Osama bin Laden is dead

[patches70]

@saxi: personally i'm hoping this will become a reason for the u.s. to scale down operations in the middle east, but i might be too optimistic.

With respect, I think this is just the oomph Obama needs to to keep the bombs falling on the heads of Libyan children, the day after he had 6 of them killed and people were starting to criticize. Now the critics will all be too busy singing the Star Spangled Banner and measuring their dicks to pay attention to the Maghreb.

Wrong nation.

Your reading comprehension needs a bit of work there my_thaiguy......

[Royal Panda]

I won't believe it until I see the long form death certificate

[MeDeFe]

Osama bin laden is dead, and the islamic fundamentalists have a new martyr. Yay for them.

Why didn't they catch him alive and bring him to trial, I wonder?

Something doesn't add up here.

Probably because he knows too much. Give him a trial and he'll be able to spill a lot of dirty secrets of a dozen secret US intelligence agencies. Can't let that happen.

[CreepersWiener]

[Qwert]

they would not lie about this. bin laden still releases videos from time to time, and obama/the military wouldn't risk being exposed as liars.

US goverment and american military talk lies !? -------------------------------------

I'm pretty sure the guv'ment controls whether or not the public sees the videos.

Anyway, if I see the body, I guess I'll be more likely to believe it.

yep, but they dont show little green guys from roswell, why you think that they will open mortuary and give free acess to reporters to see OBL body?--------------------------------

No, the police state is taking shape from a nation attempting to hold itself together in the face of multicultural balkanization. The terrorist attacks were only a convenient excuse to accelerate the process, not the true cause

balkanization?
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Why didn't they catch him alive and bring him to trial, I wonder?

Something doesn't add up here.

Well everybody know that US whas ally with Osama bin laden in Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, who know how many secret he know. Who knows maybe US inteligence far before knows where its Obama hiding, but they waith right moment to act, with direct orders to take hem , but take hem dead,not alive. They need to distract people from libya, syria,Iraq, domestic problems.
Now US,need to find new nemesis, because show must go one.

[natty dread]

USA sends a message @ the world:

"We can do whatever we want, if you do stuff we don't like we can just find you and kill you without a trial."


Scary world we live in.

[TheSaxlad]

A US official quoted by Associated Press news agency said Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea, although this has not been confirmed.

Thats the scariest part. Kill Him and dump his body in the ocean. These sceptics may be right an all.


[quote="BBC]US officials said Bin Laden was shot in the head after resisting.[/quote]

So they captured him alive, one of the SEAL's got angry, shot him and its all a big cover-up by the Navy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256676

Osama bin laden is dead, and the islamic fundamentalists have a new martyr. Yay for them.

Why didn't they catch him alive and bring him to trial, I wonder?

Something doesn't add up here.

Probably because he knows too much. Give him a trial and he'll be able to spill a lot of dirty secrets of a dozen secret US intelligence agencies. Can't let that happen.

WIKILEAKS! Osama must have had a blanket somewhere in case he died. The Americans could be in a lot of shit.

[Crazyirishman]

Even if he is dead, I don't think this is a major victory. he's been hiding in the mountains for the last decade which probably means his role in al-qaeda was probably minimized and someone else stepped up and filled in his spot. We killed a terrorist not terrorism and the only way to get rid of terrorism is improving the living conditions of the people that al-qaeda and other terrorist groups recruit for their cause.

[Royal Panda]

Osama finally erred and decided to wear that British Army uniform he'd had lying around for fancy dress.

[lord voldemort]

10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, $1,188,263,000,000 later we managed to kill one man. Worth it?

[Royal Panda]

10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, $1,188,263,000,000 later we managed to kill one man. Worth it?

It is classic American behaviour showing signs like:
"Obama 1 - 0 Osama"

If anyone can truly call this a 'victory' then they have no respect for those figures you mentioned above.

[PLAYER57832]

Osama bin laden is dead, and the islamic fundamentalists have a new martyr. Yay for them.

Why didn't they catch him alive and bring him to trial, I wonder?

Something doesn't add up here.

Probably because he knows too much. Give him a trial and he'll be able to spill a lot of dirty secrets of a dozen secret US intelligence agencies. Can't let that happen.

I can name a few other reasons.

