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Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:12 am
by tml
Here's mine... Hopefully I don't forget the password...
hltHQIceGY2c9Z8GhJvq0mGb6OOKkqnx8iuH72+eCUfRQFCh68vWQjhcvMrRKdFy5
T5c0fd1ugkmzPhA8KyVKMq9h3IdHKi/wdAeFQ5sCP8===
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:36 am
by lalaland
A question... how is this helping us?
Isn't it likely, or at least possible, that our win conditions are all worded slightly differently?
Isn't it also possible that Rodion is mafia, somebody slipped and gave him their win condition, and it's been passed around to mafia?
I don't think that this is the best tactic, as it has a high probability of giving us both false positives and false negatives.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:07 am
by AdmiralGaal
Yeah I have no idea what this encryption thing is doing for us, can someone explain?
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:28 am
by Haggis_McMutton
lalaland wrote:A question... how is this helping us?
Isn't it likely, or at least possible, that our win conditions are all worded slightly differently?
Isn't it also possible that Rodion is mafia, somebody slipped and gave him their win condition, and it's been passed around to mafia?
I don't think that this is the best tactic, as it has a high probability of giving us both false positives and false negatives.
If we see that all of them are worded slightly different then we know it's useless and move on. The same thing for the Rodion thing.
Worst case scenario: we waste a bit of time
best case scenario: we catch some scum.
AdmiralGaal wrote:Yeah I have no idea what this encryption thing is doing for us, can someone explain?
The encryption is so that everyone has to post their win condition before anyone has to reveal it.
If I posted my win condition in plain sight, scum would obviously just copy it, this way they can't and will be forced to guess/not post it.(unless they figure it out by some other means of course).
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:57 am
by AdmiralGaal
Guess that makes sense.
YX1l6dIpIy5Dr2zyX+5n190rbXTfJgr369tlUjzL4ewPeD/wgzWh0lEax3yJTkfyr
OHoHjP+vsNsyDkT2mOAhw====
By the way: FOS Haggis, just because he pm'd his confirmation, which seems like is could be because he's in close with the moderator, idk, just a thought, there's someone else who pm-confirmed too, i just can't remember who
Aslo FOS: Rodion for asking everyone to quote their win condition, it's just weird, although i guess the maf wouldn't need to see who isn't maf, but it could be a cover up, again, idk
Lastly FOS: Metsfan because he promotes editing posts
So, we'll see how things turn out, but those are my thought so far.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:33 am
by lalaland
hmmm I still don't see this doing us a lot of good.
but here:
FycFN0U5EClwshMXx4YfUCh3e6Nt+2VvWISeqcAnGVUizHLDQfLaQQLjwPC2sYTgl
ex5YHEaCDr3G5o4L8dqBENSoB/XrD2mjjJN5VZpWYUNgYAQG5784NAQj6TcOynoFz
MNNOseH2MHx41BkhM33IrtVaeY+sZmy9jKLQ2dgM4rCT2witqNbjxnHUZ7/kUNCn7
wriRuq4hxLifMjzTP0gb7ny9mQpdW+2QaQK9wfT44vE5wYmzd5OSmmeyZE2D9kK1D
9HKV/rqszTBzuMclpR6J6P/ZF3YqCJgPlopdGyczZtx9+425xZmC88ABb5AO2ifCe
KrAEnVfhZWaNs53wHSmuwwBtzdXH8Y5uUWzqKqPRtKuY9asPMtq6k3gMRy6==
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:33 am
by /
A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:35 am
by lalaland
lalaland wrote:hmmm I still don't see this doing us a lot of good.
