapcrap wrote:So, what happened?

1. zimmah leads an incorrect lynch on sens.
2. I ask him why sens and he never really gave a good answer.
3. Sens gets lycnhed.
4. During the night there are 2 kills.
5. All of a sudden, zimmah has a vague reason why he decided sens was SK.

It's just ridiculous that he couldn't give his reasoning yesterday. And now his reasoning is because of that number chart post that basically no one understood and we all pretty much decided was wrong anyway. Not only does he say that was his reasoning, he doesn't even go into the thought process. It's just some vague attempt. I don't like it and I don't buy it.

unvote vote zimmah

chapcrap wrote:So, what happened?

1. zimmah leads an incorrect lynch on sens.
2. I ask him why sens and he never really gave a good answer.
3. Sens gets lycnhed.
4. During the night there are 2 kills.
5. All of a sudden, zimmah has a vague reason why he decided sens was SK.

It's just ridiculous that he couldn't give his reasoning yesterday. And now his reasoning is because of that number chart post that basically no one understood and we all pretty much decided was wrong anyway. Not only does he say that was his reasoning, he doesn't even go into the thought process. It's just some vague attempt. I don't like it and I don't buy it.

unvote vote zimmah

zimmah wrote:

chapcrap wrote:So, what happened?

1. zimmah leads an incorrect lynch on sens.
2. I ask him why sens and he never really gave a good answer.
3. Sens gets lycnhed.
4. During the night there are 2 kills.
5. All of a sudden, zimmah has a vague reason why he decided sens was SK.

It's just ridiculous that he couldn't give his reasoning yesterday. And now his reasoning is because of that number chart post that basically no one understood and we all pretty much decided was wrong anyway. Not only does he say that was his reasoning, he doesn't even go into the thought process. It's just some vague attempt. I don't like it and I don't buy it.

unvote vote zimmah

i'd like to give more reasons but i'm not even allowed to, remember, the vt rule everyone seems to miss.

chapcrap wrote:

zimmah wrote:

chapcrap wrote:So, what happened?

1. zimmah leads an incorrect lynch on sens.
2. I ask him why sens and he never really gave a good answer.
3. Sens gets lycnhed.
4. During the night there are 2 kills.
5. All of a sudden, zimmah has a vague reason why he decided sens was SK.

It's just ridiculous that he couldn't give his reasoning yesterday. And now his reasoning is because of that number chart post that basically no one understood and we all pretty much decided was wrong anyway. Not only does he say that was his reasoning, he doesn't even go into the thought process. It's just some vague attempt. I don't like it and I don't buy it.

unvote vote zimmah

i'd like to give more reasons but i'm not even allowed to, remember, the vt rule everyone seems to miss.

You now soft claim some other knowledge, but said you led the lynch because of the numbers? Contradict much?

FoxMists wrote:

I get busy for a couple days and wtf!?

I don't know what to make of Hippo yet. Rolling eyes isn't really communicating with the group much. It's not terribly helpful.

FoxMists wrote:Also this game = x1000

Eldario wrote:I kind of feel like Chap and Mob is holding each others back
I also tends to agree with Fox, but how knows?

I have two scenario I find reasonable,

1. Mob and Chap are Mafia - the one I personally think are the most likely
2. Fox and Zimmah are Mafia - possible but kind of a longshot