The most important would be that if he lived, he would be a constant rallying point for supporters trying to free him.. or, more likely to take out everyone holding him, including martyring Osama.

Then, there might, despite all evidence, be a chance he would go free. Any trial would be considered just a show by his supporters, would waste a good deal of money.

Even transporting him would put everyone involved at extreme risk. Bases, etc are already geared up for retaliatory attacks, but just imagine if he were being held. These are people who think nothing of suiciding for far lesser causes.

All in all, this is the cheapest and, I have to say, best, way to go.

[shieldgenerator7]

hopefully now the US will pull out of Iraq

[Night Strike]

Even if he is dead, I don't think this is a major victory. he's been hiding in the mountains for the last decade which probably means his role in al-qaeda was probably minimized and someone else stepped up and filled in his spot. We killed a terrorist not terrorism and the only way to get rid of terrorism is improving the living conditions of the people that al-qaeda and other terrorist groups recruit for their cause.

He obviously wasn't in a mountain cave, which means he could have had more influence than most realize.

A US official quoted by Associated Press news agency said Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea, although this has not been confirmed.

Thats the scariest part. Kill Him and dump his body in the ocean. These sceptics may be right an all.

Muslim tradition requires the body to be buried within 24 hours, which is why they acted quickly. He was buried at sea in order for people to not know his exact burial location and turn it into a monument.

Osama bin laden is dead, and the islamic fundamentalists have a new martyr. Yay for them.

It's called war. If you're too scared to take out the enemy's leader simply because the enemy will get mad, then you've already lost.

[Qwert]

""Muslim tradition requires the body to be buried within 24 hours, which is why they acted quickly.""
Who will say,that American will be so gentle with Osama, to be burried with muslim tradition, its more look like propaganda. Its so strange,that nobody from big news houses, dont get permision to picture these, and like hepend with Ce Gueara, where you had pictures from these incident, here you need to hide all evidence from Osama liquidation( i doubt that they fight) from world. You finaly achive something, and if you want to people belive,you hide evidence?
Its funny,that Pakistan army not aware of US intervention.

[isaiah40]

Considering all the lies the US government have told us, it is hard to believe it. So I want pics or it didn't happen!!

[saxitoxin]

Lord voldemort, natty, pander88uk and Qwert are absolutely right - this is all typical demonstrations of Yankee militarism. The new war criminal - Obama - had to shore up his flagging support among warmongers by demonstrating his masculinity. He tried to do that by bombing Libyan children into smithereens but it backfired on him.

I notice that, within hours of this announcement the Yankee State Department issued a travel warning to all Americans to stay home and not to travel abroad until further notice (here's a hint - the "notice" will never come). The fortress of El Diablo is closing its gates and raising the drawbridge over their latest bumbling buffoonery.

[saxitoxin]

LOL - Guardian reporting Bin Laden death photos are faked.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... photo-fake

This is your lap-dog, state-run media at work, NATO rubes. Slavishly regurgitating the official line, not bothering to check or investigate. And you still believe the myth of your popular democracy reinforced by a free press, LOL.

[AndyDufresne]

When I heard about this late last night (Via a text message, ha), I immediately thought of our Off Topic Forums, and was wondering if it was exploding or not. Haha.

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Related to all of this, was the underlying thread of how news spreads around the world and to people. I know I received my news from two friends via text message, which later lead me to text another friend and let them know. I can only imagine Twitter and Facebook and E-mail and Online Forums helping spread the news fast. It's an interesting digital age.


--Andy

[targetman377]

When I heard about this late last night (Via a text message, ha), I immediately thought of our Off Topic Forums, and was wondering if it was exploding or not. Haha.

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Related to all of this, was the underlying thread of how news spreads around the world and to people. I know I received my news from two friends via text message, which later lead me to text another friend and let them know. I can only imagine Twitter and Facebook and E-mail and Online Forums helping spread the news fast. It's an interesting digital age.


--Andy

[Commander9]

I sense there will be trouble because of this. In my opinion, if at least most of the reported things are true (which is debatable), US Government fucked up big time. Since he's dead, now we will never learn who was behind him: who was supporting and sponsoring him, who was protecting him (besides the obvious Paki's), was he just a small pawn in a big game. US government got 0 intel from this - all this extremely valuable information lost just because some idiots decide that it's better to kill him. All of this most likely will just lead him becoming a martyr...

Does anyone truly expect this to have any positive practical results? If anything, expect a new wave of terrorism suddenly bursting out. Well done, well done

[gradybridges]

I sense there will be trouble because of this. In my opinion, if at least most of the reported things are true (which is debatable), US Government fucked up big time. Since he's dead, now we will never learn who was behind him: who was supporting and sponsoring him, who was protecting him (besides the obvious Paki's), was he just a small pawn in a big game. US government got 0 intel from this - all this extremely valuable information lost just because some idiots decide that it's better to kill him. All of this most likely will just lead him becoming a martyr...

Does anyone truly expect this to have any positive practical results? If anything, expect a new wave of terrorism suddenly bursting out. Well done, well done

Capturing him would be worse. He wouldn't talk, and his followers would do all sorts of crazy shit to get him back like killings and hostages.

I'm sure the US took back a ton of intel from his compound. Any writings, laptops-we got something.

2 shots to the head then dumping him in the ocean is perfect.

[spurgistan]

I sense there will be trouble because of this. In my opinion, if at least most of the reported things are true (which is debatable), US Government fucked up big time. Since he's dead, now we will never learn who was behind him: who was supporting and sponsoring him, who was protecting him (besides the obvious Paki's), was he just a small pawn in a big game. US government got 0 intel from this - all this extremely valuable information lost just because some idiots decide that it's better to kill him. All of this most likely will just lead him becoming a martyr...

Does anyone truly expect this to have any positive practical results? If anything, expect a new wave of terrorism suddenly bursting out. Well done, well done

1. Based on where he was hiding (50 miles from Islamabad) it doesn't take too much headwork to consider who his likely sponsors were. This is a way bigger crock of shit to step into than his death.
2. Given al-Qaeda's extremely compartmentalized organization / his status holed up in isolation, it's doubtful he had all that much useful information.
3. It's possible that grabbing him wasn't an option?
4. Pretty sure you're not supposed to say Pakis.

[Commander9]

Capturing him would be worse. He wouldn't talk, and his followers would do all sorts of crazy shit to get him back like killings and hostages.

I'm sure the US took back a ton of intel from his compound. Any writings, laptops-we got something.

2 shots to the head then dumping him in the ocean is perfect.

Please tell me you are joking...

1. Based on where he was hiding (50 miles from Islamabad) it doesn't take too much headwork to consider who his likely sponsors were. This is a way bigger crock of shit to step into than his death.
2. Given al-Qaeda's extremely compartmentalized organization / his status holed up in isolation, it's doubtful he had all that much useful information.
3. It's possible that grabbing him wasn't an option?
4. Pretty sure you're not supposed to say Pakis.

1. I said aside from the obvious ones. You really think it was just the Pakistan government?
2. This is debatable, but I would say he had. Furthermore, he could have given us the information about the initial attacks and information on USA government - something that obviously could hurt them.
3. It's always a possible solution... (you can even prevent suicide if you execute it well enough). Killing was the easiest solution and I didn't say grabbing him would have been easy, but it would have been a much better one.

[Royal Panda]

I sense there will be trouble because of this. In my opinion, if at least most of the reported things are true (which is debatable), US Government fucked up big time. Since he's dead, now we will never learn who was behind him: who was supporting and sponsoring him, who was protecting him (besides the obvious Paki's), was he just a small pawn in a big game. US government got 0 intel from this - all this extremely valuable information lost just because some idiots decide that it's better to kill him. All of this most likely will just lead him becoming a martyr...

Does anyone truly expect this to have any positive practical results? If anything, expect a new wave of terrorism suddenly bursting out. Well done, well done

1. Based on where he was hiding (50 miles from Islamabad) it doesn't take too much headwork to consider who his likely sponsors were. This is a way bigger crock of shit to step into than his death.
2. Given al-Qaeda's extremely compartmentalized organization / his status holed up in isolation, it's doubtful he had all that much useful information.
3. It's possible that grabbing him wasn't an option?
4. Pretty sure you're not supposed to say Pakis.

I can't see the big deal with calling a Pakistani a Paki.
It's just the same as calling an Australian an Aussie, a Scotsman a Scot or a Frenchman a C*nt.