but here:
FycFN0U5EClwshMXx4YfUCh3e6Nt+2VvWISeqcAnGVUizHLDQfLaQQLjwPC2sYTgl
ex5YHEaCDr3G5o4L8dqBENSoB/XrD2mjjJN5VZpWYUNgYAQG5784NAQj6TcOynoFz
MNNOseH2MHx41BkhM33IrtVaeY+sZmy9jKLQ2dgM4rCT2witqNbjxnHUZ7/kUNCn7
wriRuq4hxLifMjzTP0gb7ny9mQpdW+2QaQK9wfT44vE5wYmzd5OSmmeyZE2D9kK1D
9HKV/rqszTBzuMclpR6J6P/ZF3YqCJgPlopdGyczZtx9+425xZmC88ABb5AO2ifCe
KrAEnVfhZWaNs53wHSmuwwBtzdXH8Y5uUWzqKqPRtKuY9asPMtq6k3gMRy6==
disregard this, this was the note i wrote to myself trying to figure out how this thing worked and it's not my win condition... haha
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:37 am
by lalaland
here
zVEG4pn0IxJe/8W0vOP8qMmQQciYyzvtCIt8RdN1md8YmErPFnbjAhOgO5uBkG1dG
7o4H+ygdV739M6zfo31KROGllZFELOU2yCxzWfLEqE03hJpXiUuVLrcwm7BcbRxTh
bHKzzjbcB0cO0YlMxjS53XhEdPI+cMjrou1IVAeIA69evMSEAPp7AQmdj/dB0f+kG
0ByZTpRkQDSKV+6H3ExTuRlCxhMyiwnai36OEqGcQZrS8Dmb46YT7iIRLHgZ7Ap/j
vfHr6VPu70JMur2HgT98DHRhMD0ZxQeNHeUuuT1sGsZqi5VJsHHCYQA9S/HvX/V8J
qAzTrX+6pNunSfZF4dWu/GCAL8AIA5Jx7J/NpxLataNVSN0QHwkTCzhIA4i==
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:39 am
by Haggis_McMutton
/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
You actually had me fooled for a minute.

Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 am
by jonty125
/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:43 am
by lalaland
jonty125 wrote:/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Umm Jonty? / isn't even in the game... FOS for skimming.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:46 am
by jonty125
lalaland wrote:jonty125 wrote:/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Umm Jonty? / isn't even in the game... FOS for skimming.
Oh
Here's my thingy ma bob
DIaBmzxHz0ccegkf73Cd6toOYCnT3PdPmKfmQXBSVAtqbLS282JgeMvogcN8CfpjI
KXIdEObVXkzNJdjq5QXvw=
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:25 am
by shieldgenerator7
lalaland wrote:jonty125 wrote:/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Umm Jonty? / isn't even in the game... FOS for skimming.
lshicastr
haha I forgot there's no rules, and got confused when Rodion PM'd me. I wonder what he's up to.
Anyway you'll all find me out eventually, so I'll just claim Mafia here and now. I'm Mafia. There. I said it. Now don't lynch me. Cuz it was a jokezel.

Seriously if Rodion is going to ask around for a win con then I'm just going to ask everyone "are you mafia?" and see what i get.
BTW, since there's no rules, who is me? I mean who got the shieldgenerator7 role? I find it funny, cause I got Edoc! And he hates me!

Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:59 am
by pancakemix
Code: IsjefD2nfuOdwnmN83hdT,sndHjdnAbvksVndsjEjsdbOhdaxNsjhcE
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:10 pm
by kwanton
I'm still kind of wary of this but here's mine
ylVCw07e8HH02Birt+D7U+yx7UoIA9NuaNIL4wA6+asVDNjZziWHmw/kTX9Q3r2ya
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dktMLWVaGIrY8gN5HBeg5UiJn8Z15joRpLHJnG4HCz13zQrjULMW7VNo8X8HITy2h
ww+hHlrQATZTsjHAwPWsxeMYmqLgtHXw3FVp9I5mkPoZ0xJgSstXQIdcloxO6KJKD
XVcMfT4PbNyZvglk21mJ17DE8rp9eK7pNlCY/ks1l8zJtxyDbg5+5Fv75V5k+fOqI
FR14unyUD9csJEdPw====
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:11 pm
by shieldgenerator7
You know this encoding thing is clever but it won't work anyway because once the mafia know what a town win con looks like, they can just edit their post and change what it said so it comes out to be the same town win con.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:14 pm
by Rodion
shieldgenerator7 wrote:You know this encoding thing is clever but it won't work anyway because once the mafia know what a town win con looks like, they can just edit their post and change what it said so it comes out to be the same town win con.
Then I'll quote them all before they can edit it.
If you don't trust me to be town, quote them all yourself too. Everyone can quote everyone just to be sure.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:16 pm
by Rodion
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Actually, i think i just figured out how to win this(with a little help from Rodion

)
he PM'd me asking to quote my win condition.
Don't tell anyone your exact win condition
the scum won't know exactly how the town's win condition is worded. Here's what we do:
Go here:
link.
type your win condition in there, pick a NON-TRIVIAL password and encrypt it. Post the encrypted win condition in here.
After everyone does this, we reveal the keys we used, and hopefully scum will be revealed.
I know, shitty tactic, but hey, you wanted no rules
here's mine: 3Nbz9et/lT1pqtiEuwV4kr6DlHooFsnK2eGRe2oqIcq4YhojqeMEY+EMl/Wvx51k8
jHsDIrHHYK1HEi5b8mErg====
Rodion wrote:Mine is considerably bigger:
vent+F/9c+H3wvJQtboryAoQ1UmCF9Pwfi3acfGeW+XNK+NpZG+dsR01HE6CXRT6i
tcrTyM6ta7VGfrZ7NvtCPoxSs5H6kD4QmD1PsEphpa67T5BgndL9Dx6CvMv4RpYWM
vqJZfh1C9BbJQByKLnJMBQn+1Z78y15A5BD/K+6z0rM8oxs5t/gdfmwpfWRI8A30w
W9sF19Cb12d9C61vu1rbsZdf6jq4L/mm9tSm2jyxx4VcHqEUvDdRTsFjrZbk4VsAM
qJ/BoJ82sKzL0g9fAlygmSATic/8H98TtygS8eE/f4n2CpF7rz/ZWVZI7NjZj9V9+
WqtHGwhHOS4k9fM1Q====
tml wrote:Here's mine... Hopefully I don't forget the password...
hltHQIceGY2c9Z8GhJvq0mGb6OOKkqnx8iuH72+eCUfRQFCh68vWQjhcvMrRKdFy5
T5c0fd1ugkmzPhA8KyVKMq9h3IdHKi/wdAeFQ5sCP8===
AdmiralGaal wrote:Guess that makes sense.
YX1l6dIpIy5Dr2zyX+5n190rbXTfJgr369tlUjzL4ewPeD/wgzWh0lEax3yJTkfyr
OHoHjP+vsNsyDkT2mOAhw====
By the way: FOS Haggis, just because he pm'd his confirmation, which seems like is could be because he's in close with the moderator, idk, just a thought, there's someone else who pm-confirmed too, i just can't remember who
Aslo FOS: Rodion for asking everyone to quote their win condition, it's just weird, although i guess the maf wouldn't need to see who isn't maf, but it could be a cover up, again, idk
Lastly FOS: Metsfan because he promotes editing posts
So, we'll see how things turn out, but those are my thought so far.
lalaland wrote:hmmm I still don't see this doing us a lot of good.
but here:
FycFN0U5EClwshMXx4YfUCh3e6Nt+2VvWISeqcAnGVUizHLDQfLaQQLjwPC2sYTgl
ex5YHEaCDr3G5o4L8dqBENSoB/XrD2mjjJN5VZpWYUNgYAQG5784NAQj6TcOynoFz
MNNOseH2MHx41BkhM33IrtVaeY+sZmy9jKLQ2dgM4rCT2witqNbjxnHUZ7/kUNCn7
wriRuq4hxLifMjzTP0gb7ny9mQpdW+2QaQK9wfT44vE5wYmzd5OSmmeyZE2D9kK1D
9HKV/rqszTBzuMclpR6J6P/ZF3YqCJgPlopdGyczZtx9+425xZmC88ABb5AO2ifCe
KrAEnVfhZWaNs53wHSmuwwBtzdXH8Y5uUWzqKqPRtKuY9asPMtq6k3gMRy6==
lalaland wrote:here
zVEG4pn0IxJe/8W0vOP8qMmQQciYyzvtCIt8RdN1md8YmErPFnbjAhOgO5uBkG1dG
7o4H+ygdV739M6zfo31KROGllZFELOU2yCxzWfLEqE03hJpXiUuVLrcwm7BcbRxTh
bHKzzjbcB0cO0YlMxjS53XhEdPI+cMjrou1IVAeIA69evMSEAPp7AQmdj/dB0f+kG
0ByZTpRkQDSKV+6H3ExTuRlCxhMyiwnai36OEqGcQZrS8Dmb46YT7iIRLHgZ7Ap/j
vfHr6VPu70JMur2HgT98DHRhMD0ZxQeNHeUuuT1sGsZqi5VJsHHCYQA9S/HvX/V8J
qAzTrX+6pNunSfZF4dWu/GCAL8AIA5Jx7J/NpxLataNVSN0QHwkTCzhIA4i==
jonty125 wrote:lalaland wrote:jonty125 wrote:/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Umm Jonty? / isn't even in the game... FOS for skimming.
Oh
Here's my thingy ma bob
DIaBmzxHz0ccegkf73Cd6toOYCnT3PdPmKfmQXBSVAtqbLS282JgeMvogcN8CfpjI
KXIdEObVXkzNJdjq5QXvw=
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:21 pm
by lalaland
also, we can tell if somebody has edited their post, and when they edited. And if their post is edited, then that's a problem, but i don't think we necessarily have to quote everything.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:25 pm
by /
lalaland wrote:jonty125 wrote:/ wrote:A brilliant plan, it's a shame you aren't town. It's time to claim, my role is Day Cop and by a stroke of luck the first person I investigated: Haggis_McMutton came up mafia
unvote vote haggis
oh and my code is 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100111 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01100100 01110101 01101000 00100001
I aren't going to start a bandwagon here as what happens if you're a lyncher and Haggis is the lynchee
Vote Rodion for trying to make me quote my win condition.
Umm Jonty? / isn't even in the game... FOS for skimming.
Not yet, but.... Hey Fircoal! you can edit posts right? go to the front page and put me in, I can help!

Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:40 pm
by Rodion
shieldgenerator7 wrote:BTW, since there's no rules, who is me? I mean who got the shieldgenerator7 role? I find it funny, cause I got Edoc! And he hates me!

What makes you so certain there is a Shieldgenerator7 role?
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:49 pm
by AdmiralGaal
pancakemix wrote:Code: IsjefD2nfuOdwnmN83hdT,sndHjdnAbvksVndsjEjsdbOhdaxNsjhcE
that is completely fake, nothing like the others, you were just banging on your keyboard,
vote pancakemix for now
I may switch it to rodion eventually though, because I think he could have had this entire thing planned from the start. Suppose he is mafia, and during the night, he made up a win condition so he could tell ALL the mafia to encrypt the exact same win condition. So if we decrypt these, and there are none that claim as mafia, then we should look at rodion. Then again, if someone did encrypt a mafian win condition, they would never let anyone decrypt it, so someone will have to be lying somewhere, SO CONFUSING lol, anyway, thats why I voted pancake, cuz he faked it all, though it may have just been for fun
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:53 pm
by Rodion
Pancake is not part of the game.
Re: Mafia Mafia [Day 1] *Forget the rules!*
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:53 pm
by Rodion
Rodion wrote:Pancake is not part of the game.
I mean the player. There can be a Pancake